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Did anyone catch this on Twitter?



Tom Felton: “Hi I’m Emma Watson and I played Hagrid”

Is he taking the piss out of everyone shouting for the revision of history and Emma & Daniel Radcliffe to be the “new authors” of Harry Potter 😆
 
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I don't think the two can be conflated. I'm a Marxist, and identity politics is pretty far from Marxist materialism.

I think for a certain type of woke leftwing male, women occupy a space in their ideology where we, our medicine and biology specific facilities and services are considered ”luxuries”. I once sat in a university lecture in the noughties where the son of a barrister, public schoolboy, proudly declared “I used to be a Marxist and then a nihilist, but what I am most of all, is a hero to the working class”. My observation is the kind of idiot who treats a group of people as homogeneous and grateful proles, doesn’t mean that they can see women as an equal yet biologically distinct class.

Happy to go over to the gender board to discuss my hypothesis at some point, but my point is that just being a middle class educated young person doesn’t inure you to misogyny. It just means you use fancier words when you start kicking out women’s support structures and punching in our teeth for wrong speak.

Edit to say: Didn’t Karl Marx himself refuse to work and live off a woman?
 
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Is he taking the piss out of everyone shouting for the revision of history and Emma & Daniel Radcliffe to be the “new authors” of Harry Potter 😆
Did Tom not say anything about JKs tweets?

I couldn’t believe what DR, EW & RG tweeted after. They have thrown a woman under the bus THAT THEY PERSONALLY KNOW. Surely they would know she’s not transphobic, she’s not a bad person!m? She’s sticking up for women? Especially Emma, feminist my a, didn’t like her much before but cannot stand her now!
 
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Tom initially ‘liked’ one of her tweets, I can’t remember which, and then later removed it. He hasn’t stabbed her in the back like the other brats. She is still following him, so maybe they have spoken in private. I like to think that Malloy is the good one after all
 
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Did anyone catch this on Twitter?



Tom Felton: “Hi I’m Emma Watson and I played Hagrid”

Is he taking the piss out of everyone shouting for the revision of history and Emma & Daniel Radcliffe to be the “new authors” of Harry Potter 😆
Absolutely love this. How he manages to keep a straight face I don’t know.

Emma Watson is the definition of faux feminist. She support the kind of feminism that is more palatable to the general public rather than the nitty gritty feminism that actually matters. Don’t even get me started on ‘he for she’ talk about putting men In the centre in a women’s movement. I can totally believe a few HP cast members have been speaking with JKR in private about this and although I wish more would be brave enough to speak up and stand with her publicly, I can understand why some would be reluctant. Keep an eye on the ones who have stayed silent (and also John Cleese what a legend).
 
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Did Tom not say anything about JKs tweets?

I couldn’t believe what DR, EW & RG tweeted after. They have thrown a woman under the bus THAT THEY PERSONALLY KNOW. Surely they would know she’s not transphobic, she’s not a bad person!m? She’s sticking up for women? Especially Emma, feminist my a, didn’t like her much before but cannot stand her now!
They also threw the woman pretty much responsible for giving them everything under a bus. They haven't really achieved much since. Also, I think I've asked this question before, but if trans women are women would DR and RG date one?

Was so disappointed in EW- whatever about men throwing women under a bus, it was really upsetting to see EW do the same to another woman. Deplorable
 
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I hope in time they reflect and have a think about what they did. Redmayne never will, he’s too arrogant.
Loving John Cleese - time for a nearly headless Nick spiN off film!
Looks like Jessica Yaniv has been arrested...
 
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I'm a new member and opened this thread with trepidation. What I've read has been a breath of fresh air, and I'm so glad to see so many women who are speaking up to protect our sex based rights.

I have always been very pro-trans, but I can no longer idly stand by while our rights and legal protections are trampled over by the TRA lobby. Also the threats of violence every time anyone speaks out are indicative of what these extremists are truly like. Just look at the website terfisaslur.com to see examples of what I mean.

I'm a lesbian and very much not attracted to penises or males. That's just the way I'm wired and I won't be shouted down as a TERF or a transphobe because my dating pool doesn't include trans women. I am so fearful for younger lesbians who are trying to come to terms with who they are, having TWAW pushed down their throats and not feeling strong enough to push back.
 
