Hope for Harley

[boujiemoon]

it just reinforces it for me that they have always known the outlook and his challenges/limitations, but have decided to chance their hand at boosting their bank balance, grifting for as much as they can get In his name.

 

[messytessy]

What happens if you scam? What sis they do? Did they donate etc?

He was in thousands of pounds in debt with a business that was suspiciously paid off days after they started the gfm. Its all in their thread (ashley cain but both are discussed there).

 

[allthetimeextra]

Following - I get all sorts of bad vibes from this whole situation. That poor lad.

 

[nathan25]

When you are terminal or have a life changing illness the council or charities will help with living needs etc. they would have paid to turn that room in to a bedroom for Harley.
Another strange thing how no charities are helping her she’s not getting support from anyone just the people on TikTok who believes her bull Shit.
I totally get Harley could have surgery to help him be more comfortable but I don’t think it will ever totally fix him. Like someone also said… how can he fly if his lung capacity is so bad.
Ollie’s mum put receipts up for everything. She never once went live or done 125 videos to get paid. She also refused to put a wish list up. Maybe the police need to take a closer look at Kelly and universal credit for all her gifts she’s getting and probably not declaring! I wish the hospital would speak out as she’s slagging them off.
She has said GOS hospital failed her son bla bla but she can’t take them to court. It just don’t add up.
someone wrote in her comments they have emailed them to say they are being slandered all over TikTok. She has deleted the comment which makes me think suspicious. Why didn’t she answer them. Well I hope The hospital responds to her claims! Anyone know what the GFM is on now?

 

[onefineday]

Come across a tik tok that was against this gfm so I come to find this thread.

I've always felt something was off but wasn't sure what.

I also find the Dad to come across uncomfortable..... so was wondering what other people's options were.

Yes i feel this , the way harley acts with his dad makes me feel uncomfortable, there is said it dont hate me

 

[orphankiller88]

If she made a tiktok account for awareness, fine. If she made an account explaining his challenges and limitations, how he is expected to deteriorate and the different ways this will present, such as eyesight, hearing, spine deformity, lung function.. again fine. Even if she was open and honest and said "this is my boys reality, and there's limitations to what we can do for him, but what we want to do is make some bucket list dreams come true...get him to spurs, meet his favourite player, have a dream holiday.. " I think the wider public would be absolutely fine with it and be open to donating to give him a boost and support him to make the most of his circumstances.

Telling the world he's only got til now to raise 2.5M, or he can't be saved, that his life depends on it, with all the discrepancies that are coming to light. Pushing it on news channels, to the media, all with the same narrative that his death is imminent and will be painful and undignified while he mobilises well, up and down the stairs, has a fluctuating need for oxygen but largely isn't on it and plays on his computer consoles happily singing, all the things that would put his body under exertion but doesn't seem to? No. Not ok.

I follow a little girl who isn't expected to make her 2nd birthday, her condition is grave, her parents are facing what would be everyone's nightmare. Yet they only seek to raise awareness. They Meet her needs financially themselves via working, ask for nothing for them or even her. The only thing that they have asked for was an Amazon wishlist that benefit the hospice and hospital their baby attends and all the gifts were reasonably priced, carefully chosen, for the benefit of other children so they each could have a nice Christmas. That's what it's about

I think another issue is you do just get desensitised to stuff like this. Especially recently on Tik Tok there's always someone doing a go fund me, an amazon wishlist, fund raisers etc. You do sympathise with what people are going through but without sounding like a complete cunt, charity starts at home and things are really tough for most at the moment. But you especially don't want to part with money when the mother is rude, dictating to people who they can and can't donate to or else they'll get blocked and dictating to what cause they should support and also not being clear on what the money being raised will be used for with breakdown costs. It probably also doesn't help that he's 14, sounds harsh but Ollie was just a baby and actually needed life saving surgery.

 

[GlitterFairySparkle]

Yes and there eye opening I follow Dionne and just added bbygurl very interesting what they have uncovered! I’m new to the thread just and caught up, but myself and my daughter from the start had bad vibes off Kelly she’s about as genuine as a gold plated Rolex and the dad he can barely look at the camera or string a sentence together maybe he’s not as good a actor as Kelly aye? Anyway it all just stinks and I’m so glad I’ve found this thread. The comment he made again on a video yesterday I think it was about him bypassing mummy to cuddle daddy and he said “lick daddy” ?! Kelly laughed and said nooo not lick daddy like wtf is that about it’s very all strange

Like yourself I'm new to this thread and not only am I happy I found it, I'm relieved I'm not the only one that gets bad vibes from Kelly & the husband. I usually try to donate to as many GFM as I can, however on this occasion I got a very strong gut feeling from the first video that was sent to me. I'm glad I never donated from the video shared to me and actually trusted me gut for once. I've sat for almost two weeks now watching Kelly's videos, read the GFM, seen multiple videos on the FYP, read comment sections and so many things aren't adding up. I think she's made things sound worse than what they are, she doesn't come across well whatsoever, the husbands behaviour on camera & tv seem very odd, she seems extra sensitive to fair comments asking about the funds and what ifs and Kelly doesn't explain things clearly only leaving people with more questions than answers.

I do hope Harley is OK and gets all the help in life and medically that he needs. I'd never wish bad on a child but Kelly hasn't done Harley any favours by the way she conducts herself especially with the rotten attitude she has. I find her very manipulative and controlling and think Harley's GFM would of done better if she wasn't involved. The tiktok battles and her gifting other creator's doesn't sit well with me at all. The way she speaks about GOSH I think the hospital need to conduct their own investigations into Kelly & the husband. GOSH is a world famous hospital for treating the most sick and vulnerable children so I believe everything including the risks would of been explained to them in great detail before Kelly consented on Harley's operation and she's not happy it hasn't turned out the way she wanted it too even though she was aware of the risks.

