Gender Discussion #87

[Funny_bunny]

Not good

So stating a truthful scientific fact is criminal as it hurts the feelings of TIM? They really are the most vindictive, spiteful, nasty pieces of work. It’s infuriating that everyone is meant to go along with their delusions and their cult of gender ideology but there is absolutely zero acceptance that anyone can have a different opinion, without reacting in the most extreme way.

 

[Red80's]

Now the Fire Brigade Union are finding it all so complicated.

There was an invesigation last year by ITV into the fire service and it showed how rife misogyny is in a lot of fire stations. There was a lot of sexual harrasment cases of female staff, which were ignored or covered up. Anyone would think they have more important things to focus on.

 

[chizontiz]

I was football crazy when I was primary school age. Unfortunately, when I turned 11, I couldn’t play anymore because girls weren’t allowed to play with boys after 11, and girls football wasn’t the thing it is today. This is what being excluded because of your sex looks like!!!

 

[wilbz90]

Usually just lurk and like on here, but I got my smear invite letter today and booklet about the procedure. Offering in the letter the smear test to all women and “people with a cervix”

so women then..
I hope all this crap changes soon

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

Well you're a woman every day so that's a pointless statement you self important pillock

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

David Tennant also said this in that interview:

'These debates – and it’s not even a debate, it’s a small clutch of people shouting very loudly, amplified by certain elements of the press – are not reflective of what most people feel. Things become ludicrously disproportionate, and end up being unnecessarily cruel. That’s what the trans debate seems to have become. Most people don’t give a shit. I genuinely believe most people just want to let people be themselves.'

Again, he doesn't see the irony in the first sentence: yes, regarding trans ideology, it is a small clutch of people shouting very loudly and amplified by much of the press, And indeed, it is not reflective of what the majority of people think.

And he's wrong: most people do give a shit but have been too scared to vocalise their thoughts and feelings because of the 'no debate' attitude around trans issues prescribed by Stonewall.

And yes, most people are happy to let people be themselves so long as this doesn't impact their rights and they aren't forced to act as if they belief that the feelings of these people are more important than reality.

It's amazing how self-assured this man is with absolutely no insight into the irony and contradiction of what he says and believes. His inability to see inherent conflict between trans ideology and women's rights speaks volumes.

It's amazing how self-assured this man is

Not self-assured. Arrogant.

 

[Weebles Wobble]

I’ve mentioned it here previously, but a couple of years ago, I went into a public toilet at a local country park, and I hadn’t noticed that there was a notice in the door that it was closed due to maintenance work. Came out of the cubicle to see a workman and I honestly felt he was far more embarrassed and uncomfortable than I was.
I think this really highlights the difference between normal decent men, who do feel uncomfortable and wrong being in a female toilet and the TIM who feel entitled and proud of being in a women’s only space.

I've used the busy toilets in my local city and when there's a male cleaner on duty it's clearly signposted at the entrance (or at least it used to be!) If the man isn't cleaning a cubicle he's mopping the floor - head down, not looking, not engaging, just doing his job.

Recently I went to use a much smaller public toilet inside a building and there was already a male cleaner inside. As soon as he saw me he almost tripped over his mop in his haste to leave, and when I'd finished and left he was waiting down the corridor, away from the entrance.

None of these men give the impression they're enjoying being in our spaces and are trying not to make us feel uncomfortable.

 

[Brian Butterfield]

Some light relief.

 

[Bread]

I am SICK and tired of the word "woman" being erased and it is because people are scared of being 'transphobic'. Lineker knows full well what he's talking about but he is too frightened of being called 'transphobic' to admit it. The aggression from the trans camp and from their followers is truly venomous. I'd be frightened, to be honest - it's not a subject I find easy to discuss because of the vitriol which accompanies it. I actively avoid talking about it. Every time I make a complaint about "pregnant people" (for example) or ignore a request to specify my "preferred pronouns" I am imagining the disapproving headshakes at the other end of the email/letter/form. I am wondering if it is going to cost me a job interview, or lose me a friend, or cool a relationship, or affect the treatment I get from a medical professional. LinkedIn has become an absolute shitstorm. Nobody on there is interested in talking about work or professional situations, it's all about which side you're on. I am scared to "like" comments let alone post anything because it could have a catastrophic effect on my career.

