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Oohthedrama

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But she was saying that in relation to the article entitled "Creating a more equal post-Covid-19 world for people who menstruate," so her tweet wasn't exactly out of nowhere. It was a response to that article.
An article she chose to retweet with a bitchy comment.
She knows what she’s doing,
She strikes a match, throws it and watches the flames, it’s not the first time she’s done it.

I’m not touching the topic, not my beef, not my chicken not my tofu.
Do what you want and call yourself what you want 🤷‍♀️ None of my business.

I’m talking about her personality and I stand by what i say about her. She’s a bitter woman with a nasty personality
 
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Zenchick101

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I also get what you're saying but it's her personal account and I don't see why she should outsource her thoughts and voice to a PR department. This isn't really directed at you but it would be a frightening state of affairs if everyone had to run something past a PR person
Maybe she's established enough that she doesn't have to anymore? I just mentioned that because my friend used to be an actress with 50k followers and she used to have to do that to protect her image
 
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Zenchick101

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So it’s ok for women to be threatened with rape, murder and doxxing, but stating an immutable biological fact like how men literally cannot become women gets you labelled as a hateful terf & a bigot and results in said threats.

I don’t think I’ve seen any of that kind of violent vitriol coming from a ‘terf’. The worst I’ve seen is ‘transwomen are men’ which whilst it may not be a nice thing to say, you could argue is correct from a biology standpoint (biology doesn’t have manners). Funny old world we live in.
It's scary I've never thought of doing any of that to a trump supporter or anyone who contradicts with my belief.

Good thing JKR is untouchable she's got bodyguard money and career protection. Jameela Jamil was tagged in these violent tweets I saw and only replied to someone that trans people are still the most vulnerable group in our society. Nothing else.
 
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rosemarina

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I can’t get my head round how much hatred they have towards women compared to men with the same opinions. Is it simply a case of they hate women because they desperately want to be us and know deep down they never ever will? Their hate is so violent and deep that it frightens me.
I think it’s the exact opposite of that. They hate us and they fear becoming us, so when a man transitions to “become” a woman, the other men really viscerally need to believe that he was always really a woman. Transwomen ARE women to them because they have to believe that they were always ours not theirs. If not, what does that say about other men? It could happen to them next.
 
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emmer_moans

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I think Harry Potter really inspired a lot of people and was so imaginative. However yes, on Twitter she does seem to get involved in spats a lot.
 
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StephenTJackson

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I think a major part of the issue surrounding the trans rights debate - in terms of which bathroom they are allowed to use and sports to compete in etc. - is that the societal system of understanding has only just really started to accept the existence and validity of trans identities.

So you can transition, and change gender identity legally etc. But the more everyday aspects of it, none of it has been worked out to create a set of rules deciding what is allowed in terms of sport participation, bathroom use etc.

And until that actually happens and creates a set of rules that people can all refer to and say this is what is allowed and how it's all going to work etc.

So for example you'd need a rule that decides whether a MTF person can use a female bathroom, at what point does that become allowable, is it just at the point of legally identifying as female or when the penis comes off or what.

Until this happens on a legal basis to force a standard hopefully acceptable to the majority, and society gets the time to get used to a consistent behaviour then we will continue to have the debate on things like bathroom rights and such.
 
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SqualorVictoria

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That is simply not true.

In the U.K., there are more transwomen murderers than murder victims.

In the USA, trans people have a far lower than average risk of suffering murder or violence.

The claims that transwomen are at risk of violence come from statistics on black transwomen prostitutes. It’s because they are black prostitutes, nothing to do with trans status. They are still not at unusually high risk compared to other prostitutes or black people.

