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I am late to this party but I saw Kate mentioned in another thread and her story sounded familiar. I heard her on a podcast recently but I can’t for the life of me think of which one it was. I remember being really empathetic to her story at first then I ended up being really sceptical by the end. I was disappointed that there was no questioning of her condition and the “cure”.

I’ll go back and read from page 1 now.
Was it the Zoe marshall podcast?
 
No not Zoe Marshall as I’ve never listened to that one. I’ve just done a search and she’s been on heaps but I can’t find the one. Frustrating.
 
I followed a woman who had Stage 4 colon cancer and not long before she died, she threw a hail mary pass and, of course, when to one of the Hope4Cancer centers in Mexico - the one in Tijuana. She suffered through the juicing and coffee enemas in her final weeks and of course, spent $50,000 or whatever that her husband and two small daughters could surely used. She was an Emmy-nominated hair stylist. Went to the Mexican clinic in August - died the following January. There's a German clinic as well. Kate's encouraging many more of these sad stories.
Was this Jessie Lee (imbosslee) on TT? Maybe not but her story was very similar
 
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My ex-husband was diagnosed with brain cancer and was able to access his super. There was a lot of accompanying paperwork to verify the diagnosis. It took 7 weeks for the money to hit his account. He owed a tax bill they took that out first and he owed over 60 grand in child support but that was written off by the CSA. He appealed it saying he needed it more than our children because they were all in there 20s and 30s. They are pretty quick on turn around when a person doesn't have long left.
 
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Yeah I went on a wee deep dive also, and she’s only mentioned the radiation on her hip which would have been for pain relief not curative. She’s said many times nothing was offered, no chemo or radiation or anything. I thought it odd they said they found necrotic tissue in where the brain Mets were without radiation but I guess the immunotherapy can kill tumours and cause that.

Also, she had a pal called Donna Nottage also who had brain cancer, when it recurred she was offered 10 rounds of radiation and immunotherapy, sadly she died not long after so I think you’re right @KrittyKat , it does seem to be palliative.
 
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Was this Jessie Lee (imbosslee) on TT? Maybe not but her story was very similar
No, her name was Meagan Herrera-Schaff.

But there are so many sad stories - probably most people who go to that clinic are desperate and have few options left.
 
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I know other people have already gone down the Kate M rabbit hole, but I’m pretty new to looking a little closer at her story (might be a resulting of binge watching Apple Cider Vinegar and listening to (and now watching Scamanda). Something about her story just doesn’t sit quite right for me

- the shifting time line of, at her initial diagnosis, how long she was told she would live (shifts from 4 to 18 months)

- I came across this (see first two screen shots) from crfpevents IG page from August 2023 where she lists all her cancers from her original diagnosis and then says that she had ten rounds of radiation and targeted therapy (alectinib) because she has a gene mutation. I don’t recall her ever mentioning her radiation therapy?

- I hate to say it, but for someone who was diagnosed with terminal cancer and multiple tumours throughout her body, she looks very, very healthy. Cancer eats you up from the inside out. You look and feel like tit.

- according to social blade, she’s deleted posts from her IG. That’s a red flag for me that she’s trying to cover her tracks.

- there’s been no further mention of her book (was there meant to be a movie too??) despite getting an advance on it. Did too much of her story not line up and the publisher got cold feet??

The timeline of her initial diagnosis and trip to H4C is
- 1st Oct 2018 diagnosis
- she has 10 rounds of radiation plus is put on targeted therapy
- heads off to Mexico on 25th October for three weeks
- 14th Nov has results of tests and scans performed at H4C that, allegedly, show that most of her tumours have disappeared or reduced in size ( it’s interesting that here she uses the word “suspected” eg “I had 7 suspected cancerous lymph nodes”)
-19th Nov - arrives back in Australia where she starts on her regime of at home Iv s etc
Far out. Her and her bull started early. She really loves giving the timelines hey. This is why doctors dont like to give the timelines anymore. Patients take it as a given and run with it.
I love how she does mention "targeted therapy" which can just sound like another buzz word in her long list of grifty treatments. I cant be ducked doing a deep dive but i bet she's never explained it or said "its actually a pharmaceutical drug Im on. Others that you may know of are cytoxic chemotherapies" explain the class of drug or how it works. Say its a TKI it blocks the cancer from growing, nah instead she says the oxygen in her glass coffin is whats stopping it from growing bc 'cancer hates oxygen' cancer also hates a drug that targets and blocks ALKs.
There is also studies that show alectinib reducing brain mets to non detectable. So literally everything this grifter does is pointless. She could have her life back and not be attached to all these stupid machines and have an unnecessary port in her chest if she just stays on the alectinib and accepts its whats give her more life. bleep.
 
