Urgh. A noble intention. It really didn’t prompt any discussion about youth crime. The bulgers can’t get closure, they have needed life long protection and what really worries me is the potential for mob lynching- normal people so whipped up by it all they believe they are justified murdering Thompson and venables, given the chance.
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I don’t agree with afterwards as I do believe in prison being about rehabilitation if they get a sentence that actually reflects the crime, but I have always thought that prisoners should have to do work as part of the rehabilitation process, “earn their keep” as such, or even learn a trade whilst in prison.
They do work in prison don’t they? And get education and other rehabilitation support (well with covid I think they’re locked in their cells 23 hours a day but before that)
Yes prisoners do work or attend education. Anyway, I heard about venables working in Pizza Hut and saw the picture of him... pretty sure it’s him. Anyone else seen the pics? (Obv I would never post them) I do believe they should’ve been given IPP sentences as I know of people still in prison with no release date for much less crimes. I don’t think it was a mistake naming them but that’s just me. I do wonder what Thomson is doing now.
From what i understand of the case it does raise some interesting questions about nature v nurture. From memory at the time Thompson was considered the most dangerous. He was from a deeply dysfunctional family where violence and abuse were daily occurrences. Venables on the other hand came from quite a normal family and the worst I heard written about him was his mother was a little overprotective. Yet when some discipline was injected into their lives Thompson turned it around, or hasvdone to our knowledge, whilst Venables continues to be an evil tit.
What should they have done after they left prison etc? how about string them up by their balls and leave them there.
Yes, it's true, Thompson turned his life around got an education, qualifications that he would never have got otherwise. He needed that structure in his life Those saying it was not long enough it's not about vengeance it's about rehabilitation. The system worked on Thompson but not Venables. I said the before and someone said I was wrong but im pretty sure 95% that Thomspon in the home he went into was not allowed to hide who he was everyone there knew who he was and what he had done. so he had to face up to it and talk about it in front of his peers and all that entails.
Venables in the home he went into, they didn't disclose who he was or what he had done so any therapy was done behind closed doors, so he had to be secretive all those years. Could this be the key?
Yes I would definitely say so.
End of the day they were children, if they’d have been a year younger they wouldn’t have been trialed.They did something absolutely despicable but why didn’t they know better? What the hell had happened in their life for this to happen? My nephew is 9, he comes from a loving, caring home and wouldn’t be capable of doing anything like this to anyone, never mind a toddler.
I also remember hearing that a female member of staff had sex with him which supposedly set his rehabilitian right back. Something I remember hearing, can't vouch the truth of it, though.
Yes, that's true. I believe she was suspended, but no idea if she was ever charged.
The parents had to leave Liverpool and haven’t returned since. Robert Thompson’s mum blames Denise. She said something like ‘she should have had reigns on her son and it wouldn’t have happened’ its something David James smith the author of the book the sleep of reason claims she said once
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Why did she need the other woman to watch her child though? Why didn’t she take her daughter with her so she could James to the police station down the road?
If they got into a relationship that turned serious they would then be required to reveal their identities to their partner.
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Yes, I have, many years ago. He is a fat ugly lardarse with the same evil eyes that bore right through you. Inbred looking. Literally made my flesh crawl!!!
I heard Thompson is in a gay relationship and moved to Australia.
It was always thought Venables was the dumb one just following Thompson's lead, but before his latest jailing he had the cunning to go on the dark web and download manuals and all that other stuff, so he really isn't dumb at all and clearly has compulsions he must act on. He even posed as a single mother ("Dawnie"
) to trick other men with the same compulsions to send him stuff. Some of his girlfriends had children. One gf was 17. He told officers his ideal was 15-17yo schoolgirls He needs to be locked up for life to prevent the crimes he is compelled to commit. That is a fact.
It is correct. Robert was made to use his own name in his secure unit so that he always had to face up to his crime. Robert was most certainly not the right leader - it was Jon’s idea to take a child, it was Jon who led James away from The Strand, it was Jon who held his hand most of the way to Walton, it was Jon did the majority of talking to anyone who approached them and it was Jon who admitted that “he” killed James.
Robert is gay, yes. And Venables most definitely didn’t come from a nice family! There were many problems including alcohol and violence.
Robert isn’t in Australia. Never has been and never will be. He has to serve his life licence in the UK.Yes, I have, many years ago. He is a fat ugly lardarse with the same evil eyes that bore right through you. Inbred looking. Literally made my flesh crawl!!!
I heard Thompson is in a gay relationship and moved to Australia.
