I'm sure the money raised will be more than welcome despite the confusion.
I've sat on my hands many a time rather than type out something in haste.
A thick skin definitely comes in handy at times.
Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #208 Dupee, or not Dupee, that is the question
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I've sat on my hands many a time rather than type out something in haste.
A thick skin definitely comes in handy at times.
There's always a court reporter who is taking down the transcript of any hearing or trial. They are independent and the lawyers pay them for a transcript of the hearing if one is needed. (A transcript is not always needed or wanted, so it's not prepared unless someone orders it.) Since transcripts are copyrighted, I can only post summaries, not the transcript itself.
Thanks - I get that. But why wouldn't a transcript always be needed by the lawyers? To cross the eyes and dot the ts?
Alice is a toad. She thinks this is actually Selma.
Sorry! I misunderstood your question. Transcripts are not always needed. Since the lawyers are in the courtroom (or attending by zoom) they usually take good notes and there's no reason to go back to the hearing transcript for anything. If they ever want to get the transcript, it's usually to make sure they are complying with every word of the judge when he or she makes an order (especially if they have to prepare the order, like Ioan's team had to do), or if a party interrupted the judge multiple times and that was to be used later to show someone's mental state at trial, etc. The transcripts are always there "just in case" but there's no reason to spend money to have them prepared if there's no specific reason.
As someone who has been on Twitter a long time, let me clear up exactly how sock accounts and stuff can and will be revealed.
First, I still call it Twitter.
Next the ability to block and keep people blocked is a permanent thing. Elon the monster quickly walked backed the notion of no blocking when his own fanboys fought back on it - along with the entire rest of Twitter. So blocking remains.
For those that don't follow American politics, there was just a huge court case over a court order filed to retrieve Trump's Twitter posts, deleted posts and - most importantly - his direct messages sent and received from others.
Elon had refused to turn them over in a timely manner. He was hit with a huge fine and had to turn them over. To the best of my somewhat insider knowledge - subpoenas for accounts are now being turned over rapidly.
People can hide behind VPN's etc, but they will be caught. Alice is small beans in the Twitter world but these subpoenas are definitely being used in regards to death threats and - unfortunately the American disease - shootings etc.
Just to clear up a few things.
PS. I call this "housekeeping."
First, I still call it Twitter.
Next the ability to block and keep people blocked is a permanent thing. Elon the monster quickly walked backed the notion of no blocking when his own fanboys fought back on it - along with the entire rest of Twitter. So blocking remains.For those that don't follow American politics, there was just a huge court case over a court order filed to retrieve Trump's Twitter posts, deleted posts and - most importantly - his direct messages sent and received from others.
Elon had refused to turn them over in a timely manner. He was hit with a huge fine and had to turn them over. To the best of my somewhat insider knowledge - subpoenas for accounts are now being turned over rapidly.
People can hide behind VPN's etc, but they will be caught. Alice is small beans in the Twitter world but these subpoenas are definitely being used in regards to death threats and - unfortunately the American disease - shootings etc.
Just to clear up a few things.
PS. I call this "housekeeping."
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I hope Ioan doesn't have to pay this biich a penny in spousal support. I'd sue her for defamation and garnish her future wages.
I hope she ends up homeless.
I hope she ends up homeless.
Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable.
Whilst I don't reckon she thinks the poster is Selma she's obviously pissed that she's been told Selma has been vocal in her support of Bianca.
Unbelievable.
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She will have no medical insurance she means, which at the end of the day she is all that matters. Plus they're divorced she should have stopped receiving anything benefitting only her from him a long time ago!
So Alice finally admits that Ioan HAS been paying medical insurance for the kids all this time, even though she usually vehemently claims he pays nothing towards them?
Correct me if I'm wrong @Hiraeth , but I know here in New York, a parent continuing a child's health insurance if they have been covering it is considered a continual "given" in a divorce case with children and will be placed in a final court order in regards to custody matters.