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In addition to the medical and timeline inconsistencies in her story, one of the things that was a red flag to me was that on at least two of her trips to Mexico she was bleeping around with a man that she met there and posted pictures of the two of them canoodling to her grid. Now ... seriously … what single mum do you know who has just found out that she has terminal cancer, has left her young daughter in another country to desperately seek out life-saving treatment in Mexico, is just casually hooking up with random men she meets and is posting photographs of the two of them partying on the beach with margaritas in hand and cute little suggestive captions? Like she’s at a naughty hen’s weekend away?
Yuck. She is pure trash. Gofundme paid for a stop off at vancouver too by the looks of her geotag, while leaving her 2 year old at home.
 
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Kate always has been and will be a “fame” chaser. She has been in so many news articles, podcasts, interviews etc. The woman can’t feel alive unless she is made to feel important and special. If she has cancer, it is the Alectinib that is keeping her alive (as others have said here) The H4C and Disco Radiology is because she wants to feel like a superstar in a club no one wants to be part of. I think it’s an added bonus to her that it brings her some extra $$$ and “holidays”
As @somanyteeth said…the H4C stuff is just a waste of time (and a possible perforated bowel) because it’s doing nothing for her cancer. The Rx that she gives no credit to is keeping her alive.
 
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I remember listening to a podcast with oncologist and she said cancer treatments have changed so rapidly, people being diagnosed at different timeframes have different treatment options. Even 18 months ago - treatments have changed since then. It seems like with such amazing advancements in treatment, some types of cancer will become more chronic type conditions people can live with for a very long time. I find it absolutely disturbing Kate knows nothing about her actual cancer and is more convinced by absolute nonsense! She could be doing so much with her platform but it’s clearly to make money and clout for herself. The arrogance to also not plan for her daughter - her statements in podcasts where she just says she doesn’t entertain that idea that she will die and leave her daughter because “she can’t”. Imagine being so arrogant to think just because you don’t want to, you won’t die? What an insult to all the people before you who battled cancer and sadly died. It’s not a matter of willpower ffs.
 
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A couple of (what I think are) interesting bits and pieces

- Malvenan is her married name
- her ex-husband is Lyall Malvenan (she refers to him as Josh in the Georgia Love podcast); he currently works as a Business Development Manager in the Health, Wellness and Fitness. Previously, he worked in Hospital & Health Care, and Staffing and Recruiting, and Human Resources. He's really into EDM.
- Kate has limited internet presence prior to Oct 2018 when her cancer diagnosis became her entire personality (only real references to her online prior to 2018 are via her homewares business).
-her its_not_kates_time IG was started in Oct 2018 with the post attached
 

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A couple of (what I think are) interesting bits and pieces

- Malvenan is her married name
- her ex-husband is Lyall Malvenan (she refers to him as Josh in the Georgia Love podcast); he currently works as a Business Development Manager in the Health, Wellness and Fitness. Previously, he worked in Hospital & Health Care, and Staffing and Recruiting, and Human Resources. He's really into EDM.
- Kate has limited internet presence prior to Oct 2018 when her cancer diagnosis became her entire personality (only real references to her online prior to 2018 are via her homewares business).
-her its_not_kates_time IG was started in Oct 2018 with the post attached
Doesn’t she say he was a druggy etc and up and left her with the baby and has no contact with his family? The way she described his is such that you wouldn’t think he would be holding down a job.
I think she sees his parents, I wonder if when she’s away her daughter is actually with her dad?
 
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Total aside - she was a "celebrated film make up artist" before starting the housewares shop in 2013.

