Gender Discussion #64

[SkippyDoo]

I didn’t know that I was going to wind up so fond of the internet presence of that guy from The Thin Blue Line and Gimme Gimme Gimme but here we are! Life takes turns we don’t expect!

Love James’s posts and he is such a welcome famous gay male voice speaking sense on all this.
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Anything women only is classed as transphobic. Because everything is bloomin' transphobic!

I regret to inform the thread that I’m having my very transphobic period right now. It’s insisting on visiting a biological female again. Bigot.

 

[Metropolis]

Is anyone watching Eurovision? The winner, Nemo, is non-binary and goes by they/them pronouns according to Wikipedia, yet Graham Norton has misgendered him multiple times as ‘he’. How very rude of him, particularly as an ally .

 

[Django]

I haven't kept up with this thread so apologies if it's already been posted, but how do you comfort someone who is shaking and sobbing after being misgendered? Give them a hug and say...


They're their

 

[Scotch Mist]

Graham Norton has described JKR as 'problematic' and said he wouldn't have her on his chat show - he left Twitter/X following that statement. India Willyboy has been trying to cancel him on X for using 'he' for Nemo

It's delicious when these twats turn on each other

 

[petitspois]

The only stance with this is zero tolerance. It doesn't matter if the trans person is young, appears to be the salt of the earth, isn't harming anyone, has had their penis cut off or anything else pushing us women to be kind and tolerant. Men out!!!

 

[Metropolis]

Himdia can fuck off & get stuffed. Ludicrous cunt.

Thinking of getting this printed on a t-shirt

 

[petitspois]

”Sir John added: "We know that attitudes on trans have moved against making it easier for people.

"The critical feminists have the had the better of the argument. The question we have to ask is whether Isla Bryson is an Aids moment. The Aids scare moved public opinion for a while against same-sex relationships in the late 80s. The point is will it necessarily indicate the long-term trend, as Aids did not, or is it the case that eventually we will get more liberal?"”

I beg your fucking pardon, John?

Look, sonny, many women have been at this game for years. We understand the nuance, we’ve heard all the arguments, we’ve weighed the evidence. We’ve thought, written, spoken, debated and turned the concept of womens rights and gender identity upside down and inside out in the quest to understand how they intersect and how they can best be managed fairly in the public sphere.

You, on the other hand, blessed with your testicles of objectivity, have parachuted in with your frankly laughable ignorance of the topic, issuing forth banal and ignorant proclamations, during which you make not one reference to womens rights or safety, draw stupidly offensive and reductive parallels with a completely unrelated issue and pat yourself on the back for a job well done?

Nah, mate. Go away and try listening to some women. It may well be difficult, but I’m sure an intellectual giant such as yourself is up to it.

That said, it amuses me in a bleak sort of way when they think they’re sending their best, and the paucity of thought becomes clear. Better still when they’re accidentally monumentally offensive like dismissing the carnage that HIV/AIDS has wrought all over the world as “a scare” that “didn’t move public opinion”, because surely even the most ardent TRA will go “er, hang on a minute”?

I've come to the conclusion that any man wholeheartedly supporting this movement has either trans'd his child, is an AGP, is likely to make money out of it or is a raging pedalo who hopes this will open the door to all the 'love is love' bollocks we've started to see. There really is no other explanation.

 

[Mugglewump]

He has been asked numerous times if he has withdrawn the guidance he’s written for NASUWT and refused to answer

This is it: https://dera.ioe.ac.uk/id/eprint/33503/1/085066bb-c224-40de-b79e2a1358801ee9.pdf

Given he’s never publicly said he no longer stands by this, I can only conclude he does.

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Hayton is a liar. He’s a man who believes in ‘trutrans’ - he doesn’t believe in self ID and thinks because he’s made himself a eunuch, he deserves a pass to womenhood.

He does not. Women are not men without cocks.

I've spoken to women who have met him, apparently he behaves exactly like a man and dominates the conversation.
Colour me shocked.

 

[holly1727373!3]

The transgender person (mtf) i know has just posted pictures from his night out with a group of ladies. All the women in the pictures look lovely and are dressed really nice, then there’s this lad who looks like a blow up sex doll trying to be the main character in all the pictures. There’s one picture in particular where all the women are just smiling and he’s there in the middle grabbing his fake breasts. If that doesn’t say everything then i don’t know what does.

 

[mindlessness]

I never said the ref was a woman. I said when JKR flings insults (or what can be perceived as insults given cross dresser is quite an outdated term) she makes it easy to dismiss the myriad of correct things she is also saying as just the ramblings of a bigot.

So basically you are saying Rowling should 'be kind' and 'nice' even in the face of a torrent of abuse.

