Liam Payne #6

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I hate to say but I doubt it will work. The pictures would have been saved by lord knows how many people and do/will still appear on gore/death sites. The family of Nikki Catsouras or 'Porsche Girl' who lost control of her dad's car and went smack bang into a toll booth, fought for years to get the crime scene pictures of her remains taken down. Admittedly they are harder to find now but if you know where to look, you will easily get them. Sadly Liam's will be the same.
Gore/death sites? Are these common?
 
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Gore/death sites? Are these common?
Yes. Lots of them are like historic though you don’t tend to have modern celeb deaths on them, not that I go on them tbh and I can’t remember the name of the one I went on for the life of me but i remember a thread on here listed one as it had some historic crime scene on there which actually was interesting and not too graphic but I know it had threads that were like JFK morgue etc and weird stuff like that.
 
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A lot of gore sites have gone now. Rotten dot com and Liveleak don’t exist anymore as far as I know. Perhaps all the grotesque stuff has migrated to the dark web? At least Bear won’t be able to easily see photos of his dad on his last day.
 
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It's just taken me two clicks to get to them, I'm afraid. God bless them for trying, but they're out there now. Although they'll probably be able to limit their availability/keep them off the top results in searches, I very much doubt they'll ever get rid of them completely.
 
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A lot of gore sites have gone now. Rotten dot com and Liveleak don’t exist anymore as far as I know. Perhaps all the grotesque stuff has migrated to the dark web? At least Bear won’t be able to easily see photos of his dad on his last day.
Reddit has lots of stuff sadly, still
 
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Reddit has lots of stuff sadly, still
The kind of people that search for gore worry me. Life can be tough enough, without actively looking for stuff to be horrified by. I remember someone showing me a video clip of an American politician who was facing accusations of corruption or something along those lines, and towards the end of the clip, he ended his life on camera. I was absolutely sickened - not just that someone had filmed it and uploaded it, but that another person thought it would be fine to show me. I still feel upset by it and that was years and years ago now.

I hope Bear is surrounded by enough love and support as time goes by, where he doesn't feel the need to seek out actual photographic evidence of his dad's passing. Liam deserves to be remembered with love and respect. He was very very unwell towards the end of his life, and it's so sad that people that didn't know him, will remember him for that and not the good that he did, and the funny, kind, warm, friendly, engaging, talented man he actually was, underneath the horror of addiction.
 
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yeah thats not how the internet works, you can’t just scrub an image.

doing all that legal stuff is just what families do because they’re grieving (not to be insensitive but it’s the truth)

maybe scrubs it from the “top layer”’of the internet e.g. mainstream websites like facebook or instagram

4chan is the sort of place it would be, not the dark web. nobody on the dark web is doing things like looking at dead pics of celebrities lol

side note I feel sorry for Kate Cassidy, people who don’t even know Liam act like she doesn’t have a right to remember him. so utterly bizarre
 
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I have no idea what people look for on the dark web and I hope I remain ignorant of this until the day I die.
I feel sorry for Kate too :(
 
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side note I feel sorry for Kate Cassidy, people who don’t even know Liam act like she doesn’t have a right to remember him. so utterly bizarre
I feel for her too. She can’t do right for doing wrong - if she posts anything suggesting she’s with someone then she gets jumped on and attacked, if she posts about remembering him then people say she’s doing it for attention. She was in an awful position when she was with him
 
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Liam’s family have succeeded in getting images of his last day removed from the internet

Liam Payne's family fought internet giants to remove pics of singer's body for sake of son, Bear

Link not working, it’s on the Daily Mirror site.
That article is misleading. They've managed to remove the image of his body from social media and Google, but it's not like anyone is going to go through every single post from the past two years, and every single post to come for eternity. It was probably back on X within minutes of it being removed. And the other images, like the bloodstained items and the footage of him being carried by his arms and legs, are still everywhere. Thankfully haven't seen the fool pic screenshot anywhere other than the DM, so hopefully they dealt with that one, too.

I've said it before, if Liam had died in the US, all the crime scene pictures and the full autopsy report would have been published. It happened with Aaron Carter. And, depending on the state, his family wouldn't have been able to do a thing about it.
 
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I wonder if the family maybe took pics themselves (in the chapel of rest) or bits and bobs around his passing that wasnt the extreme ones.
So then one day when Bear is curious late teen, young adult age maybe..(which he will be as all children are id imagine if their dad was an international popstar etc) so then they can sit him down. Explain and show him at peace in the chapel as a way to prevent him then feeling he needs to find images himself? Eliminating then the chance of coming across the awful ones online, as that curiousity has been answered.
 
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The kind of people that search for gore worry me. Life can be tough enough, without actively looking for stuff to be horrified by. I remember someone showing me a video clip of an American politician who was facing accusations of corruption or something along those lines, and towards the end of the clip, he ended his life on camera. I was absolutely sickened - not just that someone had filmed it and uploaded it, but that another person thought it would be fine to show me. I still feel upset by it and that was years and years ago now.

I hope Bear is surrounded by enough love and support as time goes by, where he doesn't feel the need to seek out actual photographic evidence of his dad's passing. Liam deserves to be remembered with love and respect. He was very very unwell towards the end of his life, and it's so sad that people that didn't know him, will remember him for that and not the good that he did, and the funny, kind, warm, friendly, engaging, talented man he actually was, underneath the horror of addiction.
I went through a (very short) phase of looking at gore sites when my Dad was dying. In retrospect I think it was a form of self-harm, and some of the regular posters on those sites are definitely really mentally unwell. A poster from the site I used to visit went on to be a mass shooter. 😔

The clip you're talking about was Bud Dwyer - not that it helps much, but I don't think anyone deliberately set out to document what he did. It was a press conference of him submitting his resignation, and was being filmed for that reason, I believe. If memory serves me correctly, he did it because it was the only way his family would get death benefits once he lost his job.
 