I believe you're absolutely correct.
another "break up with her or else"
them being rattled over Selma is gold
Bianca got the blue tick before you could pay for it. Thanks to Alice, really. Some DM articles are more than enough
disgusting convo, but not surprising for a woman who never thanked for donations and her minions
at least they are honest. yes, a entitled witch like Alice would say "why so little"
PS: Ioan/Bianca seemingly donated $250
The GAL has already done what we expected, loser
now the medical insurance she will keep claiming until SHE (not them, thats legally not possible) actually will lose it next year, then she forgets that she once claimed something else. was same with the house
them being rattled over Selma is gold
Bianca got the blue tick before you could pay for it. Thanks to Alice, really. Some DM articles are more than enough
disgusting convo, but not surprising for a woman who never thanked for donations and her minions
at least they are honest. yes, a entitled witch like Alice would say "why so little"
PS: Ioan/Bianca seemingly donated $250
The GAL has already done what we expected, loser
she always moves goalposts. only her minions have not catched this
now the medical insurance she will keep claiming until SHE (not them, thats legally not possible) actually will lose it next year, then she forgets that she once claimed something else. was same with the house
How stupid is Alice? It says right here in plain English that Ioan pays $1,250 per month completely out of pocket for the kids' health insurance, and an extra $900 per month for medical costs not covered by insurance. (I've highlighted the entries in Ioan's financial declaration.)
Meanwhile, Alice's own financial declaration shows that she pays NOTHING for medical insurance and pays $200 per month for items not covered by insurance. Again, highlights are mine:
Meanwhile, Alice's own financial declaration shows that she pays NOTHING for medical insurance and pays $200 per month for items not covered by insurance. Again, highlights are mine:
That was along the lines of what I was expecting thank you. I wonder how much he knew about what he was walking in to? The transcript of the hearing with just the legal people should be interesting!
Alice's socks and supporters can't read, so I doubt they've read the court documents.
Not laughing at the question but at the thought of low-rent Bernal mixing it with high-powered Anne
Thank you @Hiraeth this is really helpful.Here's my summary finally!
Order Appointing Child Custody Evaluator Summary
At the last hearing, the Judge ordered that Dr. Dupee be appointed as child custody evaluator. However, the physical mechanics of getting Dr. Dupee appointed require that all the parties consent to Dr. Dupee’s policies and procedures, and Judge Josh signing the court order. Judge Josh asked Anne Kiley to prepare the necessary documents, and this latest court filing is what Anne Kiley prepared. The only thing left to do is for Judge Josh to sign it. (This will be uploaded to the court’s website once signed; I don’t recommend spending money to download it again since the filing will be identical except for Judge Josh’s signature.)
As an aside, it looks like Dr. Dupee pronounces her last name the French way, so her last name is pronounced “Du-PAY.”
Anyway, there are two parts to the court order: the court form at the beginning plus the stipulation among the parties consenting to Dr. Dupee’s appointment as child custody evaluator. Note that the consents are a foregone conclusion since Judge Josh already ordered Dr. Dupee’s appointment at the last hearing (the ex parte hearing on August 17). In other words, everyone had to consent otherwise they would have been compelled to consent.
The court form at the beginning of the order is a standard form with checkboxes, so what it says is that Dr. Dupee, a private child custody evaluator, is appointed to do a full child custody evaluation. Judge Josh has the legal authority to do this under Family Code Section 3111 (power to appoint a child custody evaluator) and Evidence Code Section 730 (power to appoint an expert who will investigate, render a report to the judge, and testify at trial). Happily, this document uses the children’s full legal names and does not omit their legal last name.
The remainder of the form is mostly blank because the issues are too voluminous to type in the limited space available on the form, so there is an attachment to the form, as indicated on page 1.
Within 10 days of receipt of the signed court order, Dr. Dupee must file her qualifications with the court.
There are additional court orders attached in one long stipulation/order attachment, which we will see in a moment. Per California court rules, a proper court order with attachments is signed by the judge on the last page, so that no one can secretly add a page to the court order.
The Stipulation and Order attachment gives us a good sense of what Dr. Dupee is being hired to do, and what her powers and responsibilities are during the child custody evaluation. (A stipulation is a document where all parties agree to something, and it is often filed in court attached to an order for the judge to sign, in order to “make it so.”)
The stipulation states that Dr. Dupee is appointed to conduct a private child custody evaluation “to determine the legal and physical custody” of the children and to give the judge “recommendations that are in the best interests of the minor children.”
Both of the attorneys (Anne Kiley and Bernal Ojeda) may have a joint conference call with Dr. Dupee to fill her in on the issues, as well as provide her with the parties’ contact information and the date of trial. No attorney can contact Dr. Dupee separately—they must both speak to her together. Mr. Langlois is not involved in this aspect of the case because he is handling the financial issues, not the custody issues, for Ioan.
