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Ladida90

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I'd never really paid much mind to all this gender nonsense, but it seems to have reached our office. These two new recruits wanted to come in and tell us all about their pronouns and what have you in front of the whole team. Can't say I'm surprised, considering the state of the world right now. Anyway, people listened for all of about 15 seconds and then went back to their usual business. I find it a bit rich if I'm honest, them expecting everyone to go all bonkers about their pronouns like it's the most important thing in the world. I mean, newsflash: we're not at a bloody therapist's office, we're at work to earn a living. What about a bit of common sense? And, just for the record these two are proper identikit types – purple hair, piercings, and all the tattoos – but, hey, at least they told us their pronouns, right? Still, I reckon it's ridiculous of them expecting everyone to fall over themselves to accommodate their feelings. Narcissists, every one of them, if you ask me.
 
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A nurse testified that she didn’t know whether DNA is altered by hair, clothes and makeup?😲

Seems like the whole of Fife NHS needs an urgent fitness to practice referral.
 
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Em_gardener

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If there was any doubt that Pride is all about the T, some Northern Ireland Pride events are banning any political party that supports the banning of PB's. This means the first openly gay Mayor of Belfast may not be welcome.

2 gay politicians not able to go to Pride because their parties aren't doing what the TRAs want them to. It's mad that gay people are being excluded from pride now.
 
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klarakluckbag

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See yellow highlighted 'explanation' 😵

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But if the female facilities admit "biological males", then they're not female facilities, are they? So if NHS employers are supposed to provide single-sex facilities to those who want and need them, they're clearly failing in this. And what about biological males who may not want to share their changing-rooms with mentally-ill TIF's, flaunting their double masectomy scars like some kind of sick badge of masculinity? If trans people want "privacy and dignity", that's all fine, but why does it have to be at the expense of everyone else's privacy and dignity? And why can't they be told to use the gender-neutral spaces? It's not our job to validate their delusions!
 
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Flibbertigibbet

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Oooh, look at this, we are upper class and Oxford educated now, according to these Lambada girls. Pass the plover eggs and champagne, Sebastian!
 
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MaineCoonMama

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My comment about JKR not being transphobic but pro-female on the Celeb Gossip thread made it onto the most reacted to list.
It was a quick, throwaway comment and I wasn't expecting much of a reaction unless it was an angry emoji.
I'm sure even this time last year the comment would've gone down differently.
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ShopTilYouSlop

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Obviously Bumba's job is ridiculous but I hope they don't simply fire her and make her the lone fall girl. She's a cog in the machine, not the Svengali mastermind pulling the strings. The whole ridiculous shitshow, as gender ideology itself, was enforced top down without consultation through intimidation, fear and silencing tactics.

Her role needs to be made redundant and the whole rotten system overhauled and policies clarified in line with the law.

Gotta bloody LOVE how Fife keeps whining that nobody else ever complained. Look what that bunch of rectums is doing to the first person who did!
 
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Mismatched Pegs

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Boy am I pissed that I've only ever displayed my GCSEs on my CV when I actually have an Oxford education. I shall be demanding a pay rise from every employer I've ever had because they didn't know what they had in me. I'm about to clean up <<rubs hands together and prepares to retire comfortably>>

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I don't go into Marksie's because I can't guarantee that some perv hasn't experienced ✨ gender euphoria ✨ in the bra fitting rooms.

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Oh the fucking irony.

Trot off you silly little girls. Instead of wasting all those eff words why not just wear a badge that says "do we shock you!?!" You middle class wankers. Fuck off.
 
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maytoseptember

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Boy am I pissed that I've only ever displayed my GCSEs on my CV when I actually have an Oxford education. I shall be demanding a pay rise from every employer I've ever had because they didn't know what they had in me. I'm about to clean up <<rubs hands together and prepares to retire comfortably>>

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I don't go into Marksie's because I can't guarantee that some perv hasn't experienced ✨ gender euphoria ✨ in the bra fitting rooms.

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Oh the fucking irony.

Trot off you silly little girls. Instead of wasting all those eff words why not just wear a badge that says "do we shock you!?!" You middle class wankers. Fuck off.
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The main thing I get from their little tirade is their hatred of the older woman. As sure as eggs is eggs, Western culture teaches young women to despise the older woman, almost like they won’t ever grow older and be despised themselves.
 
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Tofino

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NHS Fife don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to the investigation. It actually doesn’t matter whether it was DU or SP in the right or wrong at that point. Their role was to treat both employees fairly whilst they investigated without taking sides. Clear as day they took the side of one over the other and immediately presumed BU was right and SP was wrong. They hadn’t even spoke to SP. Just took the word of the man in a dress.
 
