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Tanley

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So AW only had a phone call from the health visitor following Isabelle’s broken leg? No house call to check on her welfare? This was a young child with a fracture that was two weeks old, and a mother who was aggressive to hospital staff. Yet the HV just accepted from AW that Isabelle was doing well and going back to nursery. Now it turns out that Isabelle wasn’t even registered with a nursery, so the HV clearly took no details and made no follow ups :mad:

This poor child was let down by everyone :(
 
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Borrible

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What in the world is happening? All these assaults on children. Why is everyone a pdf!
I am starting to think this less about sexual interest in children and more about dominance, violence, humiliation and power against females. I wish someone would study this more. But who has the stomach for it 🤢

I think there's always been a massive problem with pedalos.

If anyone has read the Rupert Lowe gang rape enquiry summary (it's a tough read, be warned), pretty much all of the victims who were groomed had suffered sexual abuse as very young children from all different types of relatives - father, stepdad, uncle, mother, grandparent, both parents, you name it. The victims abuse goes back as far as the 70s-80s to present day. I personally know three people who were sexually abused as children, and I don't even have many people around me, so that's a lot.

It's a disgusting deeply ingrained problem in society. Easier access to porn may explain some of the escalation, but I don't know how that could apply to abuse pre-internet.
 
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Borrible

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What makes it even worse is that the mother said to the nurse at the hospital that she had been checking on her every 10 minutes when she was put down for a nap.
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Well she clearly wasn't checking on Isabelle every ten minutes because the poor child had dried vomit on her.

How long could Isabelle have been dead for before they restarted her heart? The paramedic said she was freezing cold and no blood movement, so minutes? An hour?

Those poor paramedics, yes they deal with all sorts but nobody expects to have a situation like that. They literally threw everything at saving Isabelle but she was already long dead from the sounds of it, so it was futile. And the DC being shown Isabelle's broken body by the consultant is horrendous.
I hope they're given every support.
 
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Shinythings

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Honestly, it's infuriating there's even a trial here when the evidence is so shockingly overwhelming. I can only assume each defendent will blame the other.

Another sweet baby lost to people who never deserved to be fertile.
 
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TheMiceInTheShed

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I wonder now that AW and HS are sober and have been for months... the reality of what they have done has hit them? Do sober people show remorse?
HS won't see his sons again.
AW daughter is dead.
They are only in their 20s. What a waste.
Isabelle was two. :mad:

THAT'S the waste. :mad::mad::mad:
 
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nothinonyou

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Facebook dating is a thing, it's like Tinder matching you with others in your area and you can see their profile etc. It rings true to me because this is how he saw she had a daughter and probably immediately pursued it and moved in on her
 
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I really do hope that AW is found guilty of all charges she most definitely knew. Manipultive bitch. As far as I can see she posted a new picture of her new hair done 12th September on Facebook her wee girl was brutally murdered the next day. Already suffering the most brutal amount of abuse and she knew took part in it or turned a blind eye. Going by dates her new hair seemed more important and her alcohol consumption. Hope some justice is served here. Not that it will bring back this innocent little child. Agree Bio dad doesn't seem up to much as any father. BUT this is one Manipultive bitch playing the victim still if she had one shred of decency in her as a mother she would admit she knew and she saw these bruises. But continues playing the victim. Really hope these 2 get sorted out in prison.
 
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Emsie

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If just ONLY it was all as simple as u say it. Set up a contact centre etc no way would AW have allowed this not a chance.
Family court is huge waiting lists to even have your case heard or even read.
AW played a victim here she would never have encouraged any contact for him and his daughter. It would have needed to be legally binded. Which would have only happened in a family court.
It's even longer when you dont do anything to actually get on the list.
He doesn't need AWs permission or encouragement. He is a grown man, a father. He could have made his application to court all by himself.
 
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OGJessicaFletcher

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What are the families comments under the sun post? Would be interested to know.
Can someone share the comments from the sun post please, or a link?
Unfortunately it’s a FB post so can’t be linked here directly. Emotions are high understandably, the arguing, insults & disagreements are coming from all sides, it’s insane 😵💫

Such a shame they ALL didn’t use this much energy to ensure Isabelle was actually safe & well!
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kabukigirl

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Why are you trying to make excuses for this sorry apology of a father? IMO He didn't care. He's milking the death of his daughter to gain attention and sympathy for himself, and is taking no responsibility for what happened to her. This didn't happen suddenly out of the blue - this was long-term sadistic abuse that people could easily see. That HE could have seen if he had given enough of a damn to visit his daughter.