This attachment orders Alice and Ioan to “fully cooperate with Dr. Dupee’s evaluation.” The evaluation may include interviews with Alice, Ioan, and the children; home visits; review of records (including medical, school, or court records), photographs, and audio/video recordings. This tells me that Dr. Dupee will likely be shown the video where Ella was upset that Alice did not stop drinking on her birthday and in response Alice called Ella a “witch” and told her that she and Elsie would be sent to Gloria’s for the week for not agreeing with her. Any other video or audio recording they have may be shown to Dr. Dupee if she wants to see it.
Dr. Dupee may consider information from “police records, DCFS (Department of Children and Family Services) records, reports of teachers and doctors, other professionals’ reports, and “other collateral reports” (a catchall provision). Dr. Dupee will have access to health, mental health, education, and employment records (for the parents AND the children), as well as the power to confer with doctors, therapists, teachers and any other person. Each party waives all privileges to any records except the attorney-client privilege (no right to confidential communications between a client and the client’s attorney) and the attorney work product privilege (no right to see internal documents an attorney prepares in the course of representing someone). The GAL waives the privileges for the children, NOT the parents, so Alice can’t refuse to waive them. Each party can also request that Dr. Dupee interview other household or family members (such as Bianca or Gloria). Any records that a party wants Dr. Dupee to view must be provided to that party’s attorney, who will copy it to the opposing attorney and to Dr. Dupee. Dr. Dupee has the choice to view, or not view, any records she believes are relevant.
Both Alice and Ioan will undergo limited psychological testing which will be performed by a licensed psychologist for an additional fee. Dr. Dupee can request further psychological testing on the parties if she feels it is warranted.
Oh hey, there’s our Sanchez waiver again, making an appearance. Because both sides waived the ruling in the Sanchez case, Dr. Dupee’s confidential report may be entered into evidence even though she may rely on “hearsay evidence” to prepare the report. Dr. Dupee may be cross-examined at trial, however. Dr. Dupee’s report is strictly confidential and will be sealed; no one except the attorneys and the judge may see it, absent a court order; however, a copy of the report may be provided to any therapist working with the children or the parents, and the contents of the report may be discussed in front of court staff during any hearing, trial, or deposition.
There are several paragraphs on Dr. Dupee’s fee, which I won’t really summarize in great detail; she has a retainer of $7,500 and an hourly fee of $475, plus an administrative fee of $1,000. Her fee for court testimony is $5,000 per day or $2,750 per half day. Note that if a party doesn’t cooperate to pay Dr. Dupee, the other party can advance her fee and the other party must immediately cooperate to reimburse that party from the blocked account.
After Dr. Dupee receives the initial retainer of $7,500 and the signed stipulation, she will book evaluation appointments with Alice and Ioan. During the first evaluation appointment, both Alice and Ioan will be asked to sign an Informed Consent regarding the evaluation procedures, which will have been provided to them and their attorneys in advance. This is just an additional consent to Dr. Dupee’s procedures.
Both Alice and Ioan will fill out Child Custody Evaluation Questionnaires for Dr. Dupee. An example of a Child Custody Evaluation Questionnaire was posted by someone earlier in the thread, if you’d like to see an example.
Dr. Dupee will be sent all court orders and children’s school records, as well as police reports and psychiatric hospitalization records pertinent to custody. However, Dr. Dupee will not intervene in any issues other than to report suspected child abuse or warn a potential victim of danger. If everyone agrees, psychotherapists may be used for urgent problems which occur during the evaluation. If there are domestic violence issues or child abuse issues, full disclosure of all allegations must be made to Dr. Dupee. (So she will be made aware of the Domestic Violence Restraining Order against Alice.) Dr. Dupee’s file may not be made available to anyone other than the lawyers, the judge, or therapists, absent a subpoena or court order.
Dr. Dupee is acting in a quasi-judicial capacity and thus may not be sued in relation to the child custody evaluation (she is immune to lawsuits). The stipulation also releases Dr. Dupee from any liability relating to the evaluation, and the other professionals with whom Dr. Dupee consults are also immune to lawsuits relating to the evaluation.
Happy to answer any questions anyone may have.
Edit: here's a PDF version:
You've confirmed something I thought I'd spotted, which is that Dr Dupée will have access to Alice's medical records. I can't imagine she'll be happy about that, especially as it'll prove her 102 ailments are fictional
I bet Emma could use therapy too.
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