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Somreone's noted on X that ED testified that the code of conduct states "don't impose your views on others". And yet Uptonogood was imposing his TWAW nonsense on others - doesn't that breach the code of conduct?
 
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Weebles Wobble

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For those who did not manage to see him in action and have wondered how he occurred.

He was sitting directly facing the camera with the judge and panel on his left and the barristers on his right. Small enclosed desk with his paper work, water and microphone. I believe only a small section of the room was on camera as there were mentions of others in the 'public/press' area.

His five, or on second day four, support team sat behind him awkwardly in a row of black office chairs. I know that one was his father, one was his wife, I suspect one other was his brother. No idea about the other two. He was dressed in black on both days, badly fitting skirt and jacket with flat pumps and opaque tights. He had no fear of the camera when walking out of the room, although he did not stare directly at the camera it was interesting to note that he walked out alone ahead of his support team, and on one occasion picked up his handbag and left his wife to struggle with the two big puffer coats, scarves and hats that they had both worn to the hearing that morning.

His body language was ( this was when he was in full flow and taking at least 200 words to answer a question that simply required a yes or no answer, part of the reason why his testimony took so bloody long) in my opinion trying a bit too hard to appear feminine, very careful re the placement of his hands, they were frequently clasped together over his knee or on his desk, head tilts to one side sometimes and swinging his extra long legs, no doubt showing of his shapely legs ( that apparently some real men had tried to fondle) get me the sick bucket!

His elongated word salad answers were liberally peppered with the odd "wonderful", "thank you" "yes I can see that" specifically when he had found the correct part in his bundle of papers when being directed where to look. These were said in the style of a jaunty Miss Jean Brodie. This was completely at odds with his demeanour, when he switched into providing his never ending answers, when he became the gender warrior robot man trying to score points on every answer he gave for "his people"

My only regret is that I did not get to see the shift in body language over the last two days!
Thank you for this description.
I saw a brief clip of him online, where he was walking to his car. He took long, confident (man) strides and opened the car door without once looking around to see where his wife was.

I'm going to bed without Sandie's fundraiser reaching £25,000, but it's so close at £24,832. Meanwhile the man in woman-face hasn't achieved £2000 yet (£1,904*). Maybe 6 people will donate £1 each overnight to leave a comment.

Speaking of comments - which one of you left this? :giggle:

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* I checked again after posting and it's gone down by £1 to £1,903. 🤣
 
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Metropolis

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Last night, my oldest son was scrolling on his insta and suddenly jumped up, saying “FFS!”. I asked what was wrong and he said one of the most ‘macho’ guys from his sports team in uni had suddenly ‘come out’ as trans and announced he’d now got a boyfriend. I’m like, “so in his mind, it’s more acceptable to declare you’re ‘trans’ than come out as gay?’. My son said yes and how ludicrous it was as this bloke is all brawn and muscle and has never showed any inkling of going down the trans route the three years they socialised together. The whole ‘LGBTetc’ society at the uni was all about trans and the SU bar and activities were all ‘embrace trans’. You never saw anything just for LGB people. It’s sad he’s not able to just be a gay man and feel that he’d be accepted for his sexuality.
 
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TheMiceInTheShed

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I know we discuss surrogacy sometimes here. This came up on my Reddit feed. Gay couple hire woman in the Philippines to carry twins for them, donor eggs using both their sperm (I feel like this is common? They get one each?). One of the men has walked out a week before the babies are due and doesn’t want children anymore. The man he’s left is now facing issues with immigration / registering the births because one of the babies is not genetically his. So now there is a risk that not only will the babies be separated from the mother at birth but they may also end up separated from each other. I wonder if this man will even follow through with any of it if it gets too complicated.


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Every story we hear now about surrogacy just gets more and more heartbreaking as more and more "loopholes" and unforeseen tragedies start to play out.

These aren't pot plants - they are babies! Tiny, helpless, vulnerable human beings. Their mothers are also almost always incredibly vulnerable women who are acting as surrogates because they are either desperate for money (usually to provide a home for their own children) or have been bullied or coerced into it by men. It doesn't matter how many "safeguards" are supposedly built into the system - if there is enough money in it, someone will find a way to exploit it. And it always to the detriment of women and children.
 
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nothanksbabes

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I’m so glad I found this thread. As promised, an update from the office where we hired two purple haired they/thems last week. These people are absolutely mental! This morning, one of them asked our supervisor to be moved to a separate office, you know cause of her sensory overload, ADHD, and something else I've blanked on. The boss bless his cotton socks, said no as she needs supervision, someone's got to train her – thank heavens it wasn't me! I can sense more trouble on the horizon... this isn't going to end well. You just can't make this up! Being mentally ill doesn't automatically grant you any special privileges.
I have adhd and I wouldn't dare. So much of today's focus on mental health involves expecting everyone else to adjust, and "coping" in the moment, rather than working on building our own tolerance and adaptability so we can function in the world.