I read the transcript of the Georgia Love Podcast (Oct, 2020)... its a pretty unbelievable tale

- He apparently had/has two kids from a previous relationship.
- they met at a music festival
- Their relationship (according to Kate on the Georgia Love podcast) their relationship started falling apart when she was pregnant with Annabelle (2015).
- Once Annabelle was born (allegedly) Kate found out that he was smoking crack/ice (2016). He (allegedly) admitted to her in around May 2016 that he was smoking; for some reason, she asked him if he wanted her to smoke it with him and she said yes. So she did, thought it was amazing, but then swore to never do it again.
- He then (allegedly) started disappearing for days at a time; was sleeping in his car; lost his job (his resume shows a one month gap in 2016 - between June to August but he goes from one Medical Recruitment Agency to another so....) ; was using prostitutes .
- They decided that they needed a fresh start and he (allegedly) convinced her to sell their house and they moved into a rental property ; he (allegedly) took his share of the house sale ($100k) and in 10 weeks blew through it on drugs , prostitutes and a jet ski.
- She then left him and moved out of the rental; after 6 - 8 weeks he stopped paying rent and was evicted; he went missing and "they" put out a missing persons report on him.
- Later, she bought an apartment; he was working on a building site and came to help her fix the apartment up - but stole tools and money off her. - Allegedly, he hit rock bottom; was living on the streets; using IV drugs; went to rehab twice. In the podcast she says that while she is close to his parents, she has a rule that they are not to talk about him - she doesn't want to know anything about him and she doesn't know where he lives or works.

This is his CV - he's held/is holding down some pretty responsible positions for a drug addict ....
Business Development Manager at Vitality Works - Sanitarium Workplace Health Aug 2022 - Current
Program Director - COVID-19 Vaccination Services at Vanguard Health at Vanguard Health Feb 2019 - May 2022
Program Director - BHP COVID-19 Testing Centres at Vanguard Health Jul 2020 - Oct 2021
General Manager - Recruitment at Vanguard Health Feb 2019 - Jul 2020
Consultant at Recruit 2 Consult Pty Ltd Aug 2016 - Jul 2020
Specialist - PSYCHIATRISTS / FRANZCP - LOCUMS at CC Medical - Healthcare Recruitment Experts Nov 2014 - Jun 2016
Principal Consultant at WF TRUST Apr 2014 - Nov 2014
Principal Consultant at Benson Resourcing Aug 2011 - Mar 2014
Business Development Manager at WorkPac Sep 2010 - Aug 2011
Team Leader - Recruitment at Talent2 Jan 2007 - Sep 2010
Senior Recruitment Consultant at Hays Jan 2004 - Jan 2007

**Based on the photos from her IG and online photos of Lyall Malvernan, they are the same person **
 

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Total aside - she was a "celebrated film make up artist" before starting the housewares shop in 2013.

I read the transcript of the Georgia Love Podcast (Oct, 2020)... its a pretty unbelievable tale

- He apparently had/has two kids from a previous relationship.
- they met at a music festival
- Their relationship (according to Kate on the Georgia Love podcast) their relationship started falling apart when she was pregnant with Annabelle (2015).
- Once Annabelle was born (allegedly) Kate found out that he was smoking crack/ice (2016). He (allegedly) admitted to her in around May 2016 that he was smoking; for some reason, she asked him if he wanted her to smoke it with him and she said yes. So she did, thought it was amazing, but then swore to never do it again.
- He then (allegedly) started disappearing for days at a time; was sleeping in his car; lost his job (his resume shows a one month gap in 2016 - between June to August but he goes from one Medical Recruitment Agency to another so....) ; was using prostitutes .
- They decided that they needed a fresh start and he (allegedly) convinced her to sell their house and they moved into a rental property ; he (allegedly) took his share of the house sale ($100k) and in 10 weeks blew through it on drugs , prostitutes and a jet ski.
- She then left him and moved out of the rental; after 6 - 8 weeks he stopped paying rent and was evicted; he went missing and "they" put out a missing persons report on him.
- Later, she bought an apartment; he was working on a building site and came to help her fix the apartment up - but stole tools and money off her. - Allegedly, he hit rock bottom; was living on the streets; using IV drugs; went to rehab twice. In the podcast she says that while she is close to his parents, she has a rule that they are not to talk about him - she doesn't want to know anything about him and she doesn't know where he lives or works.

