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imtakingabath

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Watched Hannah's update on her fertility journey today, I thought it was nice of her to acknowledge that people hadn't been speculating or asking about her attempts to conceive on other videos etc. and that she appreciated it. I think it shows the mutual respect between Hannah and her viewers. Fingers crossed she and Dan manage to conceive soon or at least make some progress with diagnosing what's causing Hannah's fertility issues.
 
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whataboutit

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Ooh that article really didn’t land well. I think she’s absolutely allowed to feel how she feels and I don’t think you have have it the worst to talk about your struggles but she’s still only be trying for months and if it was me, I would leave this space, at least publicly, for someone else with more challenges to speak on the topic. Her first child took A year of trying.. not years, and with no fertility help needed. Which seems pretty ok going given her challenges with her cycle. She says the friends who announced their pregnancies together, those kids have been born now. So she was only literally at the earliest stage of trying at that point when she’s bursting out crying at her friends news and claiming it’s not fair. Also “mourning” not having a 2 year gap, when her first child is still only 2 is ridiculous. I know people have “ideal” gaps but they rarely work out EXACTLY. Having potentially a 3 year gap is something that causes her to mourn?
The topic is a real, valid thing that’s difficult, but i feel like she’s managed to make it sound like she’s holding a pity party for herself a bit prematurely here.
 
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Starfishface

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I struggle to feel sorry for people who are bummed about not being able to get pregnant when they already have a child

Like yeah, I get it, you want them to have a sibling

But at least you HAVE a child already?

Full disclaimer, I'm an only child and currently don't have kids so maybe I just don't get it lol

Don't feel sorry for her though
This actually might be the reason I unfollow her. As someone now into their third year of IVF trying to have our first, I have no sympathy at all for someone whinging about not having a second.
 
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9961

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Maybe it’s just me, but I thought the video about pegging was…strange? Not the concept of pegging, but the fact that she made a whole video about it when it’s not even something she does herself? Like what gives her the authority to give any advice about it? Couldn’t she have had a discussion with someone who’s actually into it so that it wasn’t just basic info being regurgitated. Also think it’s the kind of topic that would work better as a podcast episode.
 
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TurtletonTheThird

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I really think that donated/second hand stuff (which are not available in abundance) should be left for people who cannot afford buying everything new. Plus I would respect her more if she did it out of sustainability concerns. Now she just does it because it is cheaper unless a new thing is gifted to her.
As somebody who works in charity retail. There is no shortage of secondhand clothing for people. I think it's a good thing she is buying secondhand. It's better for the planet!
 
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I used to really like Hannah's content and did actually prefer her lifestyle content to the sex ed stuff. But I think removing the sex ed element to her job has highlighted that she is as aimless as every other influencer out there. Like she's said herself she's not a fashion expert and yet we've had multiple videos of her talking about clothes. Just feels like without her focus as a "sex educator" she doesn't bring anything unique to the table.
 
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CalatheaLater

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This might not be a popular take, but I think Hannah is going about her business the correct way. It's pretty common to hear YouTubers moan about how they are suffering burnout etc, and I'm sure that being a one-man production team (while also having to directly interact with comments) can be pretty stressful. By employing these these people she's making her business more sustainable for the future. (and isn't using her child for content which so many people seem to do!)
 
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Fuzzyslippers22

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And now she’s butt hurt when someone fairly points out that her content has no real point and is all over the place. I think she’s annoyed because she knows it’s true and it is true for most “lifestyle content” creators. It adds little value, she herself compares it to reality TV.. so mind numbing, lazy content that’s just vehicle for advertising. But how dare a viewer call it out for what it is!!
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I don't find this message rude at all. But we all know influencers can't take any kind of feedback on board. Normal 9-6 jobs will have annual if not multiple times a year performance reviews, these influencers would not stand a chance
 
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Sprezza

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I'm a cosleeping floor bed mama. I wouldn't have chosen this if you'd asked me when pregnant but it's what has worked for us in order to get our toddler to sleep and for us to get a decent night sleep

Breastfeeding at his age is still very normal, I know people who breastfed until their little one was 4/5+


So an almost 2 year old still breastfeeding and needing support to sleep is pretty biologically normal
😧😧😧 My friend's 5 year old makes her own breakfast in the morning! There is no reason for a 5 year old to be sucking on a boob.
 
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Snackella

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I think Hannah is dedicated to her YouTube-channels as what they are - her work. She made well thought out plans for how her maternity leave was going to go. She seems very smart about the way she works on YouTube, she treats it like actual work and so many influencers could learn from her ways.
 
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replace32titles

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I think Hannah is one of the more productive YouTubers of her generation, who puts out two videos a week every week except the odd holiday once or twice a year and treats her work as work and she's clearly quite business-minded - this is the fourth year in a row she's done a public analysis of her income and showed she's putting thought into where it's coming from and surviving if the YouTube/brand deals thing ever collapses.

But.

I had a look at her Patreon and assuming everyone's on the lowest tier (which they're clearly not), and using that figure to put cold hard numbers against her percentages, she's earning more in a month than I am in a year. I don't feel like she's even one of the bigger YouTubers and her main channel isn't as monetisable as a lot of the others and if Hannah's earning these monumental amounts, how on earth much are others getting? *scurries off to find a camera and a chair to switch career*
 
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fidgetjo

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I watched her fashion video and honestly you could play a drinking game every-time she mentions breastfeeding / needing to ‘whip a boob out’. I understand it needing to be a consideration when buying clothes but yikes it’s every other sentence in the video. WE GET IT HANNAH YOU BREASTFEED.
 
