It really adds context to the not good enough note. I bet this all started when she failed and this was all her revenge.
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I wonder if she had the handover sheet from that shift under her bed. After what we know about her now I doubt it was a accident
I’m only just catching up. Really want to start reading the transcripts but with work at the moment I’m just not getting the time!
I can’t (well I can but you know) believe what’s coming out about what she previously did. I’m glad this is being reported as I hope none of the jury members started feeling a type of way about their verdicts after the truthers were all over. I imagine it would be natural for them, more than most to start having that tiny doubt in their minds. I hope they’re following the enquiry closely and feel much better that they made the right decision on those guilt verdicts.
I have no idea how anyone could still think she was guilty after this. They can’t even go down the “incompetence” route either because that wasn’t even her defence…
I can’t (well I can but you know) believe what’s coming out about what she previously did. I’m glad this is being reported as I hope none of the jury members started feeling a type of way about their verdicts after the truthers were all over. I imagine it would be natural for them, more than most to start having that tiny doubt in their minds. I hope they’re following the enquiry closely and feel much better that they made the right decision on those guilt verdicts.
I have no idea how anyone could still think she was guilty after this. They can’t even go down the “incompetence” route either because that wasn’t even her defence…
I went straight to the summary of nurses statements. It’s overwhelmingly positive relationship wise apart from between NNU and maternity. Many claim how busy and understaffed they were but that’s not surprising. Many also have positive things to say about Eirian Powell, just a few more in addition to those earlier this week that claim she had favourites.
Janet Cox is the only one they read out direct comments about Letby being innocent.
Some more remarks about odd behaviour from Letby.
Janet Cox is the only one they read out direct comments about Letby being innocent.
Some more remarks about odd behaviour from Letby.
How the duck weren't these incidents on her record and checked before she joined COCH? Or were they and it wasn't considered in the decision making. Such a serious error should have meant she never administered medication ever again. Even if they thought it was a mistake, the incompetence alone should have been a serious enough issue.
In context now it’s hard to imagine how LL got away with it so long but it’s kinda clear we typically don’t believe anyone is capable of harming vulnerable babies. LL was a narcissist and incredibly deceptive.
I just wish along the way that someone sooner had spotted what she was up to. The signs are so clear now.
At least she was caught. Imagine just a month or two longer the more damage she could’ve done.
I wonder how her life in prison is. Does she relive these murders with relish, in her own head she can’t have denial, that’s only for the outside world. Does she regret her clumsy errors that gave her crimes eventually away? Has she hatred for those against her? Does she connive to exploit those who believe she is innocent?
I just wish along the way that someone sooner had spotted what she was up to. The signs are so clear now.
At least she was caught. Imagine just a month or two longer the more damage she could’ve done.
I wonder how her life in prison is. Does she relive these murders with relish, in her own head she can’t have denial, that’s only for the outside world. Does she regret her clumsy errors that gave her crimes eventually away? Has she hatred for those against her? Does she connive to exploit those who believe she is innocent?
I really, really want to hear more about the April 2016 “error” because that’s towards the end of this one year killing spree so why wasn’t this a major red flag? None of the doctors earlier on in the inquiry mentioned it at all so did they even know? Who did know?
And she WILL HATE that this document and her shittness is on view for everyone to see!!!
Didn’t she tell the police in her interviews that she never made mistakes? 
LOVE the tit that’s coming out about her now, because these are the headlines that will upset her the most 
LOVE the tit that’s coming out about her now, because these are the headlines that will upset her the most 
I suppose it depends whether it was Datixed or not. It should have been but with Powell so firmly in Letbys camp who knows?
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I really do wonder what happens to the killing urge in prison? How does she channel it? Obviously she has no way of carrying out that sort of thing in there, they are hardly going to let her work in the sick bay or whatever they have so where does that urge go?
More evidence up… this is messages from 2013 drug “error”. Eirian had her back. I cannot WAIT to hear about Eirian’s evidence tomorrow.
