Liam Payne

[PeteM]

Well, if you don't find the whole thing very sad, it's odd.

 

[Miss.Chanandler.Bong]

We're taking about someone who gave a X Factor contestant a solo album deal to protect his brand rather than her going public about being grape in the hotel where she was put up during her time on the show.

He's a bleep.

Not only that. He walked her down the aisle at her wedding recently

 

[MrsDimSum]

Liam Payne’s ex-fiancée Maya Henry reveals she got an abortion

Maya Henry was in an on-and-off again relationship with Liam Payne from 2019 to 2022

www.independent.co.uk

This is what I’ve read, which is why I think it’s just the bit about his team telling her not to seek medical treatment is untrue.

hadn’t read this I listened to her TikTok regarding it a couple of days ago, and it sounded different.

this is what I mean about it being dangerous as we can all read such different things into it. A terrible thing for them both to go through too. I assume Liam learned from having Bear that being a Dad wasn’t for him, I’m sure he previously said in the end that’s what broke him and Cheryl up?

 

[missquota]

I feel so sad for his family and Cheryl. There's no way they were privately informed of his death before it became world news.

 

[Foxybrown]

I don't think that a good majority of x factor contestants coming out voicing their negative experience a coincidence, they were promised the world probably & in their naivety fell for it, & as for them coming out of the woodwork now against Simon Cowell/Syco to be fair this has been rumbling on in the background for quite a few years so I don't think it's just 'jumping on the bandwagon' now it's an on going saga - it's just weird some people make it in this industry unscathed & others don't, I wonder what distinguishes between the two?

 

[LaBlonde]

are all the radios acting like we are in mourning as a country and playing his songs every 30 mins

i mean, he literally just died and was part of one of the most successful british bands of recent times, i would be more surprised if radio stations weren’t playing constant one direction today (we have radio 1 on in work and they’ve judged it really well imo, considering their audiences’ average age).

 

[MrsDimSum]

Not only that. He walked her down the aisle at her wedding recently

That was the weirdest creepiest thing I’ve ever seen/heard

 

[Serene Serena]

His family have put out a statement now. I hope to God the press leave them alone to grieve in peace.

 

[hol20x]

I feel so sad for his family and Cheryl. There's no way they were privately informed of his death before it became world news.

It was literally reported by TMZ about 90 minutes after it happened. It's terrible to think that his family might not have been informed before it was public news.

 

[LaBlonde]

I don't think that a good majority of x factor contestants coming out voicing their negative experience a coincidence, they were promised the world probably & in their naivety fell for it, & as for them coming out of the woodwork now against Simon Cowell/Syco to be fair this has been rumbling on in the background for quite a few years so I don't think it's just 'jumping on the bandwagon' now it's an on going saga - it's just weird some people make it in this industry unscathed & others don't, I wonder what distinguishes between the two?

it’s interesting to think about. i think the people you have around you and your own personality are probably big factors. if you already have slightly insecure or obsessive tendencies, or have a thin skin, then i think you’ll struggle from the off. the level of fame you have to deal with is so variable too, and one direction were on a different level in what they had to navigate.

i do find it sad how when celebrities struggle with fame and speak out the message is “why are you complaining? you wanted this!” (ie chappell roan recently). when they start visibly struggling it turns into memes and why don’t they sort themselves out they’re rich enough. and then when something tragic happens everyone says “it’s so sad, fame is so hard”. it’s an absolutely brutal world to be in.

 

[Brummiebird]

His family’s statement, as desperately sad as it is, does anyone else get the feeling that there are going to be some awful tragic revelations coming out over the next few days? It was the prominent use of the word “brave” in their statement.

 

[Mardymermaid]

The treatment of xfactor contestants was clearly a problem as many have said however it feels like some of them are using his death to further their agenda and making it about them.

 

[testingonetwothreefoiur]

I think I read somewhere that fame is in and of itself, traumatising. Similar to life events like bereavements or homelessness.

All of those five lads were extremely vulnerable, cognitively and emotionally still developing when they were at their most famous. And they were like the Beatles, they just exploded. They went from anonymous teenagers to the most famous lads in the world. And after a few short years, left to figure out their overwhelming wealth and fame when the band came to a sudden stop. I remember thinking at the time, jeez, other people are graduating college and getting their lives started, and these 22 year olds are able to retire. And some of them continued on, forged a solo career, others like Liam really just didn't.

