Gender Discussion #87

[Very traditional]

Isn't this old?

No idea, like I said, I haven’t listened to it, it just came up on my newsfeed - if it is old I don’t remember seeing it before so still good news to me

 

[GingerWhinger]

I think (hope!) @GingerWhinger was talking about Nemo, not JJ.

Absolutely! My post was about Nemo & not JJ.

 

[Notworthy]

Is there an update to this story? As Its dreadful that Helens words were so badly misrepresented!

It's at just after 8 minutes, Baroness Falkner is on from about 2 mins in.
Woman's Hour - Baroness Kishwer Falkner, Fifth anniversary of the death of George Floyd, Sarah Pochin MP - BBC Sounds

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

I think (hope!) @GingerWhinger was talking about Nemo, not JJ.

Phew!

Hope you are right.

Absolutely! My post was about Nemo & not JJ.

That's a great relief.

 

[ThisIsMyGuiltyPleasure]

Presented without comment

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ETA: Ok, just one little comment: the size of RMW’s feet and his wide-legged gait

Who is the woman in the middle?

 

[MaineCoonMama]

Really interesting discussion, could have listened for hours.

Thanks, I've subscribed to the channel so I can listen later on.

 

[IcanSpellBéchamel]

I recommend you look at Garham Linehann's substack. I particularly feel for poor little Danielle Muscato, whose transphobic mother constantly abuses him. You'll be horrified when you read what she does. She sounds a right biiiitch!.

I tried to post a link, but I couldn't do so without revealing my real life e-mail details, so I had to delete it. Sorry.

'Danielle' Muscato, grifter supreme

‘Danielle’ or ‘Ellie’ Muscato is a 37-year old (yes, really) ‘civil rights activist’ and in Muscato’s own words, a ‘trans woman who can’t transition’.

grahamlinehan.substack.com

The last part of this as well: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/nutmegs-week-6ea?utm_source=publication-search , though the link to info about Muscato's trial seems to be unavailable in the UK.

 

[Bread]

That's so refreshing! (Or did they not put that there?)

 

[Ketosibs]

Exactly!

She tried to tiptoe around them. She tried to appease. She inserted caveats into her essay about knowing and loving trans people. She tweeted “wear whatever you want” (in hindsight, knowing what we know now, I think she might want to retract that).

I think being a bit harsh is the only thing that keeps her sane some days. Although I do agree that some of her clapbacks can be a bit cringe. But haven’t we all got a bit silly on the internet after that ill-advised third glass of wine?

I think I find the cringe clapbacks provide a really unfortunate and useful thing for people to grab at and condemn her character for.

I think her wording is unnecessar and lowers her to the misogynistic TRA approach and that is frustrating to me.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

The Aldi version is a pretty decent alternative. I think it's called Bally Castle? We buy that one at Christmas instead of Bailey's now

Thank you - I'll give it a go.

 

[VC10]

How much to 'spend a penny' at these toilets?

I can bet that using these toilets mid afternoon, after spending 'many pennies', there will be pee over the toilet seats, and no loo roll.

Unisex toilets, from my experience, are usually the worst, as they can get in a right state.

(If you live in, or ever visit Southend-on-Sea, DO NOT use the unisex toilets at the Bus Station. They have to be truly the worst, and most disgusting unisex toilets I have ever had the misfortune of using.)

I hope these don't get like that !.

 

[ElmoCookie]

Some light relief for a Saturday

 

[Notworthy]

people with Swyers don’t have any gonads at all so can’t have kids though

Pretty sure none of the 3 children are biologically Britneys (yes there are 3, twins with 1st wife)

 

[JAR21]

Just knew I’d get caught short out shopping today. Fortunately, there was a John Lewis nearby.
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Bloody hell! That's an about turn for them then!

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

ETA Blimey, that was 2 years ago too.

I’d have sworn it was a few months ago!!

 

[Notworthy]

How many working class kids are trans? How many on council estates?

I've seen a few.

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

Weird

posted in off topic

on topic - very few trans women who were actually men in history it being not a lot of fun for women then

are there any?

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Immediate thoughts - he's poster boy for AGP, didn't watch the results show last night glad I didn't now.

Oh - that's disappointing.