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LizzieJ29

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I’ve always found the emoji over the child’s face thing very virtue signal-y, when used by influencers. If you don't want to post pictures of your child's face, great! But then just don't post photos featuring them at all, rather than a normal picture of them but with a emoji over their face?
 
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astridivy

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Had to unfollow. All the breastfeeding content is too much. Idk if it’s just where I live but breastfeeding (Australia) is already ‘normalised’ and accepted and no one needs a million posts of her baby on the boob/pumping bottles hanging out of her bra. Couldn’t breastfeed because of my baby’s health conditions and I just find it triggering. I feel like people use ‘normalising’ breastfeeding as a way to just brag about how they’ve ‘stuck with it’ on social media and it’s this big superiority complex
 
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Kiki13

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But that is the thing she is extremely privileged to have employees that do her work for her and a partner and childminder who help mind her child for her. She does not have it difficult and should not be complaining she chose to have a baby, she chose to breastfeed/pump, she chose to go back to work. I don't have any empathy for her she has it much easier than alot of people.



She is not struggling financially she has enough money to pay her mortgage, have a baby and hire employees and her partner works full time and in the IT sector. But the thing is she is extremely privileged and is complaining about the difficulties when in reality how much work does she actually do and how much time does she actually spend with her child its abit ridiculous.
Honestly sometimes I think folks online can't win (and listen I love a rant about them as much as the next person). If she was saying everything was rosy and great, people would be critiquing her for having no awareness of how difficult it can be, setting unrealistic expectations, being out of touch etc. But she talks about realities and difficulties (without conflating her struggles and those of people less privileged) and that's not okay either? Parenting is hard, retiring to work is hard, running a business is hard, affording to live and balancing making sure people on your payroll can live is hard, it's okay to say that, and for you to not be resenting your child or ignoring your privilege.
 
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replace32titles

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It's annual Bad Maths Day!

Starting with Patreon, which is the one we can be most accurate with (and I acknowledge that it's not accurate enough!):
Today, she has 988 patrons. At the lowest rate of £3 per month, that's £2,964 a month, £35,568 a year. At the highest rate of £8.50 per month, that's £8,398 a month or £100,776 a year. I know the real rate is somewhere in between and also Patreon will take a bunch of that but it's the best I have for a starting point for Bad Maths.

Patreon is 23.4% of her income.

That means 1% is minimum £1,520 and maximum £3,406.67.

Brand deals 45% = £68,400 / £193,800
Adsense 21.9% = £33,288 / £94,316
Patron 23.4% = £35,568 / £100,776
Affiliates 6.6% = £10,032 / £28,424
Podcast 0.8% £1,216 / £3,445
Merch 2% £3.040 / £8,613
Writing 0.2% £304 / £861.33
Total £151,848 / £430,236

Last year worked out at £203,626 / £576,942 so "lost one third of my income" is surprisingly accurate for the higher figure - a little out on the lower one but close enough.

If anyone wants to check my maths, I won't take offence and I'll point out again that I'm in the wrong job.
 
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CirceRises

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To be honest, Hannah has always seemed to have a such a basic and small amount of knowledge when it comes to anatomy so I have a feeling that she’ll make videos that cover topics that everyone already knows about, like “breastfeeding can be hard” or “use a nipple cream if it hurts” or “breast milk is good for your baby”.

Like, yeah, this isn’t new.

When she first started trying to get pregnant, I was shocked that she didn’t even know that the reproductive cycle had phases and didn’t even bother to properly figure what each of them were. This was someone who called themselves and sex expert.
 
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aplysia

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Only knew of hannah via Lucy moon, then on her own merit when she made her health / stoma videos which I thought was really brave as no one I'd seen online ever showed any health hurdles other than anxiety.

I've been having trouble sleeping, so rather than do anything useful or productive I read this thread last night to try and bore myself to sleep, and I have concluded that her husband does not like her

She suggested he move in with her as his lease was coming to an end, he didn't have anywhere to live, but no biggie, no stress, as his gf had conveniently bought a flat so he just sort of moved in. How romantic!

Then she proposed to him

She couldn't have a big wedding as it wasn't his style.l but it's ok she didn't really want one. I'm not convinced, but whatever. No speeches, bridesmaids, cars, professional photos. She didn't even wear a white dress as she wanted something to get more wear out of and white dresses are more expensive etc.
What a fairy-tale!

Now she birthed a son and he seems to do minimal childcare instead drinking cans of Stella while locked away in his room glued to his computer games like a teenager as she co sleeps with their son (on the floor??) feeding him on demand.

Living the dream!

Her sense of style is diabolical, I can see she's short with a very large chest but everything she chooses seems to make her look worse than before. She could look great if she choose flattering necklines and shapes, colours to make herself look taller etc. She appears determined to style herself as a wacky textiles teacher.

Her husband needs a good style over haul too, and primarily to do something with his hair. Washing it regularly could be a good start.
You missed the part where she went into labour and he continued playing a boardgame. 😬
 
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