Liverpool Trophy Parade Attack #2

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They have to try. I hope they manage to get him to say he is sorry, it would do him some good.
If he does apologise, I believe it will literally be for his own good.

I haven't heard that he's done anything to show regret for hurting others, only the effect it'll have on him. Especially now knowing he was sober.

He lied that someone in the crowd had a knife, then cried because he ruined his family's life, and then probably only changed his plea to guilty because there was too much proof that it was deliberate. Most of it captured by his own bloody dash cam!
 
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If he does apologise, I believe it will literally be for his own good.

I haven't heard that he's done anythig to show regret for hurting others, only the effect it'll have on him. Especially now knowing he was sober.

He lied that someone in the crowd had a knife, then cried because he ruined his family's life, and then probably only changed his plea to guilty because there was too much proof that it was deliberate. Most of it captured by his own bloody dash cam!
I agree, but it would help.
 
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Did we ever find out if anyone in West Derby knew him?
With Liverpool being very insular, there’s always someone who knows someone. I find it really weird that I haven’t yet found anyone who knows Doyle, he is my family members age and they went to school in the area Doyle lives. Closest I got is to know his neighbour who lives a few doors down on Burghill but only moved in a couple of years ago and lives on the straight part of the road and doesn’t know any of the Doyle family.
Even when you are out and about talking to strangers about Doyle, everyone is saying the same thing, nobody knows him or anybody around him. This is really strange for a close knit city like Liverpool.
 
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A few people have spoken to the press - saying he is quiet, they are a nice family, etc.

I expect after sentencing, there may be some stories sold to the press, etc. I think that’s how it usually happens.

I am imagining two possible outcomes. There may be lots of stories coming out after sentencing, ex colleagues, ex partners etc - or there could be very little.
If he is the type who presents as pleasant, quiet and keeps himself private - whilst is a thug behind closed doors, there may not be many folk involved with him.

It seems odd that people can live like that - but they can in modern times (though not as easy when you have a young or young ish family).
A neighbour of mine passed away recently (he died at home). He was only in his late thirties, and it is rumoured that he passed in his sleep of natural causes.
I realised that in a period of around 8 years, I only saw him once (locking his front door and walking to his car).
It is said that he worked from home (even pre Covid), and barely went out. His immediate next door neighbour said he would wave on the few occasions she spotted him and gestured, but they never spoke.
It’s a very friendly, small neighbourhood. Unusual - but I imagine it’s easier to be reclusive now.
 
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With Liverpool being very insular, there’s always someone who knows someone. I find it really weird that I haven’t yet found anyone who knows Doyle, he is my family members age and they went to school in the area Doyle lives. Closest I got is to know his neighbour who lives a few doors down on Burghill but only moved in a couple of years ago and lives on the straight part of the road and doesn’t know any of the Doyle family.
Even when you are out and about talking to strangers about Doyle, everyone is saying the same thing, nobody knows him or anybody around him. This is really strange for a close knit city like Liverpool.
I’m from Manchester and I don’t know him personally but my partner worked with him at an IT company based in Newton-le-Willows, I’m not sure of the exact time but it was between 2010-2014. Doyle’s old colleagues were texting each other when it all happened so there are definitely people that know him in real life. None of them were from Liverpool though.
 
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I’m from Manchester and I don’t know him personally but my partner worked with him at an IT company based in Newton-le-Willows, I’m not sure of the exact time but it was between 2010-2014. Doyle’s old colleagues were texting each other when it all happened so there are definitely people that know him in real life. None of them were from Liverpool though.
What was his take on the guy's personality?
 
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What was his take on the guy's personality?
He’s not really said much about him and I only found this thread this morning. I’ll quiz him tonight and update if there’s anything that he remembers about him. When it all happened he got a couple of texts from old colleagues to tell him that it was Paul Doyle from Instrinsic Technologies, they were based in Newton-le-Willows/Haydock.

Edit: I’m only mentioning the company name as I believe the business no longer exists.
 
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The Victim Impact statements are incredibly powerful and show just how horrific this incident was for those involved. So many lives changed for ever, so many people suffering daily and all because some pathetic entitled tosser had extreme anger issues.
 
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They are absolutely devastating.
I feel so so sorry for them all.
I hope this is a VERY stiff sentence for him.
 
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I’ve been reading them on the guardian, so very sad and upsetting. One of the statements has asked him to be brave and take accountability rather than sit there crying, but sounds as if he is just sitting there crying.
 
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I’ve been reading them on the guardian, so very sad and upsetting. One of the statements has asked him to be brave and take accountability rather than sit there crying, but sounds as if he is just sitting there crying.
Isn't pleading guilty taking accountability?
Would these have been written before he plead guilty for the trail or after?
 
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He didn’t plead guilty to take accountability, he done it the first day of trial because he knew he was absolutely ducked and obviously wanted a lesser sentence. He’s crying for himself, not any of the people he could of killed
 
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Isn't pleading guilty taking accountability?
Would these have been written before he plead guilty for the trail or after?
If he’d done that in the first place? Maybe. But no, he said he was not guilty and probably didn’t change his mind until he realised the amount of evidence against him including his own dashcam. Now sits there crying and feeling sorry for himself.
 
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I have cried reading victim statements the past two days. Now I am so angry hearing about his convictions in the past and the fact he never actually served. All those people defending him and look what is coming out.
 
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Daily Mail is reporting he’s got a long history of violent offences including a prison stint in the 90s…..
 
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They are absolutely devastating.
I feel so so sorry for them all.
I hope this is a VERY stiff sentence for him.
I could only glance at them, they're too devastating to read in full.

Paired with his violent history, I hope he gets a life sentence. His actions are indefensible.
 
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Daily Mail is reporting he’s got a long history of violent offences including a prison stint in the 90s…..
I'm not surprised. I'd be much more surprised if a decent, non violent man suddenly drove through a crowd of people.
 
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