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Dotty Merton

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Who is in Maria's painting?

"left to right: Donald Trump on the mushroom, Elon Musk in the sky, Bill Clinton on the television, Sarah Kellen in the school bus, Les Wexner as the peacock, Ghislaine Maxwell in the bubble, Alan Dershowitz whispering, Jeff Epstein in the UFO.

Across the top, left to right: Bradley Edwards, Sigrid Mcawley, unknown lawyer (Spencer Kuvin?), and David Boies as angles

Underground, left to right: Prince Andrew as a rat; Alexander Acosta and Jeff Bezos as bellends; unknown (Madia Marcinkova?), unknown (Giuliani? Wtf?), Vicky Ward, Graydon Carter, unknown (Cimberly Espinosa?) and Lesley Groff at as roots of the tree; Eileen Guggenheim as the hell hound."
 
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To be fair, you can't blame them. Whoever suicided Epstein, the French lad, and whoever will suicide Ghislaine, if they can do this to the people who victims thought were in charge, what hope do they have? They're not anyone of "importance" (and I mean that in the most basic way, of course they're important, but theyre not in positions of power that the now deceased were)
Ok, I understand that. Although Prince Andrew was clearly named.

But the police and the courts should be super interested in finding out who is involved, they could offer protection or even just find out from GM and bring her to the UK or a high security prison.

Epstein died before he named names, so the victims must be confident that they are not being considered as a threat - how can they be so confident? Especially as Prince Andrew was sued?

I don't really understand it.
 
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Money and power. I doubt we’ll ever know for sure - they will do anything and everything they can to protect themselves. The people that make and uphold the laws are undoubtedly involved. Anyone at risk of revealing anything will magically disappear or a ‘suicide’ will happen. There’s no way on this earth that Epstein killed himself.
That's so unfair.

But why don't the victims speak out?
 
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CuriousCat92

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I think it’s because they have to use the sentencing guidance/rules that were in place at the time of the offending. Looks like she will also have to pay a lot of money too. Whether that’s a fine or compensation I am not sure.
 
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SnoopySnooper86

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Possible house arrest in 7 years?! That’s such bull.
Probably sooner if she starts blabbing. The fact she wouldn’t even testify in her own trial because “you’ve not proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt” should be used against her and incur more jail time.
 
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thegirlscout

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They have two weeks (until 1 Jan) to appeal, but the list itself sounds like it won't be out until sometime after that. There are plenty of documents floating around though, it's easy to find a list of >100 people alleged to have been on the flights... and its an interesting mix with a lot of powerful women as well as men. Were they actively facilitating the victimisation, or just complicit by associating with JE and accepting his invitations?
Can you share the list?
 
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obsessivelocust

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Probably sooner if she starts blabbing. The fact she wouldn’t even testify in her own trial because “you’ve not proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt” should be used against her and incur more jail time.
Would break a pretty basic tenet of common law but OK?
 
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Dotty Merton

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Blue head has Elon musk vibes,
but how old would he have been during the height of all this, JEwas ruling his world mid 90s,

that painting looks nightmarish, those girls must have gone through some hell.
GM can rot for her crimes,
Painting was finished in 2020. Maria met Epstein et al 1996. Musk had just moved to Cali and was 25. I do wonder if his IT expertise back then might of brought him in touch with Ghislaine's tech sisters.

This talks more about the painting, but not enough.

 
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SnoopySnooper86

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Would break a pretty basic tenet of common law but OK?
Lulz - Nah but she clearly “pleaded the 5th” in order not to implicate herself any further.

I’m obviously not that stupid & I do understand that she had every right to refuse to do so but I’ve nothing but contempt for her & those involved so yeah.
 
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Dotty Merton

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Does the Cherub on the left resemble Elon Musk? Was he too young to be involved?

If she can paint the faces, why can't she say the names? Gagging clause in payout contract?
Well now you mention it, I wasnt sure if the blue face top left wasn't Musk too?

Bottom left - Andrew appears to have a rats body, Trump on Mushroom, Clinton on telly, who is the woman in the yellow school bus??!