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Good God. WTH is this? :ROFLMAO:
Well, in fairness . . . they are seriously deluded, but apparently not grifters.

More to be pitied than to be censured.

(Except - how would people know where to send them stuff if they hadn't made their details available? :unsure: Surely to God they haven't put personal details openly online? They have opened themselves up to a lot of risk if they are really just a very vulnerable and troubled pair - which they seem to be )
 
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She bleeping loves it - and apparently is up for a fight. She has also infiltrated the PTA and the school governors. One person can turn an entire institution because no one wants to say it’s ridiculous and be called pointless names.
Isnt this the whole story of the ''Emperors New clothes''
When its up to a tiny child to point out the ridiculousness of adults beliefs!!! The Emperor was scammed by a pair of scoundrels taking money for special clothes that they tell him only extra intelligent people can see, and as he doesnt want to be seen as an idiot, he pretends he can see them too, so that when he is out parading around his city at a special event, all the adults praise him and his new outfit, and its left to a small child to ask why the Emperor isnt wearing any clothes!!
 
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Well, in fairness . . . they are seriously deluded, but apparently not grifters.

More to be pitied than to be censured.

(Except - how would people know where to send them stuff if they hadn't made their details available? :unsure: Surely to God they haven't put personal details openly online? They have opened themselves up to a lot of risk if they are really just a very vulnerable and troubled pair - which they seem to be )
Problem is, they are aiming their TikToks at young people. Not sure they are as harmless as they appear.
 
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I do feel a bit bad for laughing but it's just ridiculous.
I think it might be the Kiwi accents (I have a few Kiwi frunds friends) but they're just a pair of odd ducks.
Having said that the fact that the taller one refers to himself as a girl is a bit gross, especially on a kids' platform like TikTok.
 
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I think a lot of people are struggling to see my point here. I’m giving you examples of when sex is not defined by chromosomes alone to show the immense complexity of biological sexing and how unfortunately biology, especially genetics, is not as simple as you may have been led to believe in school.
I think perhaps you are confusing sex and gender here! Sex is entirely defined by chromosomes, so a mammal of all species are male if they are XY, or female if they are XX

Gender is a social construct, so yes you can say someone with a DSD was born with one set of chromosomes say XY, and because of those DSD at birth, they were brought up in the opposite gender, and didnt realise until they hit puberty that they werent XX.

What most on this thread are saying, is that gender and sex are not interchangable concepts. Your sex is a biological fact that cannot be changed, and shouldnt be changed.

You throw in things like 46xy, swyers syndrome, which was discussed on this thread a few threads ago, where someone with Swyers, was given a donated egg, supported in being pregnant, and then given a caesarian, before giving birth to a baby. Which is a lovely way to support the individual who wanted a child, but it isnt exactly a natural process. Its IVF, at its most extreme, and It must have been expensive to go through this medical intervention.
 
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Well that was an exciting 18 hours. Thread was speeding through as quickly as last week with the Boxing shenanigans.
 
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yes....a new home on Current affairs, realisation that people need someone to support their tattle application....and a lot of thread to catch up on!!

Well done those who discussed so effectively with our new visitors......I find it so hard to oppose/stand up for my opinion in real life, so its lovely to see such clear and sensible logic expressed!
 
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Isnt this the whole story of the ''Emperors New clothes''
When its up to a tiny child to point out the ridiculousness of adults beliefs!!! The Emperor was scammed by a pair of scoundrels taking money for special clothes that they tell him only extra intelligent people can see, and as he doesnt want to be seen as an idiot, he pretends he can see them too, so that when he is out parading around his city at a special event, all the adults praise him and his new outfit, and its left to a small child to ask why the Emperor isnt wearing any clothes!!
My daughter at the shopping center the other day meeting someone walking out of the ladies bathroom as we walked in "why is that boy wearing earrings?".
We can tell. We all can. No one passes, that's the biggest lie that's told in this whole bull ideology.
 
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I think the funniest thing is that if you close your eyes he sounds exactly like Korg from the Marvel films. “Piss off, ghost”.

 
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Well, in fairness . . . they are seriously deluded, but apparently not grifters.

More to be pitied than to be censured.

(Except - how would people know where to send them stuff if they hadn't made their details available? :unsure: Surely to God they haven't put personal details openly online? They have opened themselves up to a lot of risk if they are really just a very vulnerable and troubled pair - which they seem to be )
I’m not sure they’re not grifters. The entire point of doing TikTok lives is so that people can send you gifts (emojis pop up when this happens, I’m guessing it translates to cash?)

Just sounds a bit like they’re protesting too much when they keep saying that they’re only doing lives for friendship and not donations. Pull the other one.

Either way, two very sad and vulnerable looking people.
 
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Isnt this the whole story of the ''Emperors New clothes''
When its up to a tiny child to point out the ridiculousness of adults beliefs!!! The Emperor was scammed by a pair of scoundrels taking money for special clothes that they tell him only extra intelligent people can see, and as he doesnt want to be seen as an idiot, he pretends he can see them too, so that when he is out parading around his city at a special event, all the adults praise him and his new outfit, and its left to a small child to ask why the Emperor isnt wearing any clothes!!
I was that child! Primary school production of that very story. I was the smallest in class, skinny, short hair (often mistaken for a boy but that's another nightmare!). Had to sing solo "The King is in the altogther". As a shy child I think the teacher chose me to bring me out of my shell, despite me hiding behind another pupil to avoid being picked!
 
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Fixed it!

Should trans women men continue to be able to sit on women-only panels or be on women-only shortlists?

Yes. Trans women men are women, and because of that it makes sense that they should have the same opportunities as any other woman. Women-only panels and shortlists exist to try and redress the gender inequality that all women – trans women men included – face every day.

Panels and shortlists are stronger when they recognise and represent women from a wide range of backgrounds. This includes trans women men, who have very little visible representation in positions of power and who can bring different experiences and perspectives to the table.
 
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