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Also, regarding your last paragraph it sounds a bit like you think the couple shouldn't have made this public - as you seem to have implied they should have just text their friends. Apologies if that's not what you're saying.
sort of what I’m saying, that’s more akin to me evolving day-by-increasing day into my Grumpy Old Man era and complaining about the fact people feel the need to attention-seek and treat social media like their friend, instead of their actual friends!
 
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sort of what I’m saying, that’s more akin to me evolving day-by-increasing day into my Grumpy Old Man era and complaining about the fact people feel the need to attention-seek and treat social media like their friend, instead of their actual friends!
I get what you're saying, but I also understand the need to share something like that, because I know if someone refused to paint a room for me solely because I'm gay my reaction would be "WTF?!" and I'd feel the need to share it in a "can you believe this?" type of way. :D
 
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I get what you're saying, but I also understand the need to share something like that, because I know if someone refused to paint a room for me solely because I'm gay my reaction would be "WTF?!" and I'd feel the need to share it in a "can you believe this?" type of way. :D
Sure, but for me by 2023 standards I just dont agree! It’s something you share with friends, not announce on public social media to gain attention! And if not to gain attention, why post publicly? I am not a social media user though, as I think you aren’t too, and the mindset is just set in a different way !
 
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Sure, but for me by 2023 standards I just dont agree! It’s something you share with friends, not announce on public social media to gain attention! And if not to gain attention, why post publicly? I am not a social media user though, as I think you aren’t too, and the mindset is just set in a different way !
But I think there's a distinction between wanting attention for yourself and wanting attention for homophobia to raise awareness of it.

If they hadn't shared their experience we wouldn't be talking about it now and I think I'd rather know that this sort of thing is going on, because then it can be used as evidence that homophobia does still exist. I know we're all aware of that, but plenty of people act like the UK is now a liberal utopia where homophobia and other forms of prejudice just don't happen.
 
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But I think there's a distinction between wanting attention for yourself and wanting attention for homophobia to raise awareness of it.

If they hadn't shared their experience we wouldn't be talking about it now and I think I'd rather know that this sort of thing is going on, because then it can be used as evidence that homophobia does still exist. I know we're all aware of that, but plenty of people act like the UK is now a liberal utopia where homophobia and other forms of prejudice just don't happen.
i understand where you’re coming from and agree to an extent with you This may be just my prejudice towards social media in general, the negativity it has introduced into life, and the types of people that use it. I’d like to think it was coming from a place of “oh, this is something gay people should be aware of and not pay money to this business” rather than “lets Post this and see if it goes viral!”. “Going viral” is practically a job title these days to earn easy, extra money and attention.
 
i understand where you’re coming from and agree to an extent with you This may be just my prejudice towards social media in general, the negativity it has introduced into life, and the types of people that use it. I’d like to think it was coming from a place of “oh, this is something gay people should be aware of and not pay money to this business” rather than “lets Post this and see if it goes viral!”. “Going viral” is practically a job title these days to earn easy, extra money and attention.
I do get what you mean and Tattle is effectively a site that calls out social media attention seekers, so I think most of us here are aware of the shameless grifting that goes on and how annoying it is.

But on the other hand, I thought they looked like a normal gay couple from the photo I saw on the article (which I assume the media have lifted from Facebook profiles, as they tend to do) and I thought it was nice to see a young gay couple who'd bought a house and are just living their lives together. I'm not normally a softy like that. :p
 
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I do get what you mean and Tattle is effectively a site that calls out social media attention seekers, so I think most of us here are aware of the shameless grifting that goes on and how annoying it is.

But on the other hand, I thought they looked like a normal gay couple from the photo I saw on the article (which I assume the media have lifted from Facebook profiles, as they tend to do) and I thought it was nice to see a young gay couple who'd bought a house and are just living their lives together. I'm not normally a softy like that. :p
Hey listen, being able to buy a house whether you’re gay or straight or bisexual or trans is a massive achievement in 2023, it should not be, but sadly is..

Agree with the Tattle connection, the users on this site are more open to these kind of grifts. Not saying that this is for sure but I’ve seen many topics on here (even just the past week or so as an example) that started out as one thing and ended up turning into completely into another
 
I do get what you mean and Tattle is effectively a site that calls out social media attention seekers, so I think most of us here are aware of the shameless grifting that goes on and how annoying it is.

But on the other hand, I thought they looked like a normal gay couple from the photo I saw on the article (which I assume the media have lifted from Facebook profiles, as they tend to do) and I thought it was nice to see a young gay couple who'd bought a house and are just living their lives together. I'm not normally a softy like that. :p
Slight tangent, but I love the current National Lottery advert ('We've won and I've lost the ticket') for similar reasons, it's portraying a lovely relationship.
 
