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O'lee
Well-known member
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq8xjqxv0y9o Jesus Christ, she gave a baby *ten times* the prescribed dose of morphine in 2013
honestly, that pristine handover sheet in a memory keepsake box is looking more and more likely a trophy of her very first victim.
Bleekemolen
Well-known member
Bit more reporting from today:
Lucy Letby initially failed her final year placement as a student nurse after she was noted to be “cold” and lacking empathy with patients and families, a public inquiry has heard.
Her assessor Nicola Lightfoot, deputy ward manager on the children’s unit at the Countess of Chester Hospital, said it was apparent to her that Letby did not have the “overall characteristics” to become a successful registered nurse.
Giving evidence at the Thirlwall Inquiry into events surrounding the neonatal nurse’s crimes, Ms Lightfoot said: “I found Lucy to be quite cold. I did not find a natural warmth exuding from her which I expect from a children’s nurse.
“We see students that are extremely academic, but actually from a personality point of view they don’t seem to blend into the role of being a children’s nurse which includes characteristics (such) as empathy, being kind, being friendly and being able to establish good relationships with our families.”
Ms Lightfoot also found that Letby’s clinical knowledge was “not where it should be” and that she “struggled” to retain information over calculating dosages of drug medication and also to recognise side effects of common drugs.
In her final report on the then University of Chester student in July 2011 she wrote: “At the moment Lucy requires much more support, prompting and supervision than I would expect at this stage to allow her to qualify as a competent practitioner.
“However I strongly feel if Lucy continues to take on board feedback, continues to work on her weaker areas and develop her practice accordingly then this is achievable in the future.”
Any student who failed their final placement had the opportunity to repeat it and achieve the competencies they had not achieved, the inquiry heard.
Letby passed her three outstanding competencies in a four-week retrieval placement which started the next day with a different supervisor which she had requested after she said she felt “intimidated” by Ms Lightfoot.
Ms Lightfoot said that she was not surprised by this comment as it was her role to challenge students about their knowledge and skills.
She said: “I felt I couldn’t objectively continue as Lucy’s mentor, and she felt the same, because I genuinely did not think in four weeks she would be at a level to sign her off.
“I have to be sure that this person is ready and safe to practice and I wasn’t prepared to put my professional reputation and registration on the line at that point.”
Her next mentor, Sarah Jane Murphy, stated to the inquiry that she thought Ms Lightfoot was a very experienced nurse who would never have failed a student without good reason.
The Thirlwall Inquiry is taking place at Liverpool Town Hall (Peter Byrne/PA)
She added she was “conflicted” over later passing Letby but said she had met the standards required and had received positive feedback from other members of staff.
Ms Murphy also mentored Letby in her first year as a student nurse, the inquiry was told.
She recalled: “I remember Letby being quiet and I thought shy.
“She didn’t show good inter-personal skills with children, parents, nurses or the wider team. I believed this to be Letby’s lack of confidence and experience as she was very young and an only child away from home.
“There was a tendency upon some students to hang around the nurses’ station and the desk area. Letby was one of these students and often had quite an expressionless look which I and other staff members found awkward.
“I think she felt comfortable working with me but she remained quiet and never appeared particularly animated or to be enjoying herself.
“At the end of the first placement I remember telling Letby although she had passed the placement it was important that she develop her communication skills, especially with the children and the families.”
Ms Lightfoot also told the hearing she overheard an “inappropriate” comment from Letby in the wake of the deaths of two triplet boys on successive days in June 2016 – who Letby was later convicted of murdering.
She said: “As I was coming out of the break room I passed Lucy, who didn’t see me. She was coming out of her unit and greeting a member of the night staff that was coming on and I heard her say something along the lines of: ‘You’ll never guess what’s happened.’ The way she said it seemed like she was talking about some sort of exciting event she had witnessed.
“It wasn’t an appropriate response to the death of a child. I have never, and I have never since, seen a response like that to a nurse involved in a patient’s passing.”
Lucy Letby initially failed her final year placement as a student nurse after she was noted to be “cold” and lacking empathy with patients and families, a public inquiry has heard.
Her assessor Nicola Lightfoot, deputy ward manager on the children’s unit at the Countess of Chester Hospital, said it was apparent to her that Letby did not have the “overall characteristics” to become a successful registered nurse.
Giving evidence at the Thirlwall Inquiry into events surrounding the neonatal nurse’s crimes, Ms Lightfoot said: “I found Lucy to be quite cold. I did not find a natural warmth exuding from her which I expect from a children’s nurse.
“We see students that are extremely academic, but actually from a personality point of view they don’t seem to blend into the role of being a children’s nurse which includes characteristics (such) as empathy, being kind, being friendly and being able to establish good relationships with our families.”
Ms Lightfoot also found that Letby’s clinical knowledge was “not where it should be” and that she “struggled” to retain information over calculating dosages of drug medication and also to recognise side effects of common drugs.
In her final report on the then University of Chester student in July 2011 she wrote: “At the moment Lucy requires much more support, prompting and supervision than I would expect at this stage to allow her to qualify as a competent practitioner.
