Lucy Letby case #22

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Tofino

DellaC said:
Maybe she scared herself? There's got to be some conflict inside oneself when murdering those you're meant to be caring for.

Hopefully there'll be more detail on the crying but it seems overboard and inappropriate to me.

Let's face it, she's dealt with her fair share of dead babies and had done a great job of keeping her emotions in tact.
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It’s weird because she doesn’t sound too devastated following the death of Baby O going by the messages she’s sending afterwards. Even to her mum ‘yep it’s just as well I love my job!’ It’s like the complete opposite to floods of tears!!
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Oh now she’s telling Dr Love that she was blubbering at work. Sounds like he was on shift too?

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MmmB777

Tofino said:
It’s weird because she doesn’t sound too devastated following the death of Baby O going by the messages she’s sending afterwards. Even to her mum ‘yep it’s just as well I love my job!’ It’s like the complete opposite to floods of tears!!
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Yeah just about to say wtf she’s just going “get me back to Ibiza one minute to in floods of tears and grief the next. I’m totally confused by her explanation for baby O too. He gulped air. You were his nurse why did he die from gulping air. This was her excuse for another baby filled to the brim with air wasn’t it. How many babies with no other problems die by gulping air. How many times does it happen for one nurse for it to be her bleeping fault. She pumped them full of air and she knows it. Babies like this would be dying in their droves if her explanation was true.
 
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At this point, with all the suspicions starting to be raised, emotions amongst staff must have been running at an all time high, with everyone thinking ‘what next!’ So it’s no surprise the ward was frantic and chaos, NOBODY ( maybe other than Letby) would want anything like that to happen again, let alone two sibling babies in the space of 48 hours.

Also, how deluded do you have to be to think there’s a job being lined up for you! Mere weeks before you’re out on admin duties! Or is that pure arrogance?
 
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Tofino

He’s definitely keen!! Messaging until bedtime and again first thing in the morning!

Notice the pattern of seeking support and attention from her colleague
 
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Tofino

Are we missing something here? Does it sound like her incident report on 30th is trying to cover her tracks? She did not mention the missing equipment in her messages.

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Tofino

MmmB777 said:
Wow wow wow. This is after the last incident, baby Q is 25th June.
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Oh yes I missed it was Q as well as O. so Dr Noname brings up baby Q and baby O in his messages to her on 27th? Was it him that logged the datix on 29th (she probably knew this from him!) so she logs one on 30th?
 
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OldBlondie

Tofino said:
It’s weird because she doesn’t sound too devastated following the death of Baby O going by the messages she’s sending afterwards. Even to her mum ‘yep it’s just as well I love my job!’ It’s like the complete opposite to floods of tears!!
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Oh now she’s telling Dr Love that she was blubbering at work. Sounds like he was on shift too?

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I definitely think the floods of tears are for Dr Nonames’s benefit… oh poor Lucy yet again 🙄

Also very concerning she was already talking about the triplets with Dr Noname whilst still in Ibiza 🚩🚩🚩I can’t help but think these later babies are to do with her feelings for Dr Noname 🤢🤢🤢

O and P are sounding very similar to A&B so far too 😩
 
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MmmB777 said:
Wow wow wow. This is after the last incident, baby Q is 25th June.
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she was put on admin duties around this time also wasn’t she? I’m sure stated in the opening statement that other than three shifts the following week that was the last time letby worked on the ward (or something along those lines).
 
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OldBlondie

Tofino said:
Oh yes I missed it was Q as well as O. so Dr Noname brings up baby Q and baby O in his messages to her on 27th? Was it him that logged the datix on 29th (she probably knew this from him!) so she logs one on 30th?
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I mean when you put it like that 😱😱😱
 
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MmmB777

Tofino said:
Oh yes I missed it was Q as well as O. so Dr Noname brings up baby Q and baby O in his messages to her on 27th? Was it him that logged the datix on 29th (she probably knew this from him!) so she logs one on 30th?
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I might need you to walk me through this? What does he say about q&o?
Eta baby O was doing so well. For triplets they were so healthy. Just awful.
 
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Another reference made to the scarf! I imagine it’s something basic like this…

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Those poor parents. Not the first time the comparisons have been made between this hospital and Liverpool, what they've been through is horrendous but then thinking back on all of the poor practice must have been eating them up over the years.
 
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Tofino said:
oh yes absolutely right he was annoyed with her. Given she looks down on a lot of the staff you would expect she would be able to do a better job of knowing how many shots of adrenaline the baby had. I did wonder about her trying to sabotage treatment.
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Wanting room 1 again. And the boys that died were in room 2 where she was designated.

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Why would the Dr claim everything was safe and well organised? Is he deluded or is that how it came across?
 
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MmmB777 said:
I might need you to walk me through this? What does he say about q&o?
Eta baby O was doing so well. For triplets they were so healthy. Just awful.
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This is what was said… so he’s messaging her after the final 3 babies about the care and paperwork for O and Q.

The doctor messages Letby on Monday, June 27 about the care for Child Q, and a Facebook conversation takes place.

A reference is made to clarify paperwork for a prescription for Child O during the resuscitation attempts.

My understanding is this

15-22 June - Lucy in Ibiza
23rd June - 1st shift back baby O dies
24th June - 2nd shift back baby P died
25th June - 3rd shift back baby Q nearly dies

27th June - Dr Noname messages Lucy about baby O and baby Q but not clear what was specifically said

29th June - datix report logged re baby O but not clear who

30th June - Lucy logs datix report re baby O
 
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