This is me to be honest. I feel like there was more going on beyond 'normal' deterioration, and certainly some of LLs actions and messages seem odd; but if I was on the jury I wouldn't be able to say I believed she was guilty beyond reasonable doubt at this point. Open minded though.
Me too. I’ve flip-flopped from unsure to guilty to unsure again. I do lean more towards guilty but agree, I need to get the rest of the evidence before I can settle.
this was more reporting on what actually happened and no where in any report has it mentioned her not getting out of bed, we have no idea what she was doing while in accommodation, she could have been on the phone to other doctors, she could have been resting, she could have been catching up on notes for all we know. Either way it’s totally irrelevant and nowhere does it say about her being in bed, not fair to then say she couldn’t be bothered getting out of it
Good points!! Still think the deaths and crashes were malicious not just gross incompetence by someone (Letby) but it still seems vague to the exact cause, although I do understand in these cases it can be hard to prove 100%.
100%, its been annoying me greatly and I didn't know how to word it in a way that others didn't feel attacked.Where is this the on call consultant “couldn’t be bothered getting out of bed” coming from? All we have seen is she was in either her own accommodation, or hospital accommodation. Was called twice by registrar, plan made over phone both times, and she said she wouldn’t have done anything different if she’d been there, but now says she probably should have got there earlier in hindsight. Don’t understand why people are saying she couldn’t be bothered getting out of bed
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Well those families want justice, not a miscarriage of justice, so it's only fair that discussion is balanced. I agree with you though, although I sway more towards guilty, I've just not bought into everything that the prosecution are selling.
A death will be hard to ascertain if it’s sabotage won’t it because A) you’re never thinking that could be possible and B) nobody will have ever seen these kind of reactions and medical journeys taking these directions and twists and turns.Good points!! Still think the deaths and crashes were malicious not just gross incompetence by someone (Letby) but it still seems vague to the exact cause, although I do understand in these cases it can be hard to prove 100%.
As people has said before, we all technically die of heartfailure
100%, its been annoying me greatly and I didn't know how to word it in a way that others didn't feel attacked.
I don't want people to feel that way but the assumptions people are making and unhelpful and distract from the information we have actually been provided.
It's hard enough to wade through without unhelpful exaggerations.
There's a lot of reaching imo and assumptions being made about how these things work in healthcare which I agree isn't overly helpful.Where is this the on call consultant “couldn’t be bothered getting out of bed” coming from? All we have seen is she was in either her own accommodation, or hospital accommodation. Was called twice by registrar, plan made over phone both times, and she said she wouldn’t have done anything different if she’d been there, but now says she probably should have got there earlier in hindsight. Don’t understand why people are saying she couldn’t be bothered getting out of bed
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Hospital accommodation is essentially a room with a bed so I'm not sure what else she could have been doing.Where is this the on call consultant “couldn’t be bothered getting out of bed” coming from? All we have seen is she was in either her own accommodation, or hospital accommodation. Was called twice by registrar, plan made over phone both times, and she said she wouldn’t have done anything different if she’d been there, but now says she probably should have got there earlier in hindsight. Don’t understand why people are saying she couldn’t be bothered getting out of bed
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People have been making assumptions about LL aswell, and I understand that she's the one on trial but if you've followed any previous trial threads on Tattle, the only people who are not scrutinised are the victims.Good points!! Still think the deaths and crashes were malicious not just gross incompetence by someone (Letby) but it still seems vague to the exact cause, although I do understand in these cases it can be hard to prove 100%.
As people has said before, we all technically die of heartfailure
100%, its been annoying me greatly and I didn't know how to word it in a way that others didn't feel attacked.
I don't want people to feel that way but the assumptions people are making and unhelpful and distract from the information we have actually been provided.
It's hard enough to wade through without unhelpful exaggerations.
I am guessing the 'missing bits' will be presented by the defence to create a fuller picture?
