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merryheleen

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I think Jeffree really had something to say, however after realising james had the guts to speak out, he decided to sweep the whole situation under the carpet. I read that james wanted to make a documentary exposing the beauty community as a whole so all the shit would come out and that would destroy all of them. I don’t buy tati’s let’s preach love either. They saw how fast they could lose everything and decided to put off the entire drama for another time.
 
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Yel

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I really just wanna see them all burn 🤷‍♀️
Same. I don't buy Tati - saying James was unreachable. Everything about her is so try hard and carefully planned - like the jefree star products very visible in the background and not mentioning the vitmans to deflect. Just trying to get everyone on board with the nice girl Tati image.

She did this ultimately to sell more of her vitamins, she saw a good chance to make millions with a video she knew would get the views.

She got to help James after he had secured the huge covergirl campaign. So she might have helped with contracts but could it be more down to latching onto someone young and upcoming?

Halo beautys Google searches have absolutely exploded. Easily could have made tens of millions of new people hooked on them giving her $500 a year for pills that cost pennies to make.
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Am I the only one who doesn't think his behaviour deserves the sexual predator label? I've seen the waiter's video (admittedly not tati's) and I'm missing the part where he was pressuring him? If I'm victim blaming please correct me,
I don't think Shane/Ryland telling him to stop going for straight men was them telling him it was wrong but that james would end up with hurt feelings.
 
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J* has spoken on his Instagram.. so should be hearing his side of things soon! I'm way too old too be this invested in YouTube drama 🙈🙈 just keep telling myself I'm watching it all so I can give the edited version to my daughter!
 
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LittleRoots

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I remember seeing a comment like that made about when Shane flew that little girl singer to him and gave her a few videos and tried to promote her channel. I can see how peoples mind would go there in these days which is the real sad thing.
Everyone's so fast to scream out 'you're a perv' or 'that's sexist' whenever someone does something nice. The world is so sensitive guys won't even do something as simple as hold a door open for a girl incase it's taken as some kind of sexist or anti-feminist remark.
There are so many nice people out there who have no other motive than to just do the right thing, and I genuinely believe Tati just saw a young guy with a dream she could help so did.
 
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GossWhore

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Agree, I like Tati but I don’t agree with her going into an industry she knows nothing about.
I think the contract was that he promoted them on his social media but I don’t think he received payment either, just “security”,
But he also lied about what these sweets would do. After saying he wouldn’t promote her vitamins to his audience [emoji3064]
(Shane Dawson, I’m looking at you!)

The real question is how long would the lot of them have let this “behaviour” continue if there hadn’t been a business/financial hit for one of them involved. [emoji848]

[emoji1787] @Yel hahaha I love your attitude.. TAKE THEM ALL DOWN [emoji41]
I was just wondering why he declared it as an ad and refused to say Tati vitamin brand by name. If it wasn't cold hard cash it was something more than just "security" to me.

He was shady to say all these miracles of SBH after a week of taking them. Like bitch? Lol.

Also, why the hell does SBH even have security? Lol. Like okurr (But that's just a random thought that came up)

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Random: Do you think JC had a butt lift? Been on my mind for a while.
 
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Oohthedrama

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Agree @DirtyLaundry its like using a generic drug/pharmaceutical drug vrs a brand name drug.
But I suppose that can be said about cleaning products too. And food etc. It’s all a money spinner imo.
 
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Lars Guinard

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J* has spoken on his Instagram.. so should be hearing his side of things soon! I'm way too old too be this invested in YouTube drama 🙈🙈 just keep telling myself I'm watching it all so I can give the edited version to my daughter!
I only have my niece to talk to about this irl, just the edited version. I tried explaining it to my husband but his response was “ These are adults, who know each other and shun the opportunity to sit together to sort it out in favour of making public videos?” ?! Erm...yeah...but JC has receipts!!
 
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Bumblebee

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I’d never even heard of him until a thread in Mumsnet about a 9yr old wanting his palette.

Then today my 12yr old has asked for one of his hoodies.
 
