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AlwaysScience

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If becoming a father the first time wasn’t reason enough for Brian to do whatever is necessary to beat his obesity, I guess nothing is. Reminds me of the people who refused the COVID 19 vaccines who ended up hospitalized. Doctors I follow online shared that many of their unvaccinated hospitalized patients were begging for the vaccine once they realized they might die. Of course that was too late for them.
 
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Make sense of it!

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as I recall Jessica has been working during treatment...I remember her mentioning work.I may be off on that but remember thinking that was tough given how she felt physically and mentally.Brian is not working as I understand it.
Jessica has continued to work throughout her cancer journey, she has stated this many times.
 
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Marchonegypt

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One thing I found interesting in the "Live" is the absence of "super chats" where you can ask a question and make a donation. I have watched their lives before and they took in significant donations...some of which YT takes but a nice profitable hour. I saw the "super chat" was enabled but don't recall any coming in. I think the motivation for a "live" is getting those chats rolling in. Maybe I am all off on that but what comes to my mind when I see a creator doing lives.
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Agree 100%. As some of those viewers were talking about "on line" shower I thought to my self how many family and friends showers I have gone to and I certainly would have to pass on one for a stranger online!!!!
I am getting more and more sick of all of this!
 
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TryingMyBest

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I just listened to the most recent live, l got this uneasy impression they are going to become "family vloggers" they indicated they will be including Elsie in videos and do content about and with Elsie.
I have no doubt that they will include the baby in their videos.
 
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Turaj

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Went back to reread the thread under the video and it does sound like they've pursued other opinions regarding risks to Tess. Honestly, I think what surprised me most was Brian and Jessica's precarious health situation. I don't know. I suppose you can't live like that. You know...full of the "what ifs". Just found the timing of the announcment coupled with the previous vids unusual.
I too found the timing noteworthy and it seems they are searching for content.
 
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Cornelia

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I think it was Jessica who mentioned that they have been able to "scrape together the funds" so far for this process. That implies that to keep moving on with more plans will be financially challenging. Again we have a couple with one working parent...I don't know how they are doing this.
could be the rest of the money they’ve got from their gfm (for Jessica’s medical bills, if I’m not mistake). If it’s the case, I thought she said she will spend the remaining money on something related to cancer, good cause, charity or research.

in any case, the thought of Brian‘s spermatozoa swimming inside someone’s body who’s not Jessica, grosses me out so so so much.
 
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Turaj

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I wonder if the second embryo would have been implanted and not have been successful, would they have wanted Tess to try all over again for the third embryo? Perhaps it was for the best that the second embryo had degraded and couldn't be implanted.
no question at all in my mind that Tess would have done it again. No question.
 
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riley123

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Another recent response on a YT comment. I didn't realize their last video was 6 months ago.

7 days ago
We are still alive and kicking. We hope to post an update soon.
 
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mayday mayday

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So ... they were very close to starting the process of locating a non-Tess surrogate. Ummm ... how were they planning to cough the $50,000 (or more) in cold hard cash to provide to the surrogate as well as the additional money for the agency/attorney fees? Don't they have a mortgage? What about hospital copays for both of them? Are those all paid off? Their car must have a bajillion miles racked up what with all the driving they do, back and forth between MO, MN and OH. I just don't understand how they have all this money just sitting around to be able to pay for a surrogate (as well as the cost to raise another child.) But hey hey hey Tess is here to save the day (and save the Krocks a lot a lot a lot of bucks). And just think, there are two Krocksicles waiting to be implanted ...
 
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LeonorG

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I think it looks disgusting 🤢 Not sure why they posted it if it's old.
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Although they do seem to post less snd less since they got their plaque and now the baby. Not bothered with the people that supported Jessica through her cancer battle. They will be back as soon as the cancer returns!
'Although they do seem to post less snd less since they got their plaque and now the baby. Not bothered with the people that supported Jessica through her cancer battle. They will be back as soon as the cancer returns!'

What exactly do you want them to do? You criticise them when they (cancer youtubers in general) post and claim they are exploiting their cancer and you also criticise them when they don't post and suggest they are ungrateful. Is there anyone you don't feel bitter about? I'm glad they are living their life away from youtube.
 