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The kind of people that search for gore worry me. Life can be tough enough, without actively looking for stuff to be horrified by. I remember someone showing me a video clip of an American politician who was facing accusations of corruption or something along those lines, and towards the end of the clip, he ended his life on camera. I was absolutely sickened - not just that someone had filmed it and uploaded it, but that another person thought it would be fine to show me. I still feel upset by it and that was years and years ago now.

I hope Bear is surrounded by enough love and support as time goes by, where he doesn't feel the need to seek out actual photographic evidence of his dad's passing. Liam deserves to be remembered with love and respect. He was very very unwell towards the end of his life, and it's so sad that people that didn't know him, will remember him for that and not the good that he did, and the funny, kind, warm, friendly, engaging, talented man he actually was, underneath the horror of addiction.
off topic but twitter is a hive for it and you have no choice, like there’s zero reason for it to ever hit my algorithm yet I’ll be reading on like BBUK hashtag swiping and then someone being shot comes up - I think we’re awfully slowly becoming desensitised to traumatic things because of social media.
 
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I have no idea what people look for on the dark web and I hope I remain ignorant of this until the day I die.
I feel sorry for Kate too :(
I watched a clip earlier of Kate speaking about how she found out, it was heartbreaking.
(His friend called her and said he'd fallen, and she assumed a fall with maybe a broken rib)
 
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I wonder if the family maybe took pics themselves (in the chapel of rest) or bits and bobs around his passing that wasnt the extreme ones.
So then one day when Bear is curious late teen, young adult age maybe..(which he will be as all children are id imagine if their dad was an international popstar etc) so then they can sit him down. Explain and show him at peace in the chapel as a way to prevent him then feeling he needs to find images himself? Eliminating then the chance of coming across the awful ones online, as that curiousity has been answered.
With respect, this is an extremely naive take. B isn't going to wait until he's an older teen/young adult to Google his dad and/or how he died. He's, what, 10 now? He's probably searched for Liam more times than Cheryl's aware of. That'll only increase as he gets more freedom online and irl. I think this is more to do with preventing B from seeing the image now, during normal scrolling, like an "I'm missing dad, I'm going to search for some pictures" moment and stumbling on it that way. He probably already knows that picture exists; kids aren't stupid and they overhear more than they let on. If he's determined to find it, he will. I don't blame them for trying to limit his exposure, though.

As far as taking pictures in the chapel of rest, I very much doubt they'd do that. There's likely to have been many pictures taken of his body (legitimately by the police and during his postmortem) that the family wouldn't want getting out, they're not going to risk taking more themselves. Also, a dead body is a dead body, no matter how you try and dress it up. They often look worse in pictures than in real life.
 
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Cheryl and the family have always protected Bear, I don't doubt that no matter what he sees, they'll handle it well.
 
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With respect, this is an extremely naive take. B isn't going to wait until he's an older teen/young adult to Google his dad and/or how he died. He's, what, 10 now? He's probably searched for Liam more times than Cheryl's aware of. That'll only increase as he gets more freedom online and irl. I think this is more to do with preventing B from seeing the image now, during normal scrolling, like an "I'm missing dad, I'm going to search for some pictures" moment and stumbling on it that way. He probably already knows that picture exists; kids aren't stupid and they overhear more than they let on. If he's determined to find it, he will. I don't blame them for trying to limit his exposure, though.

As far as taking pictures in the chapel of rest, I very much doubt they'd do that. There's likely to have been many pictures taken of his body (legitimately by the police and during his postmortem) that the family wouldn't want getting out, they're not going to risk taking more themselves. Also, a dead body is a dead body, no matter how you try and dress it up. They often look worse in pictures than in real life.
I have seen enough over the years and never understood the 'they seem like they are just sleeping' thing so many say. Within twenty four hours, things start happening that aren't pretty. Add to that, it would be the last time they saw a loved one and that would stick as a memory which can screw people up. I get why some would do it but for me, it's a no.
 
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I actually think the wider issue with Liam is the days leading up also being just as damaging because it’s so clear now he was not ok and on drugs. There’s so much he can google and see how troubled Liam was in the months leading up to this.

That’s if he even does that, as far as I know he was very much an absent father and it may be that he has not much of an interest in Liam as he grows older
 
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I actually think the wider issue with Liam is the days leading up also being just as damaging because it’s so clear now he was not ok and on drugs. There’s so much he can google and see how troubled Liam was in the months leading up to this.

That’s if he even does that, as far as I know he was very much an absent father and it may be that he has not much of an interest in Liam as he grows older
Agreed. There’s been a bit of evangelising his involvement with Bear before his death. Obviously I’m sure he called and saw him more privately than the public was aware of but Liam was either in rehab or living in the US in the years before he died. When he was with Kate and Maya he was rarely in the UK. The details are hazy but I seem to remember Cheryl saying she took the vast majority of parenting duties publicly too. That’s not to say he can’t grow up to have a connection to his father or that it wouldn’t be a devastating loss, but I think there’s an element of fans believing he’ll carry the flame of some sort when he’s older and that might not be the case, which he’d be entitled to. Point being, Liam was a complicated person with complicated issues.
 
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