We've totally lost sight of the fact that what we want to feel better in the moment, and what we actually need for long-term improvement are often not the same thing.

Gender ideology is much the same. "I feel bad so I must have whatever I want in this moment to feel better and anyone who doesn't agree is a bigot".
 
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TheMiceInTheShed

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Very Interesting that this has been picked up by the media, I emailed the GMC a few weeks ago please see my question and their response below. To be fair I had not even thought about the issues around disciplinary sanctions – such as upheld suspensions and formal warnings – issued to a doctor before they transitioned.

not really a surprise that the GMC is another totally captured organisation....I need to go and have a read of the Gender Recognition Act!!

Hello

I wish to raise a query and possibly a concern about your policy of allowing members to reassign their gender and the future consequences of your organisation allowing such actions.

This question has been brought to mind most recently in the Peggie Vs Fife Health Board on going case.

For your information this case involves to my knowledge a person Mr Theodore Benedict Onni UPTON who identified as a man at the time of his first GMC registration - Registration number (7844321) and your records currently state "This person is not on the Medical Register and may not practise as a doctor in the UK.”

However this man is as, far as I am aware practising as a doctor in the Uk. This is because he has decided to change his ‘gender’ and is now registered under the name Elisabeth Ruth Annikki UPTON - Registration number 8038543.

Can you please explain how any member of the public would be able, upon searching for this doctor for any reason, be alerted to the fact that he had previously registered under a different name. As far as I can see your online system does not have any way of connecting these two records which relate to the same person.

I believe you as an organisation are the gatekeepers of who is and who is not legally able to practise as a doctor I would like to understand how you are fulfilling your obligation to provide relevant and up to date information to the general public.

Without the ability to be able to see all of your members registrations linked in an appropriate way, the general public have no ability to be able to question the qualifications of anyone presenting themselves as a doctor on your registration database.

I look forward to your response.

Their Response Received this afternoon

Thank you for your recent email.

I’m sure you will appreciate that we are not able to discuss the personal details of individual doctors with third parties without the consent of the doctor concerned, but I hope you will find the following clarifications helpful.

The primary purpose of the register is to give confidence that doctors practising medicine in the UK have the training, skills and experience needed to provide the standards of care that patients expect.

The Form and Content of the Registers Regulations 2015 require us to collect gender rather than sex information from doctors when they register with us. We offer a choice of two options for them – ‘man’ or ‘woman’. We publish this information and state that it will not necessarily equate to birth sex in every instance.

Our approach takes into account the fact that there are clear legal protections afforded to individuals, including doctors, relating to the use and disclosure of their personal information and their private lives. Most notably this includes human rights and equalities law, but data protection law and the Gender Recognition Act (GRA) are also relevant. We could not publish the biological sex of registrants in all cases, given the disclosure of someone’s previous identity when they have, or have applied for, a gender recognition certificate is an offence under the GRA.

There are a limited range of circumstances where we will issue a new GMC reference number to a registrant on an exceptional basis. This could include where they have changed their gender, but there are other scenarios, including where they are at risk of violence or harassment.

The new and old records will not be publicly linked to one another. We always retain an internal link between the two records, which is visible to the small number of people who require this information. This mitigates the risk that concerns about a doctor’s treatment when they practised in a previous name will not be picked up under the new record.

Finally, please note the guidance on our website to doctors on the use of their registered name and GMC number. In Good medical practice, which sets out the principles, values and standards of professional behaviour, paragraph 83 says that a doctor must ‘provide their registered name and GMC number’ to anyone who they encounter in their professional role who asks for it. This gives assurance that patients and employers can check a doctor’s qualifications and registration status and raise concerns if they need to.
The primary purpose of the register is to give confidence that doctors practising medicine in the UK have the training, skills and experience needed to provide the standards of care that patients expect.

I'm surprised that a doctor who sees no difference between the two sexes (something that people without even an iota of medical training have found a piece of cake since the dawn of the species) can be considered have the "training, skills and experience to provide the standards of care that patients expect" - especially when the doctor has stated that he would ignore requests for same-sex care from women (what with sex being a nebulous concept with no grounding in scientific reality) and, in fact, consider it a transphobic hate crime (and would possibly deny them treatment (IIRC)).

I think a "doctor" with this ethos should cause concerns to be raised left, right and centre - not only because of his own attitude and lack of biological awareness, but because his behaviour and self-obsession obviously impedes those of his colleagues who are really trying to do their jobs to the best of their ability (as we have seen with SP).
 
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