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Former_Antelopee

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To me it just doesn’t fit with all the times she was being praised for being a very competent nurse and the “boredom” she talks about with regards to her job and the lack of eventful things happening on the unit (prior to the deaths/collapses). If she truly felt she was that incompetent then why did she scoff at feeding babies and yearn to be where the action was - nursery 1?

If I felt I was so bad at my job I’d be looking for less responsibility and more training, not the opposite.
I was thinking more so after she was accused/interviewed - although was the note taken then? If so then maybe even getting out onto the admin. Made her doubt everything she had done, made her think she’d done it on purpose as now her nursing skills were being questioned and being accused of the worst thing
 

stardust1

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Why would she write it, I’m lost at this on

i was thinking it was their pet names 🤢 from the way it seems to be linked with Noname constantly. That’s why Bergerac in the middle of it completely threw me. This was on the annual leave form and suggests pet names to me:

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was Bergerac on the telly at the same time she wrote it maybe
 

nichew

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If she’s guilty we will hear more about her childhood which maybe explain some things however, it’s hard to say from what we know so far. To me looks like she was maybe spoilt, her parents maybe overbearing and brought up with attitude that Lucy was always right, but how many other kids are brought up like that and don’t go on to kill.
I personally think it had nothing to do with her upbringing, I think it was a perverse sick motion to kill and she got a thrill out of doing it. Hence I thinks she’s enjoying the trial and reliving it over again.
I have no doubts she’s guilty and hope shes locked away never to be seen again, she makes me sick to think about what she’s put these parents through.
Was she adopted or have I dreamt that?
 

stardust1

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BM tried to do this with Dr Evans the expert witness in this case, he brought up a previous unconnected incident where his work was criticised. It mightn’t be held against them in the sense of having personal consequences, but can be used to damage their credibility as an expert in future cases.

Waney Squier who used to be an expert witness in for the prosecution in shaken baby cases is an interesting example of what you’re asking. Absolutely reputations can be damaged if evidence is given that turns out to be misguided or untrue. She was charged with providing misleading information to the court, and was initially struck off the medical register (though later reinstated when a further hearing ruled she had committed misconduct, but not been intentionally dishonest in her evidence.) She was banned from being a medical expert for three years. She has since changed her view about shaken baby syndrome and no longer believes it exists

Roy Meadow is another example, he was an expert witness involved involved in wrongly convicting several women of murdering their babies. Really awful cases. Interestingly he gave evidence in Beverley Allitts trial too, but it’s the stuff about sudden infant death where he gave really bogus statistical evidence that ruined many lives and his reputation. He was found guilty of professional misconduct too, and also struck off but reinstated on appeal. Awful man
wow that’s crazy. Did they ever explain why they gave wrong information?
 

Former_Antelopee

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A coincidence is a strange thing to say imo but appreciate we all see it differently! That’s essentially what her whole defence relies on though so for it to be a coincidence by baby q and after the last few days she’d just had then.. unlucky!
What else would you expect her to say? Just wondering as the only other thing I could think of was her saying she did it