The dishonest claims of hate, fear and victimhood serve three purposes: to pressurise the public and authorities to give trans people a protected group status; to evoke sympathy and counter the public’s valid fears of strange men; and to play-act as the role of being dainty, frightened girls, which strokes their ego.
The last sentence reminds me of something I read about "Danielle Muscato" having a panic attack and insisting all men leave the room
 

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SqualorVictoria

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Maybe she's established enough that she doesn't have to anymore? I just mentioned that because my friend used to be an actress with 50k followers and she used to have to do that to protect her image
Yeah I get what you're saying. I guess its different for an actress who might not get offered roles if someone doesn't like what she's saying (which in itself is also frightening considering this issue doesn't seem to affect men who can say whatever the hell they want)
 
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Inforapenny

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So there is an article on the daily mail website (yes I know!) Dedicated to Emma Watson getting thrashed for speaking out apparently against jk Rowling (I haven't seen her Twitter response and I don't necessarily agree with Emma's take from what is allegedly is reported in the article). However
the Dailymail is enjoying bringing Emma down (I'm sure because she's a bright woman who doesn't keep quiet)
The wording of the headline and article is of course to lambaste Emma.
Now when it came to the Dailymail reporting on Radcliffe and Redmayne there was not such scrutiny or criticism in, the Dailymail reported it to provoke but with the Emma article they've gone to town and whipped up an argument about feminism....cue the excuse to be misogynistic and now hate both JK and Emma.....
 
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Vee6

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Good. I just feel like it’s given him such an ego boost and he’s basking in the glory.
Was wonderful when it looked like he had her back, felt really emotional.
 
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Alfies_Boy

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1. A beautician not trained to wax testicles won’t wax testicles.
2. A beautician trained to wax testicles will wax testicles.
3. They weren’t fired.
4. They didn’t have to wax anyone’s testicles.
5. Jessica Yaniv is problematic, not motivated by trans inclusion and not supported by most trans people.

Clear? Good.
 
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kat.becs

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Many trans use the argument of suicide and I find this incredibly manipulative.
I am sorry of someone who struggles with mental health and yes they should be helped but this doesn't automatically mean women must give up their spaces, allow men in their showers and be erased and treated like we're bigots for protecting our rights and because we're not putting trans first.

And what about the mental health of our girls who are having to put up with this???
I never said that we should. I previously stated that I'm in favour of a unisex alternative for trans people, alongside the usual male/female bathrooms. I'd rather have that for my son than him have to debate which bathroom to use anyway. That's far more distressing for him than it is for him just to use a seperate bathroom.
 
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pixxyy

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Could say the same about you and your sexist views - transgender ideology is inherently sexist.
well thats 1 word I can honestly say i've never been called. If being supportive of the Trans community makes me sexist though i'll take that insult with pride
 
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Inforapenny

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There’s no need to take that tone. I’m just trying to answer your question. I’ve no idea who you are or what your experience is. Clearly it’s been very different to my own as a sexual assault survivor and the sister of someone who chaperones was part of their job.
ive no idea how an individual would feel about that but personal feelings and hospital procedure/ attitudes are very different. it’s actually commonplace for drs to bet told all the time they don’t want to be seen again by a patient. From the drs I know they couldn’t care less when that happens because they have plenty of other patients to see.
you see your ability for consent as rigamorale? I would have thought the importance of consent is something incredibly positive and a legal right but okay.
Tone? Eeeek is someone putting me in my place? 😂
Sorry I've tired to understand your response but it's way too confusing for me. I'm not sure what you are trying to say?
Any how my point stands. What do hospitals, consultants, surgeries do when faced with a trans nurse or doctor or someone with patients so they are not accused of transphobia?
And I wonder if patients, especially the younger generation comfortable for calling a spade a spade and saying no to a trans woman examining them ?
 
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HarderFaster

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I think most women are sympathetic to someone who genuinely wants to transition and is prepared to have surgery and go the whole distance (like Kelly Malone). But many women are worried about this idea that a man can identify as female (and still have his tackle) whilst accessing female only spaces as there are a few who don't appear to be genuine.
Kelly Maloney can have all the surgery she likes but she's still a wife-beater to me. Vile person.
 
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LittleMy

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To be fair, even if any of the actors agree with JK's tweets and essay content, they may not feel they are in a position to say so. I'd suggest there's lots of people in the public eye who toe the line publicly while privately thinking the world has lost the plot.
That’s true.
 
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