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Slight tangent, but I love the current National Lottery advert ('We've won and I've lost the ticket') for similar reasons, it's portraying a lovely relationship.
I LOVE THAT ADVERT! When I first saw it I gasped (lol) As it was so nice and lovely. But (in pure and negative me fashion lol) I instantly thought “how cynical to place such emotional baggage LGB rights on gambling lol”.

Here it is for those that haven’t seen it: beautiful 😍



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Lol I just watched what I linked to, didn’t realise it was an extended version of the advert, had never seen it before in full and have made myself emotional now all over again for the evening lol
 
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Slight tangent, but I love the current National Lottery advert ('We've won and I've lost the ticket') for similar reasons, it's portraying a lovely relationship.
Yes that's a sweet advert. ❤

I hadn't seen that full version either @HockyRorror - thanks for posting!
 
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Indeed! I suspect it's a more orthodox church, as most C of E priests probably wouldn't advise a painter decorator to refuse services to gay people. I'm not even sure a Catholic priest would.

I was raised Catholic and the main message was always that we should love our fellow neighbour. I suspect most priests would say that doing a job for gay person doesn't mean you automatically approve of their "lifestyle" and therefore there's no reason not to take the job on.

After all, she was being asked to paint a room one colour - there were no rainbows or political messages!
Would suspect its possibly a Baptist sort of church, certainly the American Baptists are very intolerant, in contrast the Catholic Church Pope Francis says gay people should be welcomed and respected not marginalised and discriminated against.
 
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I was reading about Aaron Ramsdale, an Arsenal footballer, calling out homophobia in the sport. He's not gay himself, but he has a brother who's gay, so it's closer to home than for most people.

Of course, he's getting the usual people telling him to stick to sport, but I have respect for someone who does more than a bit of tutting when they hear homophobia. Actively calling it out and shining a light on it is a good thing in my opinion.

 
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Good for him - can’t have been an easy decision knowing the backlash he’d get from some quarters. There’s more of his story here where he talks about his admiration for his brother https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/aaron-ramsdale-premier-league-arsenal-soccer-england
But that’s not the bravest thing he’s done. That’s not why I admire him. My brother is gay, and he’s lived his life in an open and authentic way since he went off to school. I’m so proud to say he’s my brother. I haven’t talked about it before, but with everything going on in football right now, I thought it was important to mention. Oliver is a lot like me, in many ways. He’s a regular bloke. Loves football. Loves knocking about with his mates. Loves the Gunners. He’s proud of me, and I’m really proud of him.
 
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Good for him - can’t have been an easy decision knowing the backlash he’d get from some quarters. There’s more of his story here where he talks about his admiration for his brother https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/aaron-ramsdale-premier-league-arsenal-soccer-england
But that’s not the bravest thing he’s done. That’s not why I admire him. My brother is gay, and he’s lived his life in an open and authentic way since he went off to school. I’m so proud to say he’s my brother. I haven’t talked about it before, but with everything going on in football right now, I thought it was important to mention. Oliver is a lot like me, in many ways. He’s a regular bloke. Loves football. Loves knocking about with his mates. Loves the Gunners. He’s proud of me, and I’m really proud of him.
It's a great article and refreshing for him to open up in that way. He seems like a really decent guy.

As he says in the article, he won't get through to the trolls (sadly) but that's still not a reason to keep quiet. Good on him.
 
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👈 daydreamer, in case you missed it posts 925-965 in this thread already discuss in detail this point about the gay couple refusing to name the bigoted painter (something of an 'extremist element' herself, one could argue).
 
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👈 daydreamer, in case you missed it posts 925-965 in this thread already discuss in detail this point about the gay couple refusing to name the bigoted painter (something of an 'extremist element' herself, one could argue).
Hello Owl

Yes thank you I did see people have discussed it previously
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Has this man helped or harmed LGB community in Malaysia?

He has done a similar stunt in Dubai 2019 this is a pattern of purposeful provocation

The views of Malaysians in article below:

 
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Hello Owl

Yes thank you I did see people have discussed it previously
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Has this man helped or harmed LGB community in Malaysia?

He has done a similar stunt in Dubai 2019 this is a pattern of purposeful provocation

The views of Malaysians in article below:

The people quoted in the article sound quite insufferable tbh (like one of them calling homophobia a white colonial import as if it’s Matty Healy’s fault 🤣 - you live in a strict Islamic Sharia law culture that hates women children and gays. People get public lashings there ffs.) I think they’re just mad the concert ended early.

As far as I know, Matty Healy has kissed men on stage on numerous occasions in a lot of countries. He said he wouldn’t have booked the concert in Malaysia had he done his research and known in advance homosexuality was illegal there. He was making a point, and its highlighted to the world that homosexuality is illegal in Malaysia. They are one of the most popular bands in the world, and have been banned from the country because they took a stand against homophobia. How is it a bad thing? These homophobic governments/cultures deserve zero respect from the rest of the world. Not enough powerful wealthy people stand up to them, most of them just collect their cheque so I applaud him.
 
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