This is his CV - he's held/is holding down some pretty responsible positions for a drug addict ....
Business Development Manager at Vitality Works - Sanitarium Workplace Health Aug 2022 - Current
Program Director - COVID-19 Vaccination Services at Vanguard Health at Vanguard Health Feb 2019 - May 2022
Program Director - BHP COVID-19 Testing Centres at Vanguard Health Jul 2020 - Oct 2021
General Manager - Recruitment at Vanguard Health Feb 2019 - Jul 2020
Consultant at Recruit 2 Consult Pty Ltd Aug 2016 - Jul 2020
Specialist - PSYCHIATRISTS / FRANZCP - LOCUMS at CC Medical - Healthcare Recruitment Experts Nov 2014 - Jun 2016
Principal Consultant at WF TRUST Apr 2014 - Nov 2014
Principal Consultant at Benson Resourcing Aug 2011 - Mar 2014
Business Development Manager at WorkPac Sep 2010 - Aug 2011
Team Leader - Recruitment at Talent2 Jan 2007 - Sep 2010
Senior Recruitment Consultant at Hays Jan 2004 - Jan 2007

**Based on the photos from her IG and online photos of Lyall Malvernan, they are the same person **
So if she is lying about him… why wouldn’t she lie about cancer? This is all really bleeping weird…
 
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Wow that is a lot of information.

I assumed he was on the streets the way she spoke of him, and that he had no contact with any of his family? But they do she just refuses information. I wonder how she talks about in him front of their child. She would need to talk about him especially if she doesn't see her dad at all. You can't keep your kids in a vaccuum

This made me lol though "and in 10 weeks blew through it on drugs , prostitutes and a jet ski."
 
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No, her name was Meagan Herrera-Schaff.

But there are so many sad stories - probably most people who go to that clinic are desperate and have few options left.
Too many unfortunately :( I also follow @gina.urlich who oddly enough is the founder of nourished nutrition which she owned/founded before being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer. She’s always ate clean & organic… which proves food isn’t everything, and some people just get dealt an unlucky card. She still went to that Mexico retreat recently too
 
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Wowee @KrittyKat thats great info.
The way she talks about him I thought he'd be nearly dead in a gutter.
I wonder how he'd feel if he listened to the tit she was saying.
Im guessing he isnt a saint if he isnt allowed shared custody or visitation but if his LinkedIn is correct at least he holds down a job. Wonder what he's really like and if he does want to see his daughter bur kate blocks it
 
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She regularly says “I’m not a Doctor; I’m not an Oncologist; I'm not giving medical advice – I’m just telling you what saved my life” and then proceeds to offer completely untrue opinions on the action of substances (CBD is the Cure for cancer; Cancer is a cold disease so you need full body hyperthermia to kill the cells …. To name a few). This whole narrative that people like Kate have, along the lines of "Doctors don't want you to get well; they've known the cure to cancer for years but aren't telling people" ...is just such utter nonsense and so incredibly insulting to all the researchers and health professionals out there ... within which would be a large number who, if they have not had cancer themselves, would have friens or family who have - so to suggest that they are "hiding" cancer cures from people is just absurd. If H4C actually had managed to cure cancer, it would be front page bleeping news - on both MSM and Research journals.

This podcast was recorded approx 1 year before the episode that she did with Georgia Love - it was done by a friend of GL's so I presume thats how Georgia heard about Kates story.