It was always thought Venables was the dumb one just following Thompson's lead, but before his latest jailing he had the cunning to go on the dark web and download manuals and all that other stuff, so he really isn't dumb at all and clearly has compulsions he must act on. He even posed as a single mother ("Dawnie"
He said to one of the staff members at Red Bank “bring me your baby and I will batter it.” This was in response to her saying he couldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding in jest.This!! 110%They did not for one second think he was a toy or the like. Venables himself in his secure children’s unit was heard saying to one of his appointed case workers, during a jest conversation about fighting, “bring me your baby and I’ll show you fighting” or something along those lines. I appreciate he may have cried each day of his trail and seemed to show remorse in later years etc, and yes, according to the law, he was simply a child himself, but this is the same child/man that tried to deceive detectives during interviews, reoffended and then reoffended again... for indecent and explicit images of children etc. Thompson may have behaved since he was let out, but in my opinion, that doesn’t justify their short sentence or protection from the public. Where was Jamie’s protection? Where is his justice?
The battery story is a myth. They were thrown at him and one was placed in his mouth but that was as far as it went and to be honest, that was bad enough.I did research on this case back in school, can't really remember what it was for but I do remember reading how they had stolen model paint, batteries etc that day and used the batteries to put them somwhere in james body (can't even bring myself to say what they did with the batteries) and had put paint in his eyes, they dropped a 10kg iron bar on him, threw stones and bricks at him. I actually write that with tears in my eyes as I have a 4 yr old niece and a 5 yr old nephew and to think if that were them and how scared they would be, the pain they would be in and how they would probably be crying for their mum
These are myths. Child’s Play 3 was the last film that Jon’s dad rented before the murder. There is no proof that Jon ever even watched it. Because a ghost train and paint featured in the movie, the press put 2 and 2 together and got 5. There is absolutely no link between the film and the murder.
There was no withheld information about this case. Everything that happened was made public at the trial. When James’s body was found there was info that was kept back to save Denise and Ralph’s feelings. All they were told at the time was that James had been cut in two by the train.
Tina Malone is a friend of Denise’s. She knew exactly what she was doing.
Read The Sleep of Reason by David James Smith.
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I’ve read both books by his parents. His mothers is called I let him go.
Re the name Jamie It was the press that started calling him that.
Their first daughter was still born. James was their second child.
His father says in his book:
“Detectives also discovered blood-stained bricks, stones and iron bars at the scene, as well as some AA batteries and a tin of blue modelling paint.”
Re the name Jamie It was the press that started calling him that.
Their first daughter was still born. James was their second child.
His father says in his book:
“Detectives also discovered blood-stained bricks, stones and iron bars at the scene, as well as some AA batteries and a tin of blue modelling paint.”
In my anger I blamed my wife, admits the father of murdered toddler James Bulger 20 years after his little boy's murder horrified Britain
James Bulger was two years old when he was murdered on February 12, 1993. Here his father Ralph tells his version of the story for the very first time.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Interview with his mother Denise in 2018 where she says her son was sexually abused before his death.
She was pregnant with her other child, so didn't want to know the full details during the trial.
She was pregnant with her other child, so didn't want to know the full details during the trial.
He really did have the most evil pair of eyes I have ever seen on a kid.
There was no evidence of a sexual assault, also Denise knows everything that happened to her son.
If one the parents has said so I will believe them, until I see something that says otherwise.
Every single detail is not revealed to the public, it can not be discounted as a myth though.
Thompson and Venables had never been asked publicly about whether a sexual assault had taken place. But in his submission to the parole board, Thompson shared his answer.
“I am certain that I didn’t interfere with him sexually and I do not think that Jon Venables assaulted James Bulger in that way.”
He also claimed he didn’t take the child.
In his own words:
Detective: I believe i know the truth.
T: So do I, I was there.
Detective: That’s right
T: You weren’t . “
Detective: You’re correct ...
inews.co.uk
Every single detail is not revealed to the public, it can not be discounted as a myth though.
Thompson and Venables had never been asked publicly about whether a sexual assault had taken place. But in his submission to the parole board, Thompson shared his answer.
“I am certain that I didn’t interfere with him sexually and I do not think that Jon Venables assaulted James Bulger in that way.”
He also claimed he didn’t take the child.
In his own words:
Detective: I believe i know the truth.
T: So do I, I was there.
Detective: That’s right
T: You weren’t . “
Detective: You’re correct ...
James Bulger: The New Revelations - Six things we found out
Channel 5's new documentary shares never before seen documents of the crime that shocked the nation 25 years on
inews.co.uk
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