 

[SkippyDoo]

I have genuinely seen it argued by one TRA that needing a p*nis involved in s*x for it to be pleasurable is reasonable but preferring a p*nis not to be present is not. This was “biology” relating to physical pleasure apparently, in part because the p*nis didn’t need to be used in “lesbian” sex.

What it comes down to is that some males will say or do anything to get their way and to coerce women who categorically don’t want them, to sleep with them or to shame those who refuse.

I have also see gay men categorical that they would not date trans men, and some straight men who would never date trans women, but insisting that women accept trans women in their spaces, even down to prisons and refuges. So that’s: male org*sm, very important; women’s safety, not so much.

 

[petitspois]

Any excuse to post this - recent photo of Rory O'Neill

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He looks like someone decorated a scrotum.

 

[JAR21]

I've commented on 2 trans related stories in the Mail in the last 2 days, and my comments have been removed both times.

One comment said something along the lines of that they didn't need to use cis as a prefix in the article, as woman has worked perfectly well for 100s of years, and why should the majority bend for the minority.

The other comment was on not allowing trans on female only wards. I said it was a no brainer and Stonewall needed binning.

Both comments removed for what seems to be no good reason. Both polite comments.

 

[Metropolis]

The dystopian nightmare continues. How can this be happening?

Breastfeeding charity suspends trustees who want to ban trans women from its services

La Leche League complains to Charity Commission that demand breaks UK law on protecting single-sex spaces

www.telegraph.co.uk

Breastfeeding charity suspends trustees who want to ban trans women f…

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[usefullyuseless]

Dannii Minogue has come out as 'queer' despite only ever being in relationships with men and is with her current male partner for the last ten years.

 

[Zara zara]

Can we please stop being FishPhobic. Words are violence I'm crying and shaking in my safe space I'm supposed to be cooking a Sunday Roast

 

[Scotch Mist]

Anyone following Alison Bailey’s case, her appeal against Stonewall is due to be heard this week. She sets out the history in the tweet below:

I hope Alison wins. She's been through a lot. I would love to see her vindicated.

 

[blahblahboring]

I can’t believe how measured and polite her email is! She made it clear that she wanted a female and the salon allowed this clown to accept the appointment. He is a creep, I bet that he claimed it purely because the woman wanted a female and he wanted the validation OR he wanted to teach her a lesson.
Whoever stated upthread that most men don’t see women as people, just in servitude to men, you are 100% right and that is such a bleak realisation.


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Stating biological facts is not discrimination, he accepted taking that appointment despite knowing the customer had asked for a female therapist. The customer is the one who should be (and is) upset, not him.
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[Tobodee]

Hi all, I've commented on this thread before but haven't been on in a while and need to have a little rant. Please bear with as quite long.
So I've been part of a Facebook group but don't want to say what it is without giving it away, but its basically a Neurodivergant group for women. For women.
The past few months admins have warned people not to start posts saying "hi ladies" or "hi girls", incase it offended those who did not identify as that.
Anyway, I've bit my tongue but last week someone posted something along the lines of 'what do cis-women think about being called cis". What annoyed me was the amount of pandering from women on there saying how much that is what women are. "We are cis!" "I have a trans daughter! I am a cis-woman!" Etc etc.
Then a woman commented saying that if any cis-woman is offended by the term then they are bigots. No argument.
So I commented saying what a ridiculous statement. That I do not like the term cis and I do not want to be called a cis women but does that make me transphobic?
Then afterwards a very condescending comment from someone else asking me to ask myself why do I hate the term? Do I need to dig deeper into myself to find out who I am as a person? I clicked on their profile and it was a man. With long green hair. His profile had about 42 words how he identified and also something about how much they hate terfs!! And if you were a terf to fuck off so anyway I replied to comment that no, I do need to ask myself anything. I don't like the term cis and that's how simple it can be.

I was blocked from the group!!!!

I went to edit my post but think its too late now so can only quote.

Anyway, my post was quite light hearted but I was actually quite upset as I've been part of the group for 4 years and found it quite useful to be part and also enjoyed it!

I messged the admin afterwards and asked to confirm if the reason I had been banned was because I did not like the term cis.

They messaged back saying [attached]

What i don't understand is, they did not answer my question on what exactly did I say that was transphobic? I literally said I did not like the term cis!

And when they say people commented 'emotional' comments. I don't recall it. But also if they did, why is their opinion more valid than mine?? Why wouldn't they let me have a debate? I'm a decent person* and have never once tried to have an argument on said group

*cis-woman

 

[BunnyLebowsky]

Just seen

In the interest of being as real life as possible, I hope they also paid someone to kick him in the balls repeatedly for 8 hours, then added in a little something that would make his winkie sting every time he goes for a pee for a good fortnight after.

Otherwise this is like when kids play house.