Monday, November 11, 2019
….. I’ve highlighted in bold discrepancies in her story.
  • She did a degree in fine art/Photography back in the UK and came to Australia with a then boyfriend, backpacking, when she was 20 (approx. 1998). She met Lyall when she was 31.
  • She says that she was trained in Australia in Film Make up by Peter Frampton - who won a 1995 Oscar for Make up for Braveheart in 1996, after which he retired, relocated to the Gold Coast and set up The Frampton Institute of Cinemagraphic Make-up. Rather than saying that she did course with Peter, Kate describes it as “she trained by Peter Frampton”
  • One of her first jobs was when she went back to London to work on one of the Harry Potter films in London (IMDB lists all make up staff – both credited and uncredited. There are two Kati/Katy’s that worked on films 6,7, & 8, between 2009 – 2011. Both are still active working film make up artists)
  • She then came back to Australia and mainly worked for in TV and film for Channel 7, Big Borther, I’m a Celebrity get me out of here.
  • She then went to LA and studied there – and did film make up – and taught at an academy of make up in Brisbane.
  • And then in 2013 started homewares business.
  • Lyall is originally from Scotland, but has been here “20 – 30 years”
  • Found out he was smoking ice/methamphetamine 3 weeks after Annabelle was born
  • He was in and out and in and out and in and out of rehab
  • She found out about affairs, and prostitutes and theft; he lost his job
  • When Annabelle was 1 year old, Kate found her on the floor with an ice pipe in her hand
  • This podcast was in 2019 and she says “to this point, he’s been living on the streets, using intravenously. Ice has got him and its very, very sad. We haven’t seem him for two years…..I don’t want to be one of those mums that bags their ex….he was a great man, he was a wonderful man and I still like to think of him in a positive light”
  • Went into a dark place after this – was suicidal and went on anti depressants (had just gone off them the week before this podcast)
  • Still has a relationship with Lyalls parents and her step daughters/Annabel’s half sisters
  • 2018 (age 39) started exercising at the gym 4 – 6 times per week was getting aches and pains (back, shoulder, hip); halfway through the year started coughing blood and was diagnosed with bronchitis. Feet started getting really sore – got prescribed painkillers. Went back to get a script and had a slight pain in the chest – was sent off for lung Xray sans then a CT scan and diagnosis came back as Stage 4 terminal Lung Cancer that’s in the Liver, lymph nodes, ribs, hips, shoulders, spine
  • Says that parent flew from England after her diagnosis (but in a Nov 2018 IG post she says that her Mum and Stepdad arrived on the day of her diagnosis)
  • Was put on a targeted therapy drug and told that this “might give you 18 – 24 months to live” (how many times has she told the story that she had 6 months to live????)
  • Her GP told her to just go home and drink wine (this came about from a conversation where she had gone to her GP and told her GP that she would no longer be drinking because sugar feeds wine, and her GP told her “That’s ridiculous Kate, now’s the time that you should be drinking “
  • She was told by a GP, A radiologist, an oncologist and a lung specialist that there is nothing that they can do for her.
  • So for two very dark days she thought that she was going to die.
  • Bumped into a friend of a friend who told her about Hope for Cancer in Mexico. Went to see a naturopath (who studies oncology) who also mentioned H4C. (I’m sure that she’s said since that it was a “medic at the hospital” who told her about H4C)
  • 3 weeks program that’s $65k
  • Within 3 weeks of being in Mexico the lung tumour had been reduced by 75%; she entered the clinic with 7 cancerous lymph nodes in her throat, after three weeks, 6 had disappeared (She later changes her language here to call them Suspected cancerous lymph nodes) By the time she had her first scan when she returned to Australia, there was no cancer in her lymph nodes.
  • At her first scan back in Australia, the Dr said “wow. This is remarkable.” The Drs put it down to the targeted therapy that they have her own but, according to her, they also said wink/wink/nudge/nudge“ continue whatever you are doing”
  • Interviewer asks her to be clear about the use of her prescribed medication = which sh admits to – but says “I do a whole protocol of medicine, supplements, two different treatments every day ….. I do colonics every week, I do coffee enemas every day; I do four different injections every day…. I take about 20 different supplements, medications and medications, I do juicing , I do infra red saunas, I do full body hyperthermia, I do CBD, I do THC, I’m also on a dog worming protocol which is a blocker for cancer cells … throw it in the pot, and do the lot.
  • “I don’t know what’s working and what’s not, but something is, so I’m going to keep doing the whole damn lot”
