Long time lurker, posted once about her presence at ALL the attacks & this is what I keep coming back to. If we agree that the deaths were deliberate, then they had to be done by somebody & who was present for all of them? Nobody was even remotely close behind! Can’t have been committed by somebody who’s only there for a 1/3 of them. To me, it’s irrelevant what LL/colleagues presence rate was for other collapses on the unit. If they’re not deemed suspicious then it doesn’t matter who is/isn’t there. What matters is when these murders were committed, who was always there to commit them? Surprised LL is so cocky about getting away with it, it’s well known that police cross reference shift data with deaths to identify nurse killers…
Interested to hear her defence, everybody deserves their chance to share their side: However I do have a few points about defence if anybody could shed some light…
So usually in murder cases there’s no disputing the murder has occurred, it’s more if the accused is guilty or not. In this case, they’re defending LL by not only arguing it’s not her, but that some deaths weren’t even murder…. This to me seems contradictory & confusing because they are also accepting some collapses as intentional… “oh that wasn’t murder that was an infection… but yes the insulin, that was attempted murder, but not by LL…”. Okay right, which one is it?! Their stance seems confusing. I thought they’d either argue that the deaths weren’t murder, or that they were murder but it isn’t by LL. Instead they’re doing a bit of both?
Also, thinking aloud, how can they ensure presenting expert witnesses is fair & representative? As in…. You ask 100 doctors if liver bleeding was caused by an attack or by CPR… 95 say caused by attack, 5 say CPR. So it’s much more likely that 95% are indeed correct than the 5%, yes? For most medical matters, you always have a minority who disagree with mainstream consensus. But say each side is allowed 2 expert witnesses; if prosecution choose 2 out of the 95 doctors to argue that liver bleeding is caused by attack, and defence also call up 2 out of the 5 doctors to argue that liver bleeding is caused by CPR, to the jury it looks like there’s a 50/50 split with whether liver bleeding was caused by attack or CPR, when in reality an overwhelming majority of doctors believe it’s an attack and only a select few believe the latter. Not sure I’m even making sense, find it hard to put into words…
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Also, I can’t imagine the mental anguish these parents are going through and what emotions/trauma seeing LL take the stand will provoke. The what ifs going through their heads must be absolutely gut wrenching…. What if baby was born a different day/cared for by different nurse/born at different hospital/transferred , pregnancy/labour went differently, was always in presence of parents etc. I can’t imagine these thoughts constantly whirring around in my head. I do hope the parents find some peace & answers but the fact she’s plead NG & willing to take stand makes me feel that she has no empathy or remorse & these poor parents won’t get this. My heart
