Gender Discussion #82

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In honour of the ruling I think the next thread should be titled 'Clarity' 😂

I'm amazed so many adults need clarity on what a woman is. So many fool pandering hand maidens and misogynists.

Unrelated but I see Dame Katy has been suspended from Twitter/X. Anyone know why?
Or ‘Biology = woman’
 
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My Instagram is thankfully quite sane but that's probably because I unfollow people at the first hint of trans bull.
A writer I follow did share Zarah Sultana's post so I've cancelled my pre-order of her new book and the money will be going to For Women Scotland instead.
Can I ask who author, please? I have a lot of pre-orders pending and I don’t want to be handing money to deluded handmaidens!
 
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Just checked and this page on ACAS' website hadn't been archived yet so I went ahead and did it for posterity (amn't I lovely). TBH, I can't believe they didn't take it down straight after todays ruling. Worth remembering that an employment tribunal judge increased the pay out from Jaguar Land Rover by 20% based on them not having followed this ACAS code of practice

" Everyone at work should be able to use facilities they feel comfortable with. Making a transgender employee use facilities they're not comfortable with could be discrimination. "

People wonder how we got to this stage, its organisations like ACAS that pushed an ideological line
But it was OK to make women use facilities they weren't confortable with because there were men in them.
 
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Stella Creasy telling us we have to be nice. If the ruling had gone the other way no one would be telling the TRAs to be nice and think of the women whos sex class you've just obliterated
Those claiming 'victory' should clarify they respect the
existence of trans people- not as people who are 'mentally unwell', but as equals who have rights to express their identity.
Those expressing concern should clarify how the balance of rights this ruling shatters can be better upheld as a result.’


Wow she really comes across as a TRA. How does this ‘shatter’ the balance of rights? No empathy or understanding of what women have been subject to as a result of the overreach of those pushing gender ideology. And I don’t want to hear the phrase ‘tiny minority’ ever again. A ‘tiny minority’ should not be able to threaten the protections of another oppressed group.

I would have put this as a response on her X account, but of course she has turned of replies to that message.
 
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That's not her, it's a fan account. The last tweet I can see of hers from Google is from 8th April. When I click it, it says the account is suspended.
I just deleted my post because I realised that. I can only see DameKaty posting in 2023
 
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Been having a think and before the whole trans thing took off were non-feminine looking women really challenged about being in the bathrooms? And if the TRAs are to be believed about that happening now then whose fault is that? Maybe (if it happens at all) less feminine looking women wouldn’t be challenged about it if men hadn’t been barging in and claiming women’s spaces for themselves. Hmm.
 
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Thanks- nice to have a list of people whose art I need to boycott!
Unless of course they finally see sense... I will forgive them. I'm not like those stark raving mad extreme left wing weirdos whose sole purpose in life seems to be perpetually offended.
Except for Tennant.... and also Watson.... They've both gone too far. Couple of twatty bleeps.
 
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That's not her, it's a fan account. The last tweet I can see of hers from Google is from 8th April. When I click it, it says the account is suspended.
This is the message when someone deactivates their own account. Hopefully she is just having a break.

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'Rights hoarders' ? Oh do duck off. As if women have enjoyed an abundance of rights that no one else has. In England and Wales misogyny isn't a hate crime but transphobia is.
 
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Stella Creasy telling us we have to be nice. If the ruling had gone the other way no one would be telling the TRAs to be nice and think of the women whos sex class you've just obliterated.

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Piss off Stella. I don’t have to respect anyone’s delusion. I absolutely no do believe in gender identity.
Women who put the feelings of mixed up men over the safety and dignity of women piss me off so much.
Plus how bloody smug does she look in that photo?
 
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Been having a think and before the whole trans thing took off were non-feminine looking women really challenged about being in the bathrooms? And if the TRAs are to be believed about that happening now then whose fault is that? Maybe (if it happens at all) less feminine looking women wouldn’t be challenged about it if men hadn’t been barging in and claiming women’s spaces for themselves. Hmm.
Nope. We all could tell a butch woman from even an effeminate bloke. Nobody ever had to show their genitalia (except to the school nit nurse).

And we still can tell a butch woman from a man - even from an effeminate man. And we can certainly tell the coyest of blokes in a dress from a woman, no matter how hirsute or muscular she is.

And if a bloke does "pass" (HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 ) then none of us will know anyway.
 
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Yet somehow there was never a debate on ‘what is a man’ for trans ‘men’ 😢 very one sided
 
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Politicians like this are clearly too stupid to be in power but in a way they actually have more integrity than the likes of Gavin Newsome who's rowing back now that it's no longer the in thing. I'm really annoyed with all politicians who have supported the erasure of women's rights but I'm more annoyed with the ones who were clearly bandwagonning. Nadia and Zarah seem to actually believe it but the others obviously knew it was wrong and did it anyway. One kind are stupid and the other opportunistic and sly and I didn't know which is more dangerous to have in power.
Eh, I dunno. I think a vital qualification for politicians in a democracy is to be able to change policy when the facts change or when there's a big swing in the views of the electorate. Newsom, I don't much like him, but I can absolutely see how the zeitgeist of 2020 California would have yielded focus groups telling him that everyone loves trans people and wants them to have 'rights' (a word used disingenuously by TRAs as we know, they have rights as trans people, but they don't have rights to bust their way into female spaces), but now 5 years later when the consequences have become clearer, the facts and the zeitgeist have changed.

He's just doing what a democratic politican is meant to do imho. What's really dangerous to democracy is ideologues like Sultana and Whittome who cling to their dumb and harmful ideologies even when the world has moved on. Save that for China and Afghanistan and North Korea. Imho.
 
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Stella is so confident of her position she’s stopped people replying to her post. Love the ratio though.


Baroness Falkner of Margravine (head of EHRC) is currently being interviewed on the today programme. She’s pulling no punches. No men in women’s spaces. If TIMs don’t want to use men’s toilets, they need to advocate for their own spaces.
 
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