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Saydee

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I hope Brian doesn't have a recurrence after his nephrectomy. Life with just one kidney will mean he needs to look after it.
Sadly I see so many younger people with RCC have a recurrence a few years down the line. RCC is very sneaky type of cancer.

I'm not excited about the fact that he may be stage 1. His prognosis will depend on if there's been microvascular invasion, if the tumour can be removed with clear margins, where about the tumour is sitting (which pole), how close the tumour is to the renal vein. The biopsy states clear cell RCC , but the tumour itself may contain papillary cells as well as clear cell.

My husband was grade 3 too.
It's a sneaky cancer. Why is RCC sneaky? There's no markers for this cancer, it doesn't show in blood tests. Many patients don't show any symptoms at all. RCC is resistant to chemotherapy and radiotherapy. Treatment is immunotherapy or tyrosine kinase inhibitors (tablets taken daily but the cancer becomes resistant to tki's quickly). It often takes years for metastatic spread to show up on scans because it's a slow growing cancer with slow dividing cells.
Many patients (even stage 1, grade 1's) can be living their life after nephrectomy feeling they have been cured, and bam 4 - 5 years down the line a lung nodule or bone met appears, despite them having clear margins.

I hope Brian's oncologist will look into mutations. Personally, I think doing a biopsy was too much of a risk. Biopsies carry risks of seeding. Oncologists say that there's only a slim risk of seeding @ 1%, but someone is that 1%. If the tumour/mass had to come out anyway, it would have been sent to the pathology lab.
 
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Petro48

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Well the Krock's read Tattle. In their last video, they quoted part of my post from Feb 2nd, (re: scar tissue).
 
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ladyt7087

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The more I see, the more I'm convinced there's something really off about this couple, especially Jessica. Her latest comments about needing to give embryos a chance at life are off the rails. And her stuffed animal that she treats as if it were a living thing. Sorry, but she is freaky and weird to me.
 
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Saydee

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As a 2 time cancer victim/survivor/patient those little nodules are always concerning. I have one in my left lung and every scan I'm terrified it has grown. Last time it said it was calcified and no more worries.
Great news that its calcified :) Fantastic sign.
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New video is up....

I hope Jessicas small spots are nothing sinister. Many of us have small spots/nodules which are nothing sinister, but its great that they are being monitored. Jessica is looking much much better in herself.
 
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TickTickTick

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Why won't the baby know her 'actual' mother? Jessica is currently NED and is the biological mother, her cousin is the gestational carrier.
True, I misspoke. The cousin is 500 miles away. I guess I just hate this thing of surrogate babies, they're treated like a new puppy- exciting etc! But even a puppy stays with its mum until it's weaned...

Oh, and I was having a joking "Meghan Markle" moment with "are the dogs ok". Stupid of me, been on another thread too long! I don't really think anything is wrong with them. Though it's possible they'd don't get walked much?

We had some neighbours where the husband was dying, and they got a kitten from the SPCA to be company for the wife when the chap died. Now that seems a better idea to me than grifting a baby from someone.

Call me old-fashioned, possums.
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They totally WILL film that baby.
 
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Turaj

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True. He still is morbidly obese.
I think plant based eating is admirable and I wish I was that disciplined. I'm a vegetarian that can't give up cheese unfortunately. I don't think it's the way to avoid cancer.
Not sure why but so many on YT and social media that get cancer seem to have diets such as "plant based" etc. Does make one wonder. I think the key may be to make sure your diet has lots of plant type foods but maybe not to the exclusion of other food groups? Do people that eat this way maybe enjoy their sweets way more than the average? I mean the link with sugar and cancer is real...that is a fact.
 
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Turaj

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They asked the question how much would you pay for a pdf cookbook by Brian Krock? I say nothing.
 
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AlwaysScience

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Tess has replied to some comments and has said they got input from doctors and were told it would not be highly dangerous for Tess to carry another pregnancy.
I‘m fine with trusting her on that, But I had to unsubscribe. The Krocks choosing to have a second child with the big medical risks they both have is so upsetting that I can’t follow them anymore.
 
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