Jason Arday #2

[PurvyPanda]

Hugged by heŕ bestie in crime Misan Harriman...another who was shoehorned into a prominent position.

For those who don’t frequent the Harry and Meghan thread, where Missan gets a regular mention as one of their stooges - I call him Nissan Haribo, and he LOVES Comic Sans.

 

[emmer_moans]

Seems there were BLM chants?

Didn't BLM organisers do a runner with the money raised?

 

[Biffy]

I posted upthread about my awful ex who was very like JA in many ways, and from that I think I can guess what the family were thinking.

In my ex's family, my ex was always throwing huge tantrums and threatening suicide whenever he was met with the slightest bit of criticism or not getting his own way. I recognised that these were mostly empty threats, but of course his mother was really worried that he would really do it, so over the years she adapted to accepting anything that kept him happy. Even telling me to be quiet and put up with it while he abused me. Even when I told her he was a serial cheater, she just said that it was his depression and begged me not to leave him. She was just terrified of upsetting him, because his tantrums were terrifying, and she was terrified he would kill himself over the smallest thing. So she just lived inside the lies. She knew factually that he was abusive, but she walked and talked like he was the victim, because that's the fiction she needed to keep him steady.

When people ask why none of Arday's family stopped him from writing this book full of lies - or accuse his wife of coming up with it all - I see this dynamic where behind closed doors, Jason was throwing tantrums and threatening suicide, so the family ended up doing whatever it took to avoid sending him off the rails.

Edit: I don't care when Diane Abbott and the like say he was the nicest person they ever met. Most narcissists are beloved by everyone outside their own families.

That's a very interesting perspective, one I hadn't actually considered. Thank you for sharing it. I hope you're far removed from that awful environment nowadays.

 

[lovesickblues]

I started watching Abbot’s speech and I actually can’t stand it. It’s like a pantomime the way the crowd is acting! The whole thing is such a performative farce. How can anyone be sucked into this?

 

[Valiofthedolls]

That’s exactly what happened. While it’s increasingly common to have to bounce around, it’s certainly not the case that someone would be appointed to and leave more than one ostensibly full-time permanent academic jobs in a ludicrously short space of time, each time with a nonsensical story to explain why. Including that they suddenly realized they had no money because they didn’t gave enough students, but the lady cried when he lost his permanent job on day two.

Plus, for over ten years, he commuted from London to (allegedly) full-time academic jobs in Liverpool, Leeds, Durham (though most of his employment there would have been remote due to the overlap with COVID), unnamed in the book but named elsewhere short-lived Warwick, Glasgow- and despite the job description posted here requiring the appointee to live on campus, commuted to Cambridge. That’s all in his book.

It’s a very, very unusual career path, let alone one that ultimately pitched him up as a Professor and Chair at Cambridge. And that’s without all the other fantasist nonsensical crap.

ETA: I mean, come on…

Spoiler

(Nothing missed here where it jumps after a sentence fragment, I just cut out three pages about the shared appreciation of of tailoring with musicians and actors, and a bleeping suit)

 

[nothanksbabes]

I posted upthread about my awful ex who was very like JA in many ways, and from that I think I can guess what the family were thinking.

In my ex's family, my ex was always throwing huge tantrums and threatening suicide whenever he was met with the slightest bit of criticism or not getting his own way. I recognised that these were mostly empty threats, but of course his mother was really worried that he would really do it, so over the years she adapted to accepting anything that kept him happy. Even telling me to be quiet and put up with it while he abused me. Even when I told her he was a serial cheater, she just said that it was his depression and begged me not to leave him. She was just terrified of upsetting him, because his tantrums were terrifying, and she was terrified he would kill himself over the smallest thing. So she just lived inside the lies. She knew factually that he was abusive, but she walked and talked like he was the victim, because that's the fiction she needed to keep him steady.

When people ask why none of Arday's family stopped him from writing this book full of lies - or accuse his wife of coming up with it all - I see this dynamic where behind closed doors, Jason was throwing tantrums and threatening suicide, so the family ended up doing whatever it took to avoid sending him off the rails.

Edit: I don't care when Diane Abbott and the like say he was the nicest person they ever met. Most narcissists are beloved by everyone outside their own families.

The same with my ex and his ex wife, who I was also friends with (all very amicable, or so it seemed).

He knew she was abusive, to him and to their kids, had stolen from her own children, was a serial adulterer, she'd abandoned them and had a new family with someone else, kidnapped the youngest child, had accused him of all sorts of horrendous things and that basically everything that came out of her mouth was a lie.

The architecture of his entire life was centred around placating her because he was terrified she'd kill herself and he'd be the one to blame, as he was blamed for the abuse and infidelity and for her leaving the kids with him. So rather than set a boundary, he basically colluded with her to keep her happy because it was the only way he could keep her from going off the deep end. She said jump, he said how high. I spent more time than I'd care to admit running round in the middle of the night to prevent another "suicide attempt" because they're always the victim and you're always the perpetrator.