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SavetheDrama

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Is anybody really surprised that Jeffree is coming across as a giant asshole once again?
I’m starting to think this all may be a teeny bit orchestrated for views and column inches. Even the NYT had an article about it and the one thing YouTubers crave more than money is mainstream fame
 
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Oohthedrama

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Here we go!!!!
Jeffree watched James upload and was in a “dark place”
another one. Seriously getting sick of this line.
He admits to mishandling the friendship “there is no hate in this heart”
Are they all reading from a script here.....!?!?!

Jeffree isn’t going to give people what they want.
In other words, he has no receipts 🤷‍♀️🤣
Jeffree playing the bigger person!? No, Jeffree running scared because he has nothing.
 
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Jelly Bean

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This is all so.. pathetic?? these people are adults. Honestly it’s embarrassing.
Yes exactly. They all thrive on the YT bubble as if it is soooo important. Like being back at school. 'He said' 'She said' 'No he said'. I really do think Tati should be too old for this nonsense. And what has it got to do with Jeffree at all? And why do I care? Ffs.
 
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Jelly Bean

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I watched 5 mins of Jeffree Star's latest and 5 mins of James Charles. Jeez they all waffle so much without ever getting to the point - Tati included. The whole thing could be covered in a few minutes but oh no waffle waffle blah blah 'just to explain the situation again' 'I will get to those points later' 'I'm so hurt and in a dark place and love you guys'- lots of hand waving - for 40 minutes??? They love themselves so much and take it all so painfully seriously. All the while getting massive views. Bizarre.
 
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thenomad

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I feel bad for their PR people who have to deal with the aftermath of their very stupid and extremely public feuding that seems to happen like clockwork every weekend.

These people are all adults. Apparently, talking face-to-face is a foreign concept in LA... It’s even worse because Jeffree and Tati are in their 30s and picking on a 20 y/o. I really hope all these people fade into oblivion. So much narcissism all around and everyone is terrible...
 
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GeorgiaLucy

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Pewdiepie had some fair points (never thought I'd be writing that) it's refreshing to see that someone else shares the not so popular views on Tati.

 
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GossWhore

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Wting for tea and Jeffree trying to take the moral high ground

Me to me:


I will never get sucked into a YouTube Dramageddon again.
 
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Oohthedrama

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@Oohthedrama get out of my YouTube history [emoji23]
I just watched that too

My face was like...


He needs to do Gabriel Zamora
Psychic tarot card reading I just can't 😂 Time for one of them to release another video 💅

Where's all this research on tatis vitamins that cost millions?
STAP JUDGING ME 😂 I fell in a hole, I couldn’t get out! It was 1.30am and before I knew it Ant was telling me everyone’s future using Pokemon cards. To be fair there were enough rumours to go on with James 🤷‍♀️
But he’s predicting Tati will have problems with her business.....
@Yel own up, what have you done!?😐
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@GossWhore
“TAtttttiEeeeEeeE NOOOOO, oh taTTieeeEeee nooo gUrLllL”
This is all I think when I hear about Zamora 🥺
 
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SavetheDrama

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Yep they stopped production of the cheaper pallet as it was very very similar to the James one.

I don't think Tati has had enough of a backlash against her vitamins. Beauty vitamins aren't anything new - I remember at school 20 years ago people were taking them. There's nothing ground breaking or even proven in her vitamins. They might help some people that are deficient in some things, but no more than eating a good diet or vitamins that are 90% cheaper. It's impossible to go on the tube with out seeing a dozen adverts for vitabiotics - they're cheap to make with a huge markup. They might work as the placebo effect is strong and if people are paying $40 a month for several months might make other lifestyle changes if investing in them.

Shame on Shane Dawson for promoting her vitamins (even if it was just a friend favour). He hasn't got a healthy relationship with food and sends out a bad message to buy an expensive magic pill rather than improve your diet.

Just waiting for a new James video, the last apology was so awful he has to do a proper one.
I’m not happy about her vitamins /snake oils either. It’s just another way to milk subscribers for their hard earned cash. People would be much better off taking fish oil and eating well to improve their skin/hair/nails but unfortunately a lot of people don’t want to do any work, they’re “happy” to be duped by a magic pill instead of chucking down a salad. A world of Minghams 😂
 
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emmer_moans

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Always thought James came across as manipulative and egotistical. And people felt sorry for him being given the cold shoulder at the MET...
 
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