That poor child didn't have a single person in the world who was looking out for her welfare. Not one.

You could just as easily say it wasn't Isabelle's mother's fault because she was a hopeless alcoholic and couldn't parent properly. It wasn't her step-father's fault because he was a drug addict and couldn't help himself. It wasn't the grandparents' fault because they thought it was only due to drink and drugs that Isabelle was being beaten, and they didn't now she was being sexually abused. You could excuse all of these people in one way or another - but every one of them is an ADULT. They could all choose their behaviour. Isabelle couldn't - she was trapped in a hell not of her own making and the adults who should have been protecting her didn't give a sh*t.

Isabelle doesn't need people weeping behind her tiny coffin now she's dead. What she needed was someone - even just one person - who cherished and cared for and protected her when she was alive. It's not a lot to ask, is it? ONE PERSON who would love a child enough to look after her? Or even love her enough to give her up for adoption if they couldn't cope. But there wasn't even one.

(I haven't been able to bring myself to read most of her case - it's too harrowing - but where was social services in this? Even hospital staff ere intimidated by the mother, so what wasn't social services looking very closely at AW's behaviour? Isabelle was a baby - and she was failed by everybody around her.)
So far it doesn’t seem like she had any CSC involvement, so wasn’t known to them. The HV didn’t even bother visiting after hearing about the broken leg & the hospital knew she had had the injury 2 weeks before being seen by them but doesn’t seem like any of this resulted in contacting CSC with any concerns, even tho AW and the grandmother were aggressive at the hospital 😒
 
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Cry me a river

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See, I do absolutely blame the grandmother. She saw Isabelle covered in bruises on several occasions and clearly unwell the day before she died. IIRC she was also with her daughter when Isabelle was taken to hospital with the broken leg and all the safeguarding concerns and kick off that followed. Add to that, the boyfriend living in the house who her daughter had only known 5 minutes (and the grandmother had never even met) while also knowing her daughter had a history of being vulnerable to domestic abuse. Surely that combination should have set every alarm bell ringing.
Same here , it’s her duty as a grandparent to protect her grandchildren especially knowing there was a man she didn’t know living in the same house .
She should have been demanding to know how the broken leg occurred .
 
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Erling Haaland

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These self-pitying men always seem to come crawling out of the woodwork when it's too late.

Don't pay any maintenance, don't do any childcare, don't pop in for a visit. Just use their children to score points.
exactly. Every adult in Isabelle’s life failed her including the biological father.
 
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bigmac22

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Updates from today cos I posted earlier in the wrong thread 🤦‍♀️

2:38pm17/07/26
Case adjourned
The hearing has been adjourned for the day due to illness and will resume on Monday when Alexandra Walker is expected to conclude her evidence.

