Isabelle Rose Welsh

[TheMiceInTheShed]

This just defies belief. Too upsetting for her?? How the duck did she think it was for Isabelle then?

I cannot envisage a scenario where I could see a baby in this state and not somehow find a way to remove her from the situation.

Agree.

I couldn't turn my back on a suffering rat caught in a trap, never mind a BABY - and my own grandchild at that!

If I suspected there was anything amiss (and she obviously did) I would have moved Hell and high water to get the authorities involved somehow, I would have offered to have her for a sleepover and taken her to hospital, I would have alerted the police and social services, I would have rung the NSPCC. I would have just gone in, if necessary and carried that baby out of the house away from that drunken, drug addled pair of sh*tballs.

This isn't a situation where the child's abuse has been hidden - it has been on full show - to the extent that it was "too upsetting" to look at, and she just pushed it out of her mind. Both "grandparents" did. I hope they rot.

 

[Borrible]

Agree.

I couldn't turn my back on a suffering rat caught in a trap, never mind a BABY - and my own grandchild at that!

If I suspected there was anything amiss (and she obviously did) I would have moved Hell and high water to get the authorities involved somehow, I would have offered to have her for a sleepover and taken her to hospital, I would have alerted the police and social services, I would have rung the NSPCC. I would have just gone in, if necessary and carried that baby out of the house away from that drunken, drug addled pair of sh*tballs.

This isn't a situation where the child's abuse has been hidden - it has been on full show - to the extent that it was "too upsetting" to look at, and she just pushed it out of her mind. Both "grandparents" did. I hope they rot.

All of this

Even if you thought you might be wrong, even if you were worried about your daughter never speaking to you again, even if you were worried about never seeing your grandchild again - if you got authorities involved and it turns out that actually, nothing is wrong at all - at least you could sleep at night without the thoughts of 'what if'. Without tormenting yourself with worry for your grandchild, and be able to sleep easier knowing they're not in danger. Knowing that you tried.

Of course grandmother knew something wasn't right. She offered for them to go and live with her. Like you, I'd have literally bundled Isabelle into my car if that's what it took and said 'prove me wrong' before taking her to mine. If grandmother was concerned about confrontation, could she not just have made a call to social? Every single person in that poor child's life did nothing.

 

[kabukigirl]

The grandmother got crappy at the hospital when the medics were concerned about the broken leg & she didn’t want Isabelle to stay overnight - Grandmother obviously didn’t want social services involvement or anything that would have actually helped Isabelle escape the situation she was in.

Talked the talk slightly, but ultimately she didn’t give that much of a duck about the baby & her being hurt, consciously averted her gaze from what was obviously happening & even enabled it by buying AW 10 cans of “Wife Beater”

 

[Erling Haaland]

The grandmother got crappy at the hospital when the medics were concerned about the broken leg & she didn’t want Isabelle to stay overnight - Grandmother obviously didn’t want social services involvement or anything that would have actually helped Isabelle escape the situation she was in.

Talked the talk slightly, but ultimately she didn’t give that much of a duck about the baby & her being hurt, consciously averted her gaze from what was obviously happening & even enabled it by buying AW 10 cans of “Wife Beater”

who in their right mind buys a young girl, the sole carer of a very poorly two year old, a crate!!!??

 

[Nelly's mum]

who in their right mind buys a young girl, the sole carer of a very poorly two year old, a crate!!!??

Probably someone who drinks too much themself, I guess there's a generational aspect how family members respond

 

[Cry me a river]

I spent a bit of time last night looking at HS Facebook , it beggars belief that he Has countless photos portraying himself as a model parent.

 

[Cry me a river]

AW has one heck of a temper fuelled by alcohol and drugs , she’s quick enough to point the finger at HS but all we’ve heard about is her violence punching cupboards in the night , stabbing herself possibly banging the babes head against the wall .
i wonder if AW‘s mother was terrified of her .

 

[WurstHunde]

I wonder was the cupboard punching to cover for any ”banging” sounds the neighbours might have heard, or was AW way too far gone to have that much forethought?