That kind of trauma is going to test your resilience, your mental health, your sense of self, your boundaries, how you've been raised, the support network around you. I can't say how I would handle it, quite honestly. I was raised by a narcissist mother, had a fair amount of family trauma, diagnosed ADHD later in life, dealt with eating disorders and depression before that. Just living has been hard at times. I can't imagine my background and neurodiversity and propensity towards mental health struggles - AND THEN - the intense, mindbending experience of being known for my picture perfect image that I have no control over, working 80 hour weeks, being stalked by fans and recognised everywhere, my relationships and appearance being scrutinised, beginning to believe, hey, I might be a big deal and then it's all snatched away from you and you're left with your head in a spin.

None of it forgives abuse, domestic violence, drug abuse, or any of the fan exploitation or the stuff that has come out about him. But I feel like, I understand the lack of coping. I understand the mental health crisis and the drug spiral and the way that he died. I feel like he didn't have that foundation or genetic disposition that perhaps Niall had, who seems a grounded lad with a supportive family and small circle and a whole life and business and identity away from his fame. It's desperately sad.

 

[yellowmellow]

Katie Waissel sounds like such a grief tourist. It's been less than 24h, maybe keep your public service announcements to yourself. I wonder when she last spoke to him since they were apparently such good friends

 

[NumptymeNumptyyou]

Well, if you don't find the whole thing very sad, it's odd.

Yes it is very sad for his family and friends.

But actually as a person I haven't met and don't really care about nope I don't feel sad any more than anyone else I haven't met.

And before you come at me For being heartless, remember Tattle is a snark site.

 

[whoareyouu]

I always find these ex X factor stars crawling out of the woodwork moaning about the treatment irritating. They were quite happy at the time to go along with it all yet when their careers tanked they decide to bite the very hand that once fed them. Katie Waissel, Rebecca Ferguson, Matt Cardle, Steve Brookstein etc were all hyped to be the next big thing so it must sting when you are dropped like a stone because either the public don’t get behind you to support you when it actually matters or that you are so close to “making it” yet don’t have the talent and drive needed. Without the x factor, to be blunt they would be singing in clubs scraping by.

As for struggling with the pressures of fame, I think much depends on family support. Niall and Harry seem to be quite tight with their families and actively sought to keep them fairly normal. Niall lived not far from me outside London and was often seen popping to Nando’s on his own without security etc. He led a private life and his pop star life which were separate. Liam meanwhile seemed quite unsettled without that kind of family support around him.

My parents went to see Rebecca Ferguson and said she spent the whole show moaning about how hard it was in the public eye and going on about X Factor and someone stole all her money. They said they get it and appreciate her story but that’s not what they paid to see.

 

[allforthegoss***]

TMZ posted a cropped photos of his left forearm and hip to show the tattoos to prove it was his body. Weird. I know!

Where can this be seen?

 

[under the ivy]

It’s so sad listening to Scott Mills do his Radio 2 show right now. I didn’t realise they had a close friendship.

 

[Shawads]

I think I read somewhere that fame is in and of itself, traumatising. Similar to life events like bereavements or homelessness.

All of those five lads were extremely vulnerable, cognitively and emotionally still developing when they were at their most famous. And they were like the Beatles, they just exploded. They went from anonymous teenagers to the most famous lads in the world. And after a few short years, left to figure out their overwhelming wealth and fame when the band came to a sudden stop. I remember thinking at the time, jeez, other people are graduating college and getting their lives started, and these 22 year olds are able to retire. And some of them continued on, forged a solo career, others like Liam really just didn't.

That kind of trauma is going to test your resilience, your mental health, your sense of self, your boundaries, how you've been raised, the support network around you. I can't say how I would handle it, quite honestly. I was raised by a narcissist mother, had a fair amount of family trauma, diagnosed ADHD later in life, dealt with eating disorders and depression before that. Just living has been hard at times. I can't imagine my background and neurodiversity and propensity towards mental health struggles - AND THEN - the intense, mindbending experience of being known for my picture perfect image that I have no control over, working 80 hour weeks, being stalked by fans and recognised everywhere, my relationships and appearance being scrutinised, beginning to believe, hey, I might be a big deal and then it's all snatched away from you and you're left with your head in a spin.

None of it forgives abuse, domestic violence, drug abuse, or any of the fan exploitation or the stuff that has come out about him. But I feel like, I understand the lack of coping. I understand the mental health crisis and the drug spiral and the way that he died. I feel like he didn't have that foundation or genetic disposition that perhaps Niall had, who seems a grounded lad with a supportive family and small circle and a whole life and business and identity away from his fame. It's desperately sad.

A great post.
100% this and I identify with all of what you shared about yourself

 

[Serene Serena]

His family’s statement, as desperately sad as it is, does anyone else get the feeling that there are going to be some awful tragic revelations coming out over the next few days? It was the prominent use of the word “brave” in their statement.

I think they are referring to his mental health battle and his addictions.