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Yel

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Solange probably has about 99 reasons to beat him up. (I'm so sorry 👵 )

The weirdest thing about it for me was Beyonce standing there like a sim waiting for an instruction.
 
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nichew

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Can’t stand these two smug cunts!
just had to get that off my chest before I start to read through
 
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whitershadeofpale

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Does anyone else find it weird how they seem to push Blue into the limelight at every opportunity but you never see their twins?
 
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veevee04

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Still out as a united force.

I thought wow, I had no idea Blue Ivy was an adult now. She's 12.

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Blue is one year younger than the girl he raped. I believe her. Beyonce is an idiot for sticking with that ugly mofo. Beyonce you have money why are you with him ? Ugly cheating , raping , violent drug dealer. She reminds me of one of those women who think their gangster boyfriend is cool so regressive.
 
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Blue, North West and Harper Beckham. They’re all the same age and being pushed by their parents. It will be interesting to see how it turns out
 
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Foxvint

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I don't understand why Blue has to get up with Bey and stand there like a lemon while she's accepting her award. Being there at the grammys with her mum and dad should've been more than enough. They're risking market saturation with her. In fact can all the overconfident pampered offspring of celebs stay home in their spiderman jarmies with the nanny on grammys/Oscars night. I don't need to see Alicia Keys annoyingly named toddler waving at Taylor Swift. We're watching for the fashion and who was robbed by who.
 
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I got up at 5am

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I’m sick to death of Blue being pushed into all of our faces. She’s 12, let her be a child instead of having her up on stage. The same people praising her would drag Kim K for North. It’s pathetic. All these celebs need to keep their kids off the stage and let them forgr their own path. I firmly believe the allegations against Jay Z, Beyoncé always seems like drugged up dumbass to me. Her star is fading fast
 
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donutwitch

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I don’t think there are many celebrities that can admit they pushed their kids/exposed their kids to the limelight, it is always explained s something that the kids desperately wanted and basically harangued their parents into it. I don’t believe it, they trademarked her name as soon as she was born and it’s all about extending their brand/legacy, and basically an ego trip to believe they’ve produced these uber-talented star quality kids, rather than it just being done by nepotism. They have exposed that child to fame since she was a toddler, dragging her around award shows, in music videos, and now taking her on world stadium tours to perform on stage . It’s really selfish, a 9-10 year old shouldn’t get to “decide” things like this, it’s hard to find an example of a child star that isn’t totally screwed up. I understand non-rich social-climbing parents pushing their kids into show business far more than 2 billionaires whose great grandchildren won’t need to work a day in their lives if they don’t want to.

I think this red carpet totally exposes their arrogance and delusion, like they can just ignore it until it dies down. P Diddy did the same at first, and now look where he is… 👀
 
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Yel

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I don't think there's much to debate on her intelligence. She's a great performer and vocalist but there's a reason she doesn't give interviews anymore.

She's reliant on a whole team to create and steal stuff to pretend she's some great philosopher. She doesn't want to give interviews and break the illusion.

She's been so dependent on a whole team, which Jay is involved with, to do all her thinking she's not in any position to walk away from it.
 
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Shawads

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I think it’s hella mean to wheel their twelve year old daughter out into the limelight when he’s embroiled in an alleged rape scandal and both of them are mentioned a lot in relation to sexual assault ‘parties’.
They should be protecting her at all costs and keeping her safe from exposure to all of this and from possible repercussions
 
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Angelesque

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Blue Ivy is beautiful, but she’s far too young for that dress. Don’t know why her parents want her to dress as a sexually confident young woman when she’s still got so much of her childhood ahead of her… makes me really sad for her future.

Harper Beckham is being allowed to grow into herself much more naturally and gracefully.
 
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Foxvint

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My understanding of the situation is this. Correct me if I've got anything wrong. The statute of limitations for rape in the US means it now has to be a civil case not a criminal one which Jays lawyers would have advised him of so it was a disingenuous low blow of him to say it should be tried in a criminal court in his statement (I'm paraphrasing).

Demanding the accuser reveal her name was an intimidation tactic. There'd be thousands of Beyhive and Jay fans who'd go for her and dig up every morsel of info on her life in the past 2 decades and try to destroy it. 2 very different cases but look at Nikita Hand. Had her looks, behaviour and motherhood torn apart online. He was giving the nod to his fans to try and find her with that comment.

The optics of calling any alledged victim greedy and cruel are fucking appalling and a terrible PR move. He can't possibly have had any input from the professionals in that statement. That boy from the projects is now an arrogant billionaire who scored the Prince Andrew own goal of bypassing the opportunity to show solidarity with victims of SA. Your wife and kids are not the victim here. The victim is the victim.

Diddy and Jay built their brands on Black Excellence partly to gain immunity from criticism of their behaviour. Easier to say ppl are objecting to young black men being rich and successful than it is to rein in the hedonistic excess where anything you want is available to you- even anothers consent.
 
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WhatwouldPrinnyDo

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Just can’t get my head around why Blue Ivy needs to be included in the line up of dancers, she was in no way good enough (understandably), very stiff and terrified looking some of the time. Fair enough, she might love dancing but then she should be trained in a formal dance troupe and perform with them until she is genuinely good enough to perform on a massive public scale. It’s so jarring how these VERY average kids are given these opportunities based on very little talent ( aka Beckhams/ North West etc).
 
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GalaxyGirl70

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They really are a revolting pair. I never thought she gave birth to Blue Ivy, no one hires out an entire maternity floor unless they've got something to hide. I do think she had the twins though and they're not as "picture perfect" so they're kept out of sight. I hope this will be the end of his career and hers. They're both writing cheques from their egos that their bodies can't cash.
 
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Codiaeum

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She cannot claim songwriting credits, just rewriting a bit doesn’t negate intellectual property rights, so this isn’t something she chose to do. Royalties here meaning streaming revenue, are very difficult due to how the music industry is set up, as rightsholders have deep structures, owning lyrics doesn’t equal getting (all) royalties (I've worked in an industry very adjacent to this so I sadly know way more about music royalties than I ever wanted to know 😂 I promise I have more interesting hobbies). Beyoncé will have needed to request (this is a rather informal process though) to record a cover or make use of samples from Jolene, meaning royalties for melody, performance rights, etc also need to happen - she could have changed every word but the rightsholders of the melody and production would still get their share. If Dolly owns 50% of the lyrics rights and Beyonce owns the other half - but Dolly continues to own 100% of publishing rights, she effectively owns more than Beyonce.
I assume both parties will have come to an agreement that works for both ends - Dolly has refused to give Elvis Presley credit before for a song she wrote and for which he wanted 50%, so it's not like she doesn't know what she is doing.
 
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