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messi

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How do you think the snipers should have acted? Do you think they act alone? Should they have shot the car which went down the street before this one?

I'm hopeful for the victims but worried that if people don't die they get forgotten. Life changing injuries can be just as devastating as death.
I think they should have had some kind of quick communication with people on the ground this was an event with road closures and very likely high risk of a terror attack a car being allowed to drive the wrong way down a one way street that is supposedly blocked, there’s a lot of people that are going to have to answer some very serious questions
 
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HotesTilaire

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Dale street goes in water street. Castle street is off to the left in front of the town hall but I think it's no entry that way. I can't see on the footage how far down Dale street the car was.
I know. And Rumford St is to the right. He didn’t have to go down Water St.
 
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HotesTilaire

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He’s almost being deified by the media now, they’ve even got a mechanic who serviced the car three months ago to sing his praises. It’s disgusting he could have killed people but never mind his car passed its MOT & he kept it clean.
Thought it was his wife’s car 🤣
 
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Veronicaaa

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Wouldnt that be because they train for incidents so know how to respond.
Bit like when the Queen died it was all planned how to announce etc
I deleted my post because I couldn't be bothered getting into it, but I meant more the response to it than to the act itself.
How it takes away attention from what really matters.
There was about 3 hours non stop footage on both BBC and Sky news channels of the parade, before this happened.
 
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minnieandmickey

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Attempted Murder - Maximum Sentence: Life.. however
Sentencing Guidelines:
Attempted murder is an indictable-only offence, heard in the Crown Court, Sentencing depends heavily on:
Level of intent to kill, Use of weapons or planning, Extent of harm or injury caused, Victim vulnerability, Mitigating/aggravating factors
Typical Sentences, Range from 10 years to life imprisonment
DUID (driving under the influence of drugs) 1st offence upto 12 months and disquisition from driving 2nd offence other factors will come into play.
now combine the two offences, if someone is charged with both attempted murder and drug driving (e.g. they intentionally tried to kill while under the influence), the attempted murder would completely overshadow the DUID charge in terms of sentencing severity.
So without knowing all the facts I would say he’s looking at a minimum of 10-12 years + if he is charged.
 
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MsGilmore

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I just saw another angle right before the incident and it looks like there’s a few cars in front of him

Starting to think the police messed up here with crowd control (i.e people hadn’t cleared out yet) and opening the street back up or something. I’m confused by what any cars were doing there in general
That’s exactly what I’m trying to say. He was beeping which is unusual.
Lots of people seem to see things as black and white rather than there being grey areas.
 
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lilacbutterfly

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Yeah but they're the two main UK news channels, which I flick back and forth to? Where else should I watch?
Al Jazeera offers good coverage, it’s available on most boxes, otherwise telegram is your best bet. If you’re after specific groups I can message you some, but most detailed and up to date coverage will be in Arabic
 
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HotesTilaire

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Career crims generally look down on people who harm kids, old ladies etc. That's why they have to keep certain criminals on a separate wing. Ex coppers also tend to get a hard time.
Career crims are usually on normal courtyard exercise
 
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Veronicaaa

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I don’t think this man drove into a crowd of people as a distraction for what’s going on in Gaza. Both are valid issues, one affecting people in the UK directly hence the interest??
I'm not complaining about the coverage of the attack. I was complaining about the 3 hours before the attack.
 
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