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Currently been reading and listening to pregnancy and midwifery content and there's so much about how the baby bonds with the mother pre birth and knows her voice more than anyone else's because of how they hear it internally. Pregnant women start to sweat more and smell differently to help baby to recognise them and make it easier for feeding. So many mechanisms that attach a baby to their mother, there's no way to transfer that to a man at birth in the case of surrogacy, it's cruel to the baby. At that moment the Dad can be there and step in and care for the baby but those initial few weeks it would be horrendous for a baby to be taken from it's mother and given to a strange man who tries to feed them. Makes me feel sick
 
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Emma Hilton wrote an excellent post here: about the mother/bay bond and why surrogacy puts pregnancies at so much greater risk. The article she’s responding to in Wired is an horrific read. It’s about some rich silicon valley woman with massive MH issues who wreaked a campaign of vengeance against the woman she had paid to be a surrogate when the baby died. It’s horrible but really shows how hideous the surrogacy industry is.

It’s here:
 
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I don't have words to explain how dumb these people are.
Transkids should be able to shoplift so they feel loved. Ok.
What about the homeless person stealing a $2 coffee from the 7-11 so they can feel warm for a few minutes?
Ah tit, it won't archive. Sorry
It did, there's just an extraneous bit in the link. Here you go:

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...geous-ts-madison-transgender-shoplifting.html
 
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Emma Hilton wrote an excellent post here: about the mother/bay bond and why surrogacy puts pregnancies at so much greater risk. The article she’s responding to in Wired is an horrific read. It’s about some rich silicon valley woman with massive MH issues who wreaked a campaign of vengeance against the woman she had paid to be a surrogate when the baby died. It’s horrible but really shows how hideous the surrogacy industry is.

It’s here:
Anyone have an archived version of this wired article?
 
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ETA Dept of Health and Social Care have responded to the above petition.

Government responded:

DHSC’s longstanding position is that health information should be as clear as possible and language should be used that appropriately reflects sex as defined in the Equality Act 2010.
The NHS is for the people. It is founded on a common set of principles and values that bind together the communities and people it serves.
Communication and use of language are important when meeting the needs and preferences of patients – and speaking in plain English is an important part of being inclusive for all patients. The government and the NHS know the importance of using accurate and factual language in relation to biological sex as part of health communications. The Department of Health and Social Care’s longstanding position is that health information should be as clear as possible and language should be used that appropriately reflects sex as defined as a protected characteristic in the Equality Act 2010.
The NHS is there for everyone and while speaking in plain English ensures clarity for patients, there will be occasions when NHS service providers want to specifically acknowledge patients with differing characteristics, including the transgender community. This may mean that Trusts and providers decide to use additive language (such as “women and trans men”) to ensure health communications reach the largest audience. However, the government acknowledges that there have been instances when an attempt to be inclusive has resulted in muddled language, which moves away from the primary requirement to speak in plain accessible English. The government is committed to working with NHS England to ensure we continue to find the right balance.
The government therefore welcomes the clarity the Supreme Court judgement on the 16 April 2025 in the For Women Scotland Ltd vs The Scottish Ministers case brings. The government, along with the independent watchdog, the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), are working through the implications of the judgement to implement the changes required. In particular, the EHRC is working to develop a new statutory Code of Practice in light of the judgement.
More generally, the government is committed to prioritising women’s health as it builds an NHS fit for the future.
Putting women’s voices at the heart of healthcare design is non-negotiable. For too long, their needs have been overlooked. The 10 Year Health Plan prioritises local, co-produced services, ensuring care is not only safer and more personalised but shaped by women themselves.
The government has made good progress turning the commitments in the Women's Health Strategy into tangible action, such as providing emergency hormonal contraception free of charge at pharmacies on the NHS from October 2025; setting out how it will eliminate cervical cancer by 2040 through the new cervical cancer plan; committing £11 million to a major AI breast cancer screening trial; and taking urgent action to tackle gynaecology waiting lists through the Elective Reform Plan.
Department of Health and Social Care
 
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Emma Hilton wrote an excellent post here: about the mother/bay bond and why surrogacy puts pregnancies at so much greater risk. The article she’s responding to in Wired is an horrific read. It’s about some rich silicon valley woman with massive MH issues who wreaked a campaign of vengeance against the woman she had paid to be a surrogate when the baby died. It’s horrible but really shows how hideous the surrogacy industry is.