12:40pm17/07/26
Sexual relationship
Walker accepts that Simson regularly wanted to have sex with her and they had a very active sex life.
She says that Simpson like to be called 'daddy' and asked her to call him 'daddy' while they were having sex and admitted that it seemed a little 'creepy'.
Mr Wright puts it to her that she searched for 'when a man only wants sex' - is that the impression you got.
She says 'yes' before admitting that he asked her to do things in the bedroom which she was uncomfortable with.
Walker admits that it felt a 'bit odd' Simpson's approach to sex.
The hearing has adjourned for lunch.
12:36pm17/07/26
Drug dealing
Mr Wright quizzes Walker about her internet searching for different types of cannabis and grip seal plastic bags.
She accepts that she was using her phone to search for items used in dealing drugs.
The jury is looking at a photograph from Walker's kitchen where grip seal bags and weighing scales could be seen.
She accepts that she was selling drugs on the streets with Harrison Simpson from a very early stage in their relationship.
Mr Wright puts it to Walker that she was engaged in a financial and romantic relationship with Simpson. She agrees.
12:29pm17/07/26
Love bombing
Mr Wright puts it to Walker that she was enjoying the attention from Simpson and he showed a lot of interest in Isabelle.
"Was it all a bit too good to be true?" he asks. "Do you agree?" Walker replies: Yes."
He says that Simpson was staying over at her home by early July and Walker accepts that it all happened quite quickly.
Walker accepts that Simpson always made a big fuss of Isabelle and buy her treats and sweets but denies that it was a 'bit odd' in the beginning but she started to get concerned about his interest in her daughter.
Mr Wright puts it to Walker that Isabelle didn't like spending time with Harrison Simpson. She says that wasn't the case, she would often just cry to be with her.
She accepts that it was 'convenient' to have him around because he showered her in attention and treated Isabelle with sweets and treats.
Walker accepts that she benefitted financially as they were selling drugs together and that Simpson smoked cannabis 'all of the time'.
12:22pm17/07/26
Head injury
Mr Wright asks who fractured Isabelle's skull.
She says: "It was not me. It must have been Harrison."
He asks who inflicted the other fractures to Isabelle.
"It wasn't me who did it to Isabelle - it must have been Harrison," she says.
Fighting through tears, Walker tells the court that it was Harrison Simpson who sexually abused and murdered her daughter.
She continues to deny that she has been protecting Simpson.
Mr Wright asks if she is frightened of Harrison Simpson, she says 'no'.
Walker accepts that she kicked Simpson out of her house when she accused him of being a 'romance scammer' and had been cheating on her.
12:16pm17/07/26
Aggressive behaviour
Mr Wright puts it to Walker that she became aggressive and confrontational when ever anyone challenged her about what was going on.
She accepts she was confrontational with medics when she took Isabelle to get her broken leg treated and that she became aggressive with her own mother when she raised concerns.
Mr Wright asks her if she was delaying bringing outside help and she died.
"That's something that I will have to live with all my life," she says.
Walker denies that she was hurting her daughter with Simpson.
"You were doing more to protect Simpson than you were to protect Isabelle," he says. She says: "No, that's not true."
12:12pm17/07/26
Simpson relationship
Mr Wright puts it to Walker that she 'chose' to let Simpson into her home while she got drunk on Stella and he got high smoking on his bong. She says 'yes'.
Walker accepts that she was storing and selling drugs from her Thornaby home after starting the relationship with Simpson.
She agrees that her alcohol consumption increased during the time she was in a relationship with Simpson.
He asks: "Do you accept any responsibility of any sort for Isabelle's death?"
She replies: "Yes, I feel like I failed as a parent to protect her but I had no idea of the horrors that were occurring in my home."
Walker says she didn't think anything was going on with her daughter after she went from a happy child to the bundle she saw on the sofa shortly before she died.
He asks: "Do you accept any responsibility for failing to urgent medical help for your child?"
She replies: "Yes, I do." However, she maintains that she was unaware of the abuse she was enduring and thought she just had a viral infection from her time in hospital.
"I thought it was just something that would go," she says.
Walker accepts that she failed to take Isabelle to hospital in the week leading up to her death when she was clearly unwell.
12:05pm17/07/26
Timeline of events
Mr Wright says the timeline of events starts on June 7 last year when a video captures Isabelle as a very active, happy and mischievous little girl.
He says he has no intention of putting it to her that she didn't love her daughter and that bringing up a young child can be challenging.
The court hears that things started to change once Walker met Simpson and introduced him to her family home.
Walker confirms that Isabelle suffered no serious injuries or broken bones before Simpson became part of her life.
She confirms that there were no concerns from doctors about Isabelle before Simpson started staying at her home.
Mr Wright says Isabelle's life went from happy and normal to suffering 21 fractured bones and being covered in bruises in just 89 days when she died.
The court hears they were a couple for around three months and the toddler was being terribly abused both physically and sexually within a matter of weeks.
"She went from being happy to being battered and broken before her death," he says.
11:57am17/07/26
Isabelle's injuries
Walker accepts that the injuries to her head were consistent with a high-speed car crash.
Mr Wright puts it to her that whoever inflicted the injuries intended to cause serious damage to Isabelle and that she was murdered and seriously sexually assaulted.
Walker agrees and says she wants to know the truth about how her daughter died and wants the person to face justice.
"You wouldn't want to protect the person who had murdered your child, would you?" he asks.
Walker replies yes and reiterates that she wouldn't do anything to protect the person who murdered Isabelle.

11:53am17/07/26
Cross examination
Richard Wright KC, prosecuting, will cross examine Alexandra Walker this morning.
The barrister is taking the 26-year-old through the catalogue of injuries her daughter, Isabelle Welsh, suffered are being put to her.
She confirms that none of them were an accident and accepts that they were all inflicted by an adult caring for her.
11:51am17/07/26
Hearing resumes
There has been a delay this morning while one of the barristers was engaged in another hearing.
 
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Upintheair83

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Seems like Simpson knew he had done some damage if at 2.53 walker said she was going to wake isabel and he walked out of the house in cctv at 3pm. That's how I'm interpreting it anyway.
 
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What's your point

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Hopefully a guilty verdict will come back today for both of them as there is no way either of them are innocent of this.

Another child let down by her parents, family anf the system how many more times do we have to see this happen.
 
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