  • The week after this interview, she was going to LA to do some TV interviews because people had jumped on her story. One with Good Morning LaLa Land in LA and another couple of interviews as a result of hooking up with a PR lady. This is the episode here https://www.google.com/search?sca_e...ate=ive&vld=cid:394eb895,vid:ckV9jhDlFLM,st:0 18th Oct 2019 on this interview she says that if she had followed just conventional medicine advice, she’d be dead by now. Hope 4 Cancer has kept her alive.
  • One year after her initial diagnosis, she’s never looked or felt healthier and has so much energy
  • All because she’s running a low tox life – daily Vit C and curcumin infusions – no chemicals in her house. Eats organic and vegan.
  • Doesn’t like the word Cancer ; sees herself as a cancer fighter
  • Stays positive by being ignorant about cancer – she knows nothing about it, doesn’t ant to talk to people about it, doesn’t want to attend galas or fundraisers (maybe because she doesn’t want people to question or scrutinise her too closely about her cancer? Also means that if people ask her questions that she doesn’t want to, she can throw her hands up in the air and pleas ignorance)
  • “I don’t want to know about cancer, I just want to know how to fight it”
  • H4C’s aim is to strengthen your immune system to fight the cancer. There’s a lot of “emotional therapy” – my story with losing my husband to a drug addiction; they say that you hold your grief in your lungs so her I am diagnosed with terminal lung cancer [because] I’ve held that all in , that grief and sorrow and sad and anger and resentment – and it bounced around my body like a ping pong ball – so now for me to move forward, I have to heal from that. ….. most people with cancer, something tragic did happen.
  • At the time of the interview, she had already done 3 rounds (of 3 weeks) at H4C – 3 x $65 = $195k; and was about to go back for a fourth round at the expense of H4C (she’d been “very, very, very privileged to be invited back to do a 4th round”) because she’s been advocating for them for a long time…. They can see how much she is “preaching about them and telling everyone about this clinic…. She responds to 20 – 30 messages a day and she directs them all to H4C”
  • Someone told her that “her story smells like Belle Gibson” …. Her response was “hang on; I’ve been completely true and open from the very start, you can see… but a lot of people are very frightened about alternative therapies,.. a lot of people have lost someone to cancer, and they are very angry… and then they see someone winning the fight and they get a bit angry about that”
  • Her followers are her Wolfpack, and they are phenomenal and they have her back and they step in and defend her whenever any naysayers appear.
  • Started her IG because everyone in Burleigh found out about her cancer.
  • Her port (which she has at this point) and her IV’s that she runs at home, are “not legal” she’s not meant to have them/be doing them.
  • She’s invested in a medicinal cannabis company CDA Cannabis Doctors Australia … she’s the first person to be prescribed crystal cannabis, a very pure form, with no THC that she can vape 4 x day .According to Kate “it is know to assist with cancer, it fights cancer cells, to stop the cancer from growing; and she takes it for pain (because she is in a lot of pain); “The cure for cancer was found 85 years ago and its CBD”. . Plus she takes THC at night
  • Full body hyperthermia that raises your body temp to 41 degrees C because it “kills cancer cells”; she does if for two hours and has to have sedation. Cancer is a cold disease and heat kills it “.
  • Her life insurance – so not just her super; she had her life insurance paid out – and that’s allowed her to pay off her apartment (as well as buy – and now sell at significant profit – her beach house/investment property at Hastings Point)
  • The power of positive mindset is everything and the staff at H4C always tell her that sh has the positivity that they have been trying to teach for 20 years …. “Cancer is not going to get me”
  • What has surprised her the most “ The support. The encouragement . The gifts that we’ve been sent from around the world .. from people that we’ve never met”
  • She’s been raising funds and doing charity work to help others to get to H4C – she’s raised over $10,000 but “unfortunately the taxman is onto it now” because she ran it through her business. In 2020 she’ll be setting up a NFP for giving back.. She’s hosted talk nights at her shop for people with cancer who want to reach out;
  • Regrets having done the palliative radiation as she doesn’t think that it did anything and it made her very, very sick
  • Says that prior to her diagnosis she got to the point that she couldn’t walk so she went looking to buy a segway (as didn’t want to be in a wheelchair).
  • She’s become friends with the owners (husband and wife team) of H4C, and is travelling to Morocco with the wife in 2020.
Further information about CDA (the company that she has invested in) https://www.tga.gov.au/news/media-r...leged-unlawful-advertising-medicinal-cannabis

 
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