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And the corresponding datix…as reported, it happened before handover and so it wasn’t even Letby that raised it of course.
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And the corresponding datix…as reported, it happened before handover and so it wasn’t even Letby that raised it of course.
Escalated more than it should be? That dose could have killed that baby. Surely its a never event
It’s possible they gave Yvonne Griffiths a hard time today as there are quite a few documents up relating to her. These are extracts from a grievance meeting. She does not come across well here!! No consideration for patient safety. It’s all about Lucy.
Seems she’s not very good at counting either if she felt it was equivalent to previous years
I do wonder if some of these will continue to support Lucy for self preservation reasons. Must be hard to accept you defended a baby murderer. I can’t remember how YG came across in the trial.
Full document here: https://thirlwall.public-inquiry.uk/wp-content/uploads/thirlwall-evidence/INQ0003167_01-03.pdf
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Today’s transcript. Monday’s still missing.
Seems she’s not very good at counting either if she felt it was equivalent to previous years
I do wonder if some of these will continue to support Lucy for self preservation reasons. Must be hard to accept you defended a baby murderer. I can’t remember how YG came across in the trial.Full document here: https://thirlwall.public-inquiry.uk/wp-content/uploads/thirlwall-evidence/INQ0003167_01-03.pdf
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Today’s transcript. Monday’s still missing.
I honestly wonder if killing was just incidental, in that she loved the drama and grief she caused, then the praise got for being good in a crisis and that was what she was after. She will be getting similar from reliving the families grief laid out in the inquiry, and the adoration from her weird “fans” so I don’t personally think she will be having the urge to kill but I bet she gets involved in prison drama.
Joining you all again now the inquiry is heating up. Absolutely no way that morphine overdose was an accident. She was testing the waters of how far she could push it. Don’t think she intended to kill that child as would have been obviously her (even if claiming as error). But definitely wanted to see them collapse and need resus
I can’t remember if this detail was in the news article, but on a form EP has written the drug calculation was correct , it was the infusion pump that was wrong. It was set up by Letby at 7am before handover. This gives me serious chills. Especially how she was unhappy to be taken off administering controlled drugs. Wouldn’t most people just be horrified with themselves they made such a dangerous error? Not kick off about it.
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Eirian Powell retired in December 2017.
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Eirian Powell retired in December 2017.
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The morphine overdose was definitely an early attempt. It has all the hallmarks of the later insulin poisonings, which was to hook a baby up so that they would suffer the effects after she was off shift.
If she had got away with that one, I'm sure there would be morphine attempts and murders among her convictions.
That baby is so lucky another nurse noticed.
If she had got away with that one, I'm sure there would be morphine attempts and murders among her convictions.
That baby is so lucky another nurse noticed.
And morphine should be checked by two nurses shouldn't it?
Bit more from the Guardian
‘Richard Baker KC, representing some of the families of Letby’s victims, said: “One interpretation of what happened is that Lucy Letby went over your head, complained about your decision and you were overruled.
“If that is the conclusion reached, would you with the benefit of hindsight regard that as very manipulative behaviour on the part of Letby?”
Griffiths replied: “I suppose it shows a very overconfident nurse, because part of a nursing journey is to learn from any mistakes potentially … I did think that was inappropriate and I agree it was quite manipulative.”
Baker said: “Quite grandiose and arrogant as well, isn’t it?”
Griffiths said: “It is, yes.”
‘Richard Baker KC, representing some of the families of Letby’s victims, said: “One interpretation of what happened is that Lucy Letby went over your head, complained about your decision and you were overruled.
“If that is the conclusion reached, would you with the benefit of hindsight regard that as very manipulative behaviour on the part of Letby?”
Griffiths replied: “I suppose it shows a very overconfident nurse, because part of a nursing journey is to learn from any mistakes potentially … I did think that was inappropriate and I agree it was quite manipulative.”
Baker said: “Quite grandiose and arrogant as well, isn’t it?”
Griffiths said: “It is, yes.”
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