I am also SICK of this being compared to the Holocaust. It is so fucking offensive and demeaning and belittling it makes me want to vomit. Go and tell someone who survived Belsen that you know how they feel because, you know, you're being told to use a unisex toilet.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Surely the whole thing about sexual attraction is it isn’t, and never has been “inclusive”. If that was the case, surely then everyone would be attracted to everyone else? No one has the right to lecture or dictate to anyone who they should be attracted to. If you’re heterosexual, you’re not going to be same sex attracted, and the opposite is true if you’re gay. Men and women are physically different, and mutilating yourself and taking inappropriate hormones isn’t going to magically make you look realistically different.
I suspect the reason they are so forceful and bullying about who’s attracted to them is that, in general, they look weird and creepy at best and fucking repulsive at worst. That’s all they have, bullying and shaming people into finding them attractive.

Exactly!

We are attracted to the people we are attracted to, and it doesn't matter what your sexuality is - as a heterosexual woman, I am attracted to men - but not all men. I can admire another woman's appearance and think `"My word, isn't she beautiful", but that doesn't mean I'd want to be in a sexual relationship with her - because she's the "wrong" sex for me to be physically attracted to.

Homosexuals are attracted to people of their own sex. But not ALL members of their own sex.

Heterosexuals are attracted to people of the opposite sex. But not ALL members of the opposite sex.

Bisexuals are attracted to people of both sexes - but not EVERY person they meet.

If TW really think they are women, and lesbians, why don't they just hook up with other TW who consider themselves lesbians? Similarly with TM. What's wrong with other TM as sexual partners?

It's because they know fine well that there is a difference between the sexes, and they don't want to be shagging another bloke/ another woman. But they expect a lesbian woman/ gay man to.

Hadaway and shyte!

 

[minimaz]

Re the Darlington nurse who was sexually abused, did anyone read the comments under the article?
One in particular referred to the gynaecological procedure that she needed. The person asked if her gynaecologist was a male, and then said they would assume it was (because she didn't say anything to the contrary in the article), and how was she fine with dealing with a male in that instance but not with having "Rose" in the operating theatre.
How fucking dare they!

We have no idea what sex the gyanecologist was but lets say he was male and every other person in the theatre was male too. It still wouldn't be a gotcha that she should have been alright with "Rose" because none of them have displayed fetishistic behaviour and tried to see this woman undressed for sexual or power reasons.

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

I’ve mentioned it here previously, but a couple of years ago, I went into a public toilet at a local country park, and I hadn’t noticed that there was a notice in the door that it was closed due to maintenance work. Came out of the cubicle to see a workman and I honestly felt he was far more embarrassed and uncomfortable than I was.
I think this really highlights the difference between normal decent men, who do feel uncomfortable and wrong being in a female toilet and the TIM who feel entitled and proud of being in a women’s only space.

Yeah I remember going into the loos at work and a plumber was in one of the cubicles doing some work. As soon as I came in he said loudly "Just so you know, I'm in here. Give me a second and I'll leave you alone" Most men don't want to be in women's spaces and those who are happy to shout that they should have access are not to be trusted.
It's like the "well there are male toilet attendants" gotcha they often use. Yeah, and in those toilets there's a sign up to say that there are males cleaning them. Giving women the option to not use them at that point in time. There are no signs up to say "Bert regularly faps himself daft while wearing a bra in these toilets" (and I've knocked myself I'll with that very sentence, sorry to anyone who had just settled down for a cup of tea and a little afternoon schnacky)

 

[ShopTilYouSlop]

Natalie Washington, a campaigner with Football v Transphobia, told PA earlier this month she was concerned trans women could now turn their backs on the game.

“The people I know that are talking about this are saying, ‘Well, that’s it for football for me’,” she said.

“Most people clearly don’t feel that they can go and play in the men’s game for reasons of safety, for reasons of comfort.

Oh do fuck off. Quite frankly I couldn't give a teeny tiny shit if some Man larping as a Woman never kicks a football again.

