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It’s bizarre but does it actually say this model identifies as a woman though? Maybe it’s just showing that anyone can wear their underwear. Although why a strapping man like this needs a crop top I don’t know, other than for fashion? If they are specifically selling this underwear for women, they’ve got a funny way of going about it. It’s obviously for publicity.
 
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Kelly Jay has launched her political party and the man who was charged with making violent threats towards her plead guilty on all four counts.
 
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I saw this on a church (albeit a modern type one) last night, my eyes rolled so far back in my head I saw my brain 🙄
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So many people who wave this flag think that it stands for 'inclusivity' not seeing that it really doesn't.

Surely a church is always open to everyone who wants to attend, just like the railway is open to anyone who wants to travel on it. All this does us play into the beliefs of TRAs who think that they're in danger of going anywhere unless a flag is being waved to tell them they're special and welcome. There probably are some who believe that unless they see a flag then they should be fearful of attending but that's because they are being told that by activists who are generating this fear.

While this is done in the name of progress its little different to going backwards in time with racial segregation signs to say who can go where.

Everyone is now represented on this flag apart from white straight people. A better choice of sign would just say 'all welcome'.
 
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I had a friend just like this when I was a teenager. Always talking himself up about how ‘honourable’ he was and how he wouldn’t let a man lay a finger on any of his female friends and family. If you told him something had happened to you in the past he’d get really angry and emotional about it and then you’d end up consoling him and dealing with his feelings. In my opinion that behaviour helps no one, it makes a situation all about you and your feelings, when the focus should be on supporting the victim. Anyway when that guy’s friend assaulted me at a party at his house, he refused to believe it had happened and said I must be misremembering or exaggerating for attention, because that’s one of his oldest mates and he would never do that to anyone :rolleyes: I know not all men are like that but very often it’s all just an act and they change their tune very quickly when it’s one of their male friends being accused.
 
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Oh dear! The merger of religion and sexual ideology. Insidious to say the least 😞
And yet the CofE wonders why church attendance is low. I say this as someone whose parents made me go as a kid and teen. I don't go now and haven't for about 13 years. It's unrecognisable now, from what it was even 10 years ago.

My mum still goes, what used to be a regular attendance of 100 people is easily 30 max now. Elders have passed on and youth aren't coming in. They struggle for vicars to cover all the churches, many churches share a vicar with like 4-8 other churches. No wonder TRAs are swooping in and we have trans vicars taking over. And a lot of the well meaning religious folk are lapping up the BeKind narrative, hence the alter cloth thing.
 
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Large numbers of credible accusations of grape while staying in NHS care. Why is male sexual violence never discussed openly as a global problem? It kills more than climate change and COVID. If these accusations were made against other societal groups then we'd have loads of articles about it but, because it's men, we just live with it.
 
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Everyone is now represented on this flag apart from white straight people. A better choice of sign would just say 'all welcome'.
Although ironically, most of the people represented by the trans chevron are straight and white 🤪
 
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Another one for the vault.

I just don't get the facial hair thing, most women are upset by their own facial & always remove it.

I bet he can’t believe his luck. Living his absolute fetish dream right now and not only being applauded for it, but paid for it!!
 
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According to Wikipedia: “Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.”

It’s a very useful term because it allows them to dismiss people as trolls for asking genuine polite questions to try and understand their reasoning, or for asking them to back up their assertions with evidence. (Of course the term only applies one way, because when they demand that we provide mountains of evidence for things like “male and female bodies are different” or “women are more at risk of violent attacks than men” and laughingly dismiss or ignore the evidence we provide, they congratulate each other for destroying the terfs with facts and logic)
Given sealions can be noisy I would have assumed sealioning was when a person talking calmly about their view and a sealioning person just kept screaming at them rather than listening.
 
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I'm still waiting for a woman, transman or non binary individual to appear in the Gillette-the best a man can get- adverts. Only fair as there have been obvious transwomen and feminine men in adverts for women's perfume and make up
 
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The Green Party discriminated against former deputy leader Dr Shahrar Ali because of his gender critical beliefs, a court has ruled.

Dr Ali launched legal action against the Green Party of England and Wales, the first of its kind, after being forced out of his role.

The Green Party admitted "procedural shortfalls" in dismissing Dr Ali.

The Mayor's and City County Court judgement awarded £9,100 in damages to Dr Ali.

All other allegations of discrimination and victimisation by the Green Party were dismissed.

The party removed Dr Ali as spokesman for policing and domestic safety in February 2022 for repeated breaches of the party's Spokespeople Code of Conduct.

In papers submitted to the court, lawyers acting for Dr Ali claim that officials in the Green Party "collaborated" to remove him from his post because of his beliefs about gender, which include the view that "biology is real and immutable".
 
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Amazing episode of the wider lens podcast today. These stories need to be heard by everyone, as a warning sign. David Tennant and his pals could do with listening to this.
 
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I'm still waiting for a woman, transman or non binary individual to appear in the Gillette-the best a man can get- adverts. Only fair as there have been obvious transwomen and feminine men in adverts for women's perfume and make up
That would be hilarious 🤣
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Emma Watson has had her hair cut. How long before she claims to be non binary ?

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I am always suspect of any business that displays the chevron rainbow flag. As I've said before it reminds me of a noisy minority forcing their way into something that's not just about them and taking it over, like a hairy man in a sports bra shoving his way into women's sports.

Speaking of which, one of the staffers at my gym has started wearing that flag badge. I don't think the gym itself is likely to be captured; it's an industrial unit place whose clientele (a mix of rugby lads and lasses, older meatheads, and ex large office drones like me trying not to die of a heart attack before age 50) are likely not to approve of gender ideology, whose proprietors are a 40 something les couple, and who have a specific women only room. That one of the staffers has a trans chevron flag is not something I'm concerned about. I can't see them compromising women's spaces in any way tbh.

The swimming pool I frequent in the other town is a different matter. They have those unisex changing villages and are part of a "social enterprise" that's well captured.

Still, better than London Fields Lido in Hackney. They have expressly non binary changing rooms and toilets. And it's Hackney after all.
 
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I'm still waiting for a woman, transman or non binary individual to appear in the Gillette-the best a man can get- adverts. Only fair as there have been obvious transwomen and feminine men in adverts for women's perfume and make up
This is interesting though because I reckon Gillette know that their target audience (MEN) would think that was stupid. So they won’t do it. It’s like the prostate cancer awareness posters that say ‘1 in 8 MEN will get prostate cancer’ rather than ‘1 in 8 people with a prostate’

It’s only women and girls who have to #bekind and use inclusive language or have blokes in dresses advertise clothes and make up to us
 
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Women don’t have the collective power to object effectively. Men do. People don’t care about women’s opinions. Men’s matter.
 
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