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@DanaScully welcome! Thank you for posting. Lesbians definitely seem to be forgotten about in all of this. I remember reading one of the Guardian blind dates where a lesbian was set up with a trans woman. Obviously she didn't take it further but the trans woman tweeted relentlessly about how she was a transphobe and so on. She had to make her Twitter private in the end
 
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I remember that guardian blind date thing. I felt so bad for that woman she got lynched simply for not being attracted or interested in going on another date with someone, which is surely someone we are all allowed to do? One date doesn’t automatically mean there will be a second!
 
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I found an article on it

 
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I remember that guardian blind date thing. I felt so bad for that woman she got lynched simply for not being attracted or interested in going on another date with someone, which is surely someone we are all allowed to do? One date doesn’t automatically mean there will be a second!
Your view on this may depend on whether you were raised with a male sense of entitlement or not.
 
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Your view on this may depend on whether you were raised with a male sense of entitlement or not.
Totally. It's equivalent to going on a date with a man and not being interested and being told "well you're obviously a lesbian" or something. All of us women have been there
 
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Lots of this movement has come from lesbian left wing women. The academics I mentioned previously tend to fit into this category. Equally there is a black lesbian barrister, Allison Bailey, who has been treated horrifically by her chambers and others for starting a "LGB Alliance" because she shares the concerns of the lesbian poster above. The idea that a lesbian who does not find transwomen attractive is transphobic is straight up gay erasure. It baffles me that so many gay and lesbian people seem to think they must advocate for the transgender ideology because of the LGBT 'alliance' when this movement is trying to force you out of existence.

It's interesting what somebody posted previously about Marxism because it also seems like this issue is something that has really split the left. The progressive woke beardy types are always left wing, but there are also many many gender critical left wing people also. Saying that, aside from self ID being a Tory idea originally, it doesn't seem that there is much support for this from the right either. I have seen plenty of usually lefty people on Twitter showing gratitude to Liz Truss over her halting of the GRA reform. Given that Lib Dems are a lost cause on this and it's yet to be seen what Starmer's policies on it will be it may well be the case that the Tories are now the only hope we have in stopping all this. Despite not wanting to vote for them either, I'm really not sure I could bring myself to vote for a party who sets this GRA reform back on its tracks if I'm honest. So who would we have left to vote for? Greens are similar to Lib Dem on this policy. Would be interested in others' thoughts on this.
 
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I heard about the Social Democrats Party recently and their position on this:

“The liberal pursuit of individual autonomy and desire must be balanced by the common good. Some citizens feel at odds with the physiology and social role associated with their natal sex and can suffer distress. Transgender people should be treated with dignity and respect, in keeping with their acquired gender in most situations. However, these rights must be balanced against the need of natal females for safety and sporting fairness. Biological sex is real and politically significant. This requires an absolute stance on relevant legal definitions in some domains.”

Transgender and Biological sex based rights - SDP Policy
 
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I heard about the Social Democrats Party recently and their position on this:

“The liberal pursuit of individual autonomy and desire must be balanced by the common good. Some citizens feel at odds with the physiology and social role associated with their natal sex and can suffer distress. Transgender people should be treated with dignity and respect, in keeping with their acquired gender in most situations. However, these rights must be balanced against the need of natal females for safety and sporting fairness. Biological sex is real and politically significant. This requires an absolute stance on relevant legal definitions in some domains.”

Transgender and Biological sex based rights - SDP Policy
Thanks for this. Very interesting read. I hadn't heard of them before admittedly. Having had a quick skim, it seems like the majority of their policies are eminently sensible so unfortunately that means they probably haven't got a hope in hell of gaining power!
 
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I am bleeping fuming. There's a debate on Facebook about JKR and someone said they can still enjoy Harry Potter because they can separate the art from the artist, in the same way that they still like Roman Polanski's films. How is JK defending women in any way comparable to Polanski? I am seriously fed up. Oh and of course this was from a straight man who is blissfully unaware of the nuances of this debate. I know because he told me a few weeks back he didn't really know enough about it
 
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