It’s here:
If she'd tried to adopt, she'd have been screened out for her apparent massive psychological issues. So she pretended she could pay, but actually she's paper rich, and has no actual money. She's a lunatic.
 
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ETA Dept of Health and Social Care have responded to the above petition.

Government responded:
Signed :love:
 
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Emma Hilton wrote an excellent post here: about the mother/bay bond and why surrogacy puts pregnancies at so much greater risk. The article she’s responding to in Wired is an horrific read. It’s about some rich silicon valley woman with massive MH issues who wreaked a campaign of vengeance against the woman she had paid to be a surrogate when the baby died. It’s horrible but really shows how hideous the surrogacy industry is.

It’s here:
Utterly unhinged. I'm forever baffled by the combination of high-conflict, bullying wife and enabling husband too. He acknowledges that he doesn't think any of this is the surrogate's fault but says that his wife taking legal action (i.e. her continual harassment of the surrogate) is "part of grieving process".

This is everything wrong with surrogacy on steroids. Human beings - women and infants - are not commodities to be bartered, bought and sold with contracts by inhumane crackpots who happen to have the means to exploit anyone for whatever thing they want. Babies aren't shoes or handbags, they are people, and you aren't guaranteed the one you want. The sense of entitlement is beyond my comprehension.

I'd bet my life savings Bi has a severe personality disorder, not bipolar, but as ever rich people are insulated against stigmatising diagnoses and allowed to wreak havoc. The fact she has no insight into her own behaviour - if she was poor she'd be in and out of psychiatric facilities.

The fact she calls the baby "defective" tells you all you need to know about this woman.
 
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ETA Dept of Health and Social Care have responded to the above petition.

Government responded:
"tangible action, such as providing emergency hormonal contraception free of charge at pharmacies on the NHS from October 2025"

Are pharmacists still allowed to refuse to give them due to their beliefs? Because that would render 'free of charge' pretty moot.
 
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Emma Hilton wrote an excellent post here: about the mother/bay bond and why surrogacy puts pregnancies at so much greater risk. The article she’s responding to in Wired is an horrific read. It’s about some rich silicon valley woman with massive MH issues who wreaked a campaign of vengeance against the woman she had paid to be a surrogate when the baby died. It’s horrible but really shows how hideous the surrogacy industry is.

It’s here:
A prize, entitled bleep. Most of that type are.
 
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I also think women who offer themselves up for surrogacy 'to help' (rather than purely for money) are mentally questionable. No has a 'right' to a child, and the people who crow on about that are more often than not crap parents. I think both surrogacy and IVF should be banned.

I know a couple who are looking at IVF. It took a long time to conceive their only child and it was a problematic, traumatising delivery. They've now found out the husband's sperm is defective, hence the IVF (they'll get funding). She has a growing number of health conditions, one of which is degenerative, impacts her daily and will leave her seriously disabled when the medical intervention stops working. They're nice people, but it's just utter madness to me.

I think in all areas of human life, there are too many people who think about 'can I' rather than 'should I'.
 
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Utterly unhinged. I'm forever baffled by the combination of high-conflict, bullying wife and enabling husband too. He acknowledges that he doesn't think any of this is the surrogate's fault but says that his wife taking legal action (i.e. her continual harassment of the surrogate) is "part of grieving process".

This is everything wrong with surrogacy on steroids. Human beings - women and infants - are not commodities to be bartered, bought and sold with contracts by inhumane crackpots who happen to have the means to exploit anyone for whatever thing they want. Babies aren't shoes or handbags, they are people, and you aren't guaranteed the one you want. The sense of entitlement is beyond my comprehension.

I'd bet my life savings Bi has a severe personality disorder, not bipolar, but as ever rich people are insulated against stigmatising diagnoses and allowed to wreak havoc. The fact she has no insight into her own behaviour - if she was poor she'd be in and out of psychiatric facilities.

The fact she calls the baby "defective" tells you all you need to know about this woman.
She's reminding me of Amber Heard and Britney Spears. And men like that frequently check out of actual parenting. The other child has no chance.
 
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