 

[bigmac22]

I wonder was the cupboard punching to cover for any ”banging” sounds the neighbours might have heard, or was AW way too far gone to have that much forethought?

Personally I think she’s just a violent, drunk mess. If she’s thick enough to do all of this whilst her house is covered in CCTV, I can’t see how she’d have the braincells to try and pretend to cover her tracks.

 

[OGJessicaFletcher]

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Thank you for posting these updates
It’s all just word salad about how much she ‘loves’ her daughter and none of it translates into anything tangible.
Who the hell sees their child covered in bruises and accepts the word of some random bloke she’s just met? Or finds out he’s bathed her daughter and just accepts it and a 2 year old’s word that she ‘likes him’
Soooo much to unpack that this barely scratches the surface. Poor little girl. It’s heartbreaking.

 

[Cry me a river]

. Words are cheap - actions speak louder .

 

[OGJessicaFletcher]

Latest from the Gazette:

Isabelle Welsh's mum 'searched sex offender database' murder trial hears

Alexandra Walker, 25, and her boyfriend Harrison Simpson, 22, deny murdering two year old Isabelle Welsh

www.gazettelive.co.uk

 

[Ravenstown]

Thanks for the updates.

That poor little mite.

 

[RinsedHoops]

At minimum, she was aware he was abusing that little girl and chose to turn a blind eye to keep a man in her life she’s known 5 minutes.

 

[Shinythings]

It's just Varley and McGowan-Fazakerly all over again. Me me me. No heartbroken about how Isabelle must have been feeling, just herself.

 

[MistyWindows]

I know a lot of ‘AW’s statements’ are paraphrasing and we aren’t getting all the evidence yet, but something is so off about how the two of them ended up together. Firstly, I thought the age gap was unusual, I know a woman being three years older is nothing for most, but I would have found it odd in my early twenties.

Secondly this, “Facebook dating”? What is that? I don’t know any 21ish year olds that still use Facebook. I’m not aware of any kind of dating part of it either, unless it’s some kind of local group, then you invite some random that replied to your post round to your house, where you live with your toddler, and you talk about food and films? Sounds like bull to me.
Again, might be the police officer that interviewed her paraphrasing, but it sounds specific and like a total lie.
I don’t really know what to make of it, but if I were to guess I’d say either he met her somewhere, probably when she was drunk (although if she’s a regular heavy drinker then 10 cans of Stella wouldn’t leave her comatose like it did) and pinpointed her as vulnerable then convinced her to invite him to her house, either that or if she was part of the sexual abuse then she met him in a much darker way.

It’s just such a mindfuck for me and so bleak, I’m just so upset and confused about the whole case. Her mother bringing her ten cans of Stella is so ducked, is that a regular thing? I don’t know, but Jesus Christ what a mess.

 

[nothinonyou]

Facebook dating is a thing, it's like Tinder matching you with others in your area and you can see their profile etc. It rings true to me because this is how he saw she had a daughter and probably immediately pursued it and moved in on her

 

[MistyWindows]

Facebook dating is a thing, it's like Tinder matching you with others in your area and you can see their profile etc. It rings true to me because this is how he saw she had a daughter and probably immediately pursued it and moved in on her

Ohhh okay, that surprises me as Facebook and Tinder is very outdated where I’m from for that age group, it’s not a thing in my area.
Look, I’ve had Tinder hook ups. If I’m honest, I’ve had random guys to my house, had sex then they leave, often a bar first, but even then in my early twenties when I wasn’t in a good place and knew it was dangerous, I had flatmates that I apologised to after and warned before.
With a little child in the house that she was in sole charge of?! For the above I was under the influence of multiple ‘things’, did her parents really not know about this? god this is bleak. She should never have been in charge of Isabelle, where was social services?

EDIT I’m not slut shaming and would be the last to do so, nothing wrong with casual sex but clearly she wasn’t about that and wanted a relationship, also had a child in the house and let him look after her.