Why do they never give a shit about the actual girls and women who can't even choose to turn their backs on the game because their spots and trophies were taken by fucking dudes? Why are women and girls so invisible and inconsequential?

 

[Metropolis]

Union bros strike again . ‘Ellie’ Waple is running for the female disabled member’s seat on the Unison NEC.

Britain’s biggest union allows trans woman to run in female seat

archived 18 May 2025 06:16:29 UTC

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‘Ellie’

 

[FourSeasonSoupObsessive]

Maugham has hit a new low with this horrible lie.

It didn’t happen. He has made it the fuck up. The “she was challenged” is so deliberately vague, its almost Jack Monroe-esque in its plausible deniability. Maybe she was “challenged” for hogging the hairdryer, maybe she has an off peak membership and she went after dinner and someone said “er, you shouldn’t be here now”, or maybe someone said “oh my god, you’re married to that irritating twat Jo Maugham, arent you? Can you tell him from me he’s an arsehole please?”, but nobody, NOBODY, looked at an obviously female mother of three who has had a mastectomy and said “oi, you’re a bloke, get out of the womens changing room”. Nope.

What a terrible human he is. Suggesting that women who have had mastectomies are in any way masculine. If she colluded with him, they’re both appalling. If he did this to her and made it up of his own accord, then he’s as abusive to her as he is to his kids and to blameless foxes. Not content with whipping up vulnerable people into frenzies of anxiety, he’s now chucking middle aged cancer surviving women under the bus. Grifting cunt.

 

[IngressUK]

‘Trans toddlers’ allowed gender treatment on NHS

archived 15 May 2025 10:01:39 UTC

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"The limit was removed after the proposals were put out to consultation, with new guidance due to be published showing that children of any age are eligible.

However, a source close to the consultation process said NHS England had “caved to the pressure” of trans activists to remove the limits."

How on earth can anyone judge that a toddler is Trans?

They are too young to fully understand anything about the world around them, let alone the gender complexities. So why are they being offered gender treatment on the NHS.

This amounts to nothing more than legalised child abuse.

What next, unborn children being given gender therapy in case they are born gender confused.

Can this world get any more crazy??

 

[Madge2022]

This is absolutely appalling. No one with any sense of compassion would insist that her operation would go ahead with this member of staff on the ops rota.
Gynae procedures are stressful enough but this is putting the patient under considerably more stress and potentially trauma, due to her past abuse. It's the worse form of bullying. I'm so angry on her behalf.


Unfortunately female patients' concerns aren't always listened to. Hysteroscopies, where a small camera is passed through the cervix to observe the uterus, are usually done without any pain relief. Apparently it's because of some terrible research that claimed the cervix doesn't have any nerve endings!!!
I've had two and all I was offered was paracetamol - it's the most pain I've ever experienced. It's barbaric. Staff made me feel bad if you don't have it done there and then as 'it will be a long wait'. The third time I needed one I flat out refused unless I had it under GA or with an epidural. I had to wait 18 months for an appointment but in the end my consultant felt I no longer needed it to be done as my symptoms had cleared up.

I had that done recently, the consultant was excellent and spoke to me before the procedure about pain relief. They had gas and air that I could ask for at any time, and also said if that wasn't enough they could stop and I could be sedated. There were three people in the room, all female. One nurse spoke to me throughout and I was asked every few minutes whether I was okay and wanted pain relief. I thought that was standard practice, I'm sorry to hear it isn't.

These men who think putting on a dress makes them women really have no idea what women face every bloody day. I will never understand why women support them so much.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

How are you today @MaineCoonMama ? X

I'm so much better, thank you. Making sure I'm doing everything I'm meant to do medication and prevention wise.
I was also wearing appropriately sized shoes today and managed to get them on the correct feet, it's a win all 'round at Casa MCM. 🤍

 

[usefullyuseless]

Telling gay men they should date women is homophobic

 

[ContentCrunch]

Lovely family holiday at haven north wales… 6ft 6 4ft wide transvestite running the children’s activities just warms your heart name badge says Alice barratone and bollocks say Aled… also there’s a drag act on at 10 staff falling over themselves to urge you to put the kids to bed and distancing themselves from the acts content screaming it’s after the watershed and the kids are your responsibility