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Is there any response to this that isn't just "Fuuuuuuck offff. You tiresome twit"
Just shown it to my husband who said "Would it not just be quicker to say narcissist?"
What is a uniterian universallist?

I was listening to this song on spotify today. Saw the movie in cinema when I was younger. Doesn't 1998 seem more innocent.

"Did they send me daughters when I asked for sons?

"I'll make a man out of youuuuu"

"Be a man"


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Poor Mulan a woman who dresses up as a man to save her father's life.
 
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I love 80s heavy metal, and im currently making my way through album releases week by week in the 80s (to stop me listening to the same five songs on repeat and give me something to do when I'm bored sick working from home).

Anyway, of course it's well known that men in the 80s especially in glam and hair metal were gender non conforming, but I think it bears repeating...

The terminally online kids waving trans flags who think they invented gender non-conformity are 40 years too late.

These lot weren't pondering whether they were really women coz they had their girlfriend's skinny jeans on, were they?
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I love it when the handmaidens say that predators won’t go to the trouble of pretending they’re trans to get to women. Failing to realise all predators are lying to their victims in some way. Pretending to be a loving family member or friend, a professional, a stranger needing directions, a normal member of public just going about their day.
I wish I was in a place of naivety that didn’t understand the utter deprivation men are capable of or what they will do given less than half a chance. They will exploit any vulnerability whatsoever.

and if after something like this, they put in measures so that no lone member of staff was left with heavily sedated patients- that would be called safeguarding. In the same way that it is safeguarding to not allow males with male bodies into single sex spaces where women are particularly vulnerable.
Yet a man can sleep on a shared ward with unwell, possibly drugged, women if he says he’s a LAAAAAAADY and wears a nightie
 
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I love 80s heavy metal, and im currently making my way through album releases week by week in the 80s (to stop me listening to the same five songs on repeat and give me something to do when I'm bored sick working from home).

Anyway, of course it's well known that men in the 80s especially in glam and hair metal were gender non conforming, but I think it bears repeating...

The terminally online kids waving trans flags who think they invented gender non-conformity are 40 years too late.

These lot weren't pondering whether they were really women coz they had their girlfriend's skinny jeans on, were they? View attachment 2357132View attachment 2357133
This is in a book I read to my kids - I refuse to read this page! AFAIK he just liked dressing up and elaborate costumes?!
 

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Ah, but when he uses women’s spaces, he is Suzy, so nothing to see here ‘cause if you use a women’s name it makes you a fully fledged female innit:p
Eddie Izzard is being a wolf in sheep's clothing regarding his name. He's said that he doesn't mind if you call him 'Eddie' or Suzy', so long as you don't call him by a different wrong name. He's trying to pretend that he's being really reasonable and non-threatening by not making a fuss about being misgendered.

We don't care what you call yourself: just stay out of women's spaces.

As a tennis fan, I was very pleased that tennis had not capitulated up until now. 🙄
I'm a huge tennis fan as well. I don't know if you saw that recently Craig Tiley, the head of Tennis Australia, said that they were calling on the WTA and ITF to allow transgender women to complete in women's tennis in the name of inclusivity, diversity and, ironically, 'equality'.

It's telling that a man considers that allowing transwomen to compete against women is making the sport equal. I almost want a male player ranked in the 200s to transition and promptly win all four grand slams. I reckon that would focus minds pretty quickly, and all the female athletes who have been conspicuous with their silence up on the issue up until now, would be forced to speak out.
 
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I'm a huge tennis fan as well. I don't know if you saw that recently Craig Tiley, the head of Tennis Australia, said that they were calling on the WTA and ITF to allow transgender women to complete in women's tennis in the name of inclusivity, diversity and, ironically, 'equality'.

It's telling that a man considers that allowing transwomen to compete against women is making the sport equal. I almost want a male player ranked in the 200s to transition and promptly win all four grand slams. I reckon that would focus minds pretty quickly, and all the female athletes who have been conspicuous with their silence up on the issue up until now, would be forced to speak out.
Oh bugger, I didn’t know that about Tiley 🙁

With the likes of Navratilova’s excellent work and the Braasch/Williams game, I’d always assumed tennis to be quite ‘terfy’. I get the impression the Murrays are very much GC: Andy has always been a great advocate of women in tennis, and Judy has been publicly supportive of Sharron Davis.

And yes, for a while I too have kind of perversely hoped for a ‘Lia Thomas’-type scenario at Wimbledon as it would undoubtedly peak 98% of viewers. 😎

I was watching the Citi Open earlier and the commentators were discussing how Svitolina often trains with Monfils and how facing the power of a male player was excellent prep for her to bring to her matches. Refreshingly, in the discussion there was a completely unquestioned acceptance that men are easily able to play with far more power than women.
 
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From the article:
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Let’s hope it results in less children being put on a medical pathway, although the fact that NHS England felt that there’s not enough evidence to support the safety or clinical effectiveness of puberty suppressing hormones to make the treatment routinely available does make you wonder why they’re wanting to risk putting any child with ‘gender identity disorder’ on them at all.

Further up the article, it says that Susie Green had been able to refer children to the Tavistock even when their own GP had refused. That’s outrageous! How the hell is she qualified to make decisions like this, taking it out of GPs and parents' hands?
 
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As far as I am aware Tennis doesn't have a policy regarding biological Men playing in the Women's game, it just hasn't arisen yet.
I'd be shocked if Judy isn't a Terf and therefore Andy too. He has been a massive proponent of the Woman's game.
As for Svitlona training with Monfils, nearly all the Women have Male coaches for this exact reason so that isn't really unusual, he just happens to be her husband.
OT but for any Brit tennis fans on here Andrew Murray message board (activeboard.com) specifically to follow all the current Brit players including Juniors regardless of ranking
ETA Re Riley Gaines Will Thomas, the thing I found most shocking about the whole situation was that when they dead heated, Will got the only trophy available. It really highlighted how little Women's sport and therefore Female athletes are respected.
 
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I feel like the likes of Billy Jean King would be a big TERF after the battle she had to give women’s tennis better money and opportunities.
 
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As a tennis fan, I was very pleased that tennis had not capitulated up until now. 🙄
I hope the resignation of this woman of integrity draws attention to the unfairness of their policy.

Of course the tennis player "herself"is "very sad" but is "glad to be able to be able to kind of stand up for some of those people without a voice,' she said. 'Kids that have to choose between their authenticity and playing a game."

They