“However I strongly feel if Lucy continues to take on board feedback, continues to work on her weaker areas and develop her practice accordingly then this is achievable in the future.”
Any student who failed their final placement had the opportunity to repeat it and achieve the competencies they had not achieved, the inquiry heard.
Letby passed her three outstanding competencies in a four-week retrieval placement which started the next day with a different supervisor which she had requested after she said she felt “intimidated” by Ms Lightfoot.
Ms Lightfoot said that she was not surprised by this comment as it was her role to challenge students about their knowledge and skills.
She said: “I felt I couldn’t objectively continue as Lucy’s mentor, and she felt the same, because I genuinely did not think in four weeks she would be at a level to sign her off.
“I have to be sure that this person is ready and safe to practice and I wasn’t prepared to put my professional reputation and registration on the line at that point.”
Her next mentor, Sarah Jane Murphy, stated to the inquiry that she thought Ms Lightfoot was a very experienced nurse who would never have failed a student without good reason.
The Thirlwall Inquiry is taking place at Liverpool Town Hall (Peter Byrne/PA)
She added she was “conflicted” over later passing Letby but said she had met the standards required and had received positive feedback from other members of staff.
Ms Murphy also mentored Letby in her first year as a student nurse, the inquiry was told.
She recalled: “I remember Letby being quiet and I thought shy.
“She didn’t show good inter-personal skills with children, parents, nurses or the wider team. I believed this to be Letby’s lack of confidence and experience as she was very young and an only child away from home.
“There was a tendency upon some students to hang around the nurses’ station and the desk area. Letby was one of these students and often had quite an expressionless look which I and other staff members found awkward.
“I think she felt comfortable working with me but she remained quiet and never appeared particularly animated or to be enjoying herself.
“At the end of the first placement I remember telling Letby although she had passed the placement it was important that she develop her communication skills, especially with the children and the families.”
Ms Lightfoot also told the hearing she overheard an “inappropriate” comment from Letby in the wake of the deaths of two triplet boys on successive days in June 2016 – who Letby was later convicted of murdering.
She said: “As I was coming out of the break room I passed Lucy, who didn’t see me. She was coming out of her unit and greeting a member of the night staff that was coming on and I heard her say something along the lines of: ‘You’ll never guess what’s happened.’ The way she said it seemed like she was talking about some sort of exciting event she had witnessed.
“It wasn’t an appropriate response to the death of a child. I have never, and I have never since, seen a response like that to a nurse involved in a patient’s passing.”
AllieBee
VIP Member
She is such an arrogant cow. And she wasn't exonerated, a line drawn by Chambers is not exonerated! I would have been really annoyed to get that smug email if I worked on her ward!
She's even marked it as high importance she really did think an awful lot of herself didn't she!
Takemetoyourbuffet
Chatty Member
KC: Those are all the questions I have for Dr U. Is there anything further M'lady?
Big Lady J Thirlwall: Did you bang tho?
Big Lady J Thirlwall: Did you bang tho?
Secretbrillopad
VIP Member
She looks exactly like I expected, she's got that 'useless NHS management that's too expensive to get rid of' look and haircut.
Takemetoyourbuffet
Chatty Member
Can you imagine if a social worker said they couldn't wait to remove their first kids from their parents to 'get it out of the way.' There would be uproar because it's absolutely not fucking normal.
And people out there try and justify this behaviour! What the fuck?!
And people out there try and justify this behaviour! What the fuck?!
Walnutss
VIP Member
Thanks guys for your insights into the inquiry. Found it hard this time to follow as I'm just so angry that the media is entertaining the fact it may have been a wrongful conviction. I don't know if its just to get clicks but it is disgusting. It's been said over snd over by u guys but imagine seeing that online after she murdered ur child. Anyone that has followed even a little can see she is guilty as sin. Thanks for making it easy to follow u guys are doing the Lords work.
Futtrit
VIP Member
Probably why she wanted to appear at court as well. Thought she could dance the dance but didn't realise that BNE is a Salsa KING!
Letby’s full statement to the consultants! (January 2017)
I mean, if Eirian can’t even see that overdosing a baby on morphine and giving the wrong baby antibiotics means Letby can’t even be a great nurse then there’s no hope for her.
thank fuck she’s retired and no more babies will be put at risk under her management. Because of regardless of the benefit of hindsight, she couldn’t even consider competence an issue despite Letby’s previous serious errors.
I’m not surprised she’s still defending Letby though really. Because to accept Letby is a murderer would mean she has to accept she massively failed many, many babies.
thank fuck she’s retired and no more babies will be put at risk under her management. Because of regardless of the benefit of hindsight, she couldn’t even consider competence an issue despite Letby’s previous serious errors.
I’m not surprised she’s still defending Letby though really. Because to accept Letby is a murderer would mean she has to accept she massively failed many, many babies.
MmmB777
VIP Member
MmmB777
VIP Member
Not a chance in hell it was an accident. Happened just before handover!!!!! What are the chances eh
www.standard.co.uk
Lucy Letby gave potentially fatal dose of morphine to newborn, inquiry told
An infant was given 10 times the correct dosage two years before Letby murdered her first victim, the Thirlwall Inquiry heard.