Also I don't believe GFM should allow people to withdraw any money out until the target has reached 90% complete maybe or the amount that's been raised should be highlighted even if funds have been withdrawn. It's public money people kindly donated so we should have a clear understanding in the funds.

 

[My2pWorth]

Who was live? Kelly? What was said? I missed it 🫤

There's a few vids up on Dionne and bbygurl account. Basically Kelly mouthing off because she was on with some travellers. Kelly said Harley only spoke inappropriately once, which we've all seen isn't true. Kelly also accused Dionnes mum of watching her be SA'd, which Dionne said isn't true. Honestly the whole live was a toxic bullying fest. Threats being made to harm all those exposing and questioning the inaccuracies. Now Kelly has put a video up asking people to mass report the accounts. But still no proof of the total raised!

The one thing I will say though, is despite all the nasty shit thrown at Dionne, she's bounced it straight back with receipts! (Check out her latest few vids)

 

[aalmaalm]

I’m glad I found this thread.
I don’t know if I’m being totally off here. But she says Harley should not have had surgery in the first place and this is why he needs more surgery etc. but I just feel like they would have told her every single risk before that operation. My child has had to a few surgeries for her medical condition and they say absolutely everything that can happen - it’s hard and frightening to hear but they HAVE to say these things. I think that’s why she can’t/wont sue them as she won’t have a leg to stand on. Just my two pence

 

[orphankiller88]

Why has she made a post to prove his disability and name of the condition? As far as I'm aware nobody is disputing that or questioning it. It's very obvious that he is disabled. What people need answers to is where is the donation money going? Is it all being used for Harley's care and how much has been raised in total? Because as of yet, no clear figures have been shared and if you're asking for money then you need to provide clarity. The fundraising target hasn't been made and yet they deadline date has been changed- why? Why a deadline in the first place if it can be changed so freely? Why are people's questioned deleted and then are consequently blocked for asking about funds? These are the questions she should be answering.

 

[Ohmygoshh]

I find her interactions with Harley generally a bit weird It’s like she constantly wants to baby him and I’m not sure if he’s as receptive to it?

Like the one video where he’s calling for his dad to cuddle with him and she asks these leading questions on whether it makes him feel better. It just all felt forced

One of the interest things with the condition is that it doesn’t affect your mental development, so it’s not even that his mental development is somehow delayed

What is said the other day it looks animated and fake i wonder if she talks to him like that off camera i know she said he is delayed but all the fire questions and her even answer for him (what do we say yes mummy) and he repeats its bloody weird. Gives me gypsy rose vibes

 

[boujiemoon]

She has 100% maintained from very early on that they only had til the beginning of April to raise the full balance, the full 2.5M Non negotiable. In her lives with some creators who offered to raise money, they asked the deadline, and she maintained it was early April (around 5th of the month), one chap said he had good intentions and good steady plans that would make a lot of money, no doubt about it, he did the math and knew a good figure would be made but it would be a push to get it for the first week of April, it was on this she changed her tune and said it would be fine at the end of April or whenever the chap calculated would be the ’payday’.. Which again begs the question how urgent or genuine is the cause if you can move the goalposts so frequently? I’m reading now in comments that she goes in for TikTok battles and apparently has a high gifting badge? So, she’s happy to fritter money away on TT, money she needs desperately and likely money in her account that’s accumulated from gifts she received? I get that they take a large percentage of earnings, but surely that’s more reason to seek other support or start some independent fundraising? Or at least cash out what few pounds left after TT take their cut, given that every penny helps?

 

[jesskaxo91]

Dad saying ppl taking money of us tells me ppl are requesting refunds, and rightly so if they can't be transparent from the start. It's all one big mess.

 

[LeafyGreenandClean]

How awful

 

[GlitterFairySparkle]

She is caught lying, every single time! All the receipts babygurl has posted and does not paint Kelly in a good light at all!!!
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Doesn't look good whenever you see it all together like this. Kelly appears to trip herself up time after time. It's a shame for Harley but Kelly should never of ran this campaign.

 

[AilimeEsor]

What i find extremely strange is the lack of presence from her local community, neighbours, school parents etc people who know her personally all rallying around (on SM) a big thing like this people love the lime light, oh im kellys neighbour etc we've raised such and such, nothing, zero, silence. The silence to me is deafening and speaks volumes to them as people. Someone in my town is raising money for her little boy and MH support groups are doing charity walks, estate agents are doing a charity swim, the church is doing cake sales, schools are even trying to help and the local radio. The gratitude from the parents is a complete 180 to kellys though and the mother is constantly on the streets campaigning for her son.

That’s it. We’ve had a couple cases in my community of people fundraising for their children, and all the local small businesses, pubs, etc are all rallying to raise money on social media etc! I do find it very very odd

 

[bracrumbs]

This is all properly chavtastic

 

[AilimeEsor]

How awful

Wow. Way for Kelly to make it about her though. I feel for Harley I really do, but as a parent, your first thought should ALWAYS be your child. I say this as someone who suffered with severe depression. I can’t see this GFM reaching target. I hope Harley gets his op, but realistically it isn’t going to happen.

 

[Ohmygoshh]

anyone who asks a reasonable question is now a troll, rentagob is raising awareness on berts bpan and harleys army are trying to sabotage it.what a complete shit show

 

[brownstone]

She's definitely been taking money out. I screenshot the total earlier and the donations made since don't add up to the amount it's at now 🫠