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Happytobedivorced

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Thank you for sharing these.
I had to stop reading as more and more fractures were listed. All I can think about is how much pain this poor child must have been in. Words fail me 😡
 
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Borrible

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I think they're both guilty AF, but mother is playing the female / victim card and trying to push blame onto the bf.

I wonder if they both got totally wasted and both participated in Isabelle's death that night. She then wakes up with the mother of all hangovers in the cold light of day, realises its gone past the point of no return and tries to connive her way out of it by making out she doesn't realise anything's wrong, does her Google searches etc. Bf fucks off out and she takes advantage of that.

Only my opinion though and I hope that the full facts and truth will come out in court, without the 'I'm a female and victim of DV' wool being pulled over anyone's eyes.
 
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Emsie

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Thank you to the flight mode queen for dropping the transcripts. It's really helpful.
 
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It’s not been mentioned that AW claimed Isabelle fell down the stairs afaik. Maybe she was going to claim that to her stepdad but it went out the window when he arrived to see her dead. I think AW just carried her down and put her there. It was reported that AW and the stepdad sat in the kitchen chatting and laughing while the paramedics were working, she didn’t even come through to check never mind be close to Isabelle.
 
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scot_nursey003

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Fuck, this is so so awful. I haven’t been able to get the horrors of what happened to Preston out of my head and now comes along this 😔😔 it’s absolutely breaking my heart thinking about how sad, scared, sore and tired these poor poor babies must feel.
 
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Refracton

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"When Isabelle came in the state she was in, she was covered in bruising," she said. "A tube was put in place to relieve pressure from stomach but we were pulling off blood - we knew we were dealing with a child that had suffered significant trauma.

"She was covered top to toe in bruises, including the genital area and anus."

Why was this not stopped then? If this was noted at the hospital.
 
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Tanley

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I’m confused, as one sentence says the boyfriend was up in the morning with Isabelle while the mother slept off ten cans of Stella. But another sentence says that Isabelle wasn’t seen on camera at all that day.
I think the report of a loud thump on the wall sounds like the fatal head injury. Maybe these two specimens just put the poor child to bed afterwards and hoped she’d ‘get over it’ 😡
 
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Emsie

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Unless the child was sitting somewhere public, completely unsupervised, he’d have to get into the private bathroom property of someone else, physically get to her, fend off the attempts of her mother or anyone else to protect her and take the child. In this case with the DV allegations he’d probably have been arrested just for being outside the house, even if he managed to get in he would have been arrested for breaking in, he’d be arrested for whatever he did to fend off the mother. And it would all have been on TV. Plus he had absolutely no idea Isabelle was being abused. People always say ‘oh I would just have gone and taken the child if it was me’, but no, they wouldn’t. Otherwise we’d have thousands of Dads kidnapping their kids because the mothers had got new boyfriends.

Given how manipulative AW has been shown to be and the repeated false allegations she made, there’s a distinct possibility the DV didn’t even happen. But even if it did, he never harmed Isabelle, he’s her bereaved parent, it’s not his fault.
I think we all agree that Isabelle's death is not JWs fault. He didn't smash her head in, sexually abused her and leave her alone whilst she was in cardiac arrest.
Most of us are frustrated as he did nothing for the baby whilst she was alive because sHe WoNt lEt Me SeE mY kID whilst he ignores the fact that there were many ways he could have seen his kid and he choose not to do so and as it turns out, the poor baby needed him more than ever.
 
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zogsmum

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There’s an article in The Sun, Isabelle’s dad has spoken out. They broke up last March 2025, and she started a relationship with Harrison 3 months later. She used drink lager and become violent towards him. He also did alert social services about his concerns after the broken leg, but they didn’t do anything. Alex wouldn’t let him see Isabelle.
 
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Am I correct in thinking there was a delay of 5 or more days from the bairn having her leg broken to them seeking treatment? Then AW has kicked off in the hospital? Why was there not emergency intervention for a full child protection medical done? Anyone on here with any relevant knowledge who can explain why this might happen please? I’m sure if you took your dog to the vets in that state you would be reported at least 😡
 
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Cry me a river

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Jurors were told Isabelle suffered 21 fractures, including a fatal one to her skull, as well as enduring significant sexual abuse in the weeks leading up to her death.

21 fractures 😕 my heart breaks a bit more with every word I read .
 
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Cry me a river

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In the UK we have a court system that everyone can use. You go to court and get a contact order. If one person doesn't obey the court order you take it back to court.
I've no time for dad's like this.
Whilst he wasn't seeing Isabelle, was he sending money to contribute to her lifestyle? Was he putting money into a separate account for her? Was he in touch with organisations that can help fathers? Was he doing anything to heal himself to stop him abusing Isabelle's mother? Was he apologising for the abuse he inflicted on her? Was he trying to make amends?
I share your views completely.
He wasn’t there when she was alive so why try to be the doting father now .
Too little too late ,he doesn’t fool me .
 
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Hope these fuckers rot. AW definitely knew she must have knew I have a child of a similar age daily routines of nappy changes baths she must have saw clearly brusing. I actually think she might have been apart of it the whole thing. I pray these 2 beasts rot such evil to an innocence wee child.
Sorry but how the fuck the Gran and Stepdad didn't notice broken bones is fucking beyond me too and Significant brusing. Was this we baby just failed by everyone around her?? And I tell u this if I am a gran one day anyone bathing my grandchild staying in the Same house etc WOULD be meeting me anxiety or not bullshit.
 
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RinsedHoops

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It seems she’s trying to paint herself as someone who’s incapable of making any decisions on her own, given she apparently wasn’t able to understand she needed to call an ambulance while her daughter lay black and blue and unresponsive
 
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Lucymyers

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What I find astonishing is that AW got up at 11am, simply took HS' word that Isabelle was napping, and she didn't wake her until 3pm when she returned from the shop. Regardless of whether Isabelle was "unwell", what 2.5 year old child naps for over 4 hours during the daytime?!

I just can't comprehend how a parent would not worry enough to wake the child to see if they were OK, take temperature, give some water etc. Especially if they were supposed to be ill.

I can't help but feel there's so much more to this than we will ever know. It's heartbreaking and Isabelle deserved so much more 💔
I agree. So much more to it. So many lies told. Tbf if a child was ill they may nap for 4 hours but youd check on them all throughout the 4 hours wouldnt you
 
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GingerJones50

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If he had pr no he wouldnt be arrested
Unless the child was sitting somewhere public, completely unsupervised, he’d have to get into the private bathroom property of someone else, physically get to her, fend off the attempts of her mother or anyone else to protect her and take the child. In this case with the DV allegations he’d probably have been arrested just for being outside the house, even if he managed to get in he would have been arrested for breaking in, he’d be arrested for whatever he did to fend off the mother. And it would all have been on TV. Plus he had absolutely no idea Isabelle was being abused. People always say ‘oh I would just have gone and taken the child if it was me’, but no, they wouldn’t. Otherwise we’d have thousands of Dads kidnapping their kids because the mothers had got new boyfriends.

Given how manipulative AW has been shown to be and the repeated false allegations she made, there’s a distinct possibility the DV didn’t even happen. But even if it did, he never harmed Isabelle, he’s her bereaved parent, it’s not his fault.
 
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