And when she died, prematurely and tragically, after destroying every friendship and relationship she ever had, everyone did what they're doing here, which is flatter their own egos by pontoficating on what a great person she was despite all evidence to the contrary, including her poor kids who'd hardly seen her for years.

It is a mind altering dynamic to be part of but it's very hard to respect anyone who goes along with it (hence why this man is my ex). That said, the price of calling them out is often very high. The only way to win with this type of individual is to not participate at all.

 

[nothanksbabes]

ETA: I mean, come on…

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It's actually tedious. Poor Debs still isn't allowed a personality. The shallowest depiction of the end of a marriage I've ever read.

 

[Troutpout]

She’s completely irresponsible saying that. All this does is drip drip drip poison into the ears of impressional black people, telling them that the world is against them. You want to talk about disproportionate? THIS is disproportionate. You want to know who is oppressing black people - look no further than Diane Abbott and her ilk.

She is downright bleeping dangerous.

 

[FrumpyCat]

Quite an interesting thread on twitter from another academic.

That may be a spoof account. The only academic Philip Swallow I can find is a fictional one from a 1970s satirical novel

 

[ScouseGossip]

That may be a spoof account. The only academic Philip Swallow I can find is a fictional one from a 1970s satirical novel

I thought that, but someone previously mentioned that he's a real academic who uses that pseudonym to protect himself as he's very gender critical. But who knows!

 

[Jelly Bean]

That may be a spoof account. The only academic Philip Swallow I can find is a fictional one from a 1970s satirical novel

That was my first thought. He's a character from a few of David Lodge's Rummidge University novels (very good they are too btw).

 

[Valiofthedolls]

As he wore eye make up I assumed it was the glass skin look that is currently popular.

That’s addressed within the first 20 pages of this nonsensical ghost-written rit. From the time he was born.

 

[Abominatrix]

I started watching Abbot’s speech and I actually can’t stand it. It’s like a pantomime the way the crowd is acting! The whole thing is such a performative farce. How can anyone be sucked into this?

It's the era of the conman, of someone telling open and outright lies but becoming the ducked up banner everyone wants to rally their morals underneath. Their outright lies are waved aside without concern, dismissed as jealous fantasy, as taken out of context, as an attack to whatever bull they're representing.

Funny how all this got out of hand because of Cambridge wanting this man to be their token figurehead, and now in his death people wish to continue to use him as their token figurehead. Just like Cambridge, they ignore the parts they can't explain away.

 

[The Skeptical Gerbil]

I have a visceral reaction to people that make a living out of telling a demographic that they are permanently oppressed, especially if they never actually create a better system to raise them up.

As each year passes they tell you things are getting worse.
Yet they seem to be making a decent living by apparently representing your oppression.

Merchants of misery the lot of them, they don’t want to improve anything, they just want to be adored while they duck you over.

 

[HotesTilaire]

If there are it's through general boredom and agitators being provided. Middle class Howard and Hilda are tucked up indoors with a cheeky Horlicks

Yes that’s exactly the problem, kids are off and it’s warm.

 

[Carefree]

ETA: I mean, come on…

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A magic Weegie chauffeur at his beck and call just because. Cor blimey, guv, what japes and luck!

 

[HotesTilaire]

So how the duck is this going to work exactly? 'News cap coverage of ANY individual within a set time frame'? Andrew Windsor? Peter Mandelson?
And who decides if coverage is 'informed, fair and respecful'? That's so utterly woolly and vague.
It's pointless nonsense. More attempts to shut down free speech.

Yeah they could decide to stop going on about it - like they did when Huw “the strain of being a massive pedalo” Edwards “will nobody think of his mental health”. So they are capable of it.

 

[HotesTilaire]

Rest In Power? The guy had too much power, and more power (and the accountability that comes with power) than he could cope with. But I do sincerely hope that he is at Peace.

It’s a fairly common saying in the circumstances

 

[Biffy]

She’s completely irresponsible saying that. All this does is drip drip drip poison into the ears of impressional black people, telling them that the world is against them. You want to talk about disproportionate? THIS is disproportionate. You want to know who is oppressing black people - look no further than Diane Abbott and her ilk.

Personally I don't think this rally is going to achieve anything except aminus, but fgs! Are you really suggesting that the most- threatened MP in our current parliament (a black female Cambridge graduate btw) is responsible for the oppression of black people??

ETA: what's your take on the likes of Cofnas who openly try to cloak their eugecist/white supremacist BS with the respectability of academia?

 

[Britbloke]

I saw this courtesy of Gogglebox, at the time, and it is forever what I will associate her with.

https://news.sky.com/video/diane-abbott-gets-her-figures-wrong-in-car-crash-interview-10860258

Which led to this infamous picture at the darts:

Bookmaker apologises over blackface darts fan dressed as Abbott

A bookmaker has apologised after facing a furious backlash over a picture of a darts fan blacked-up as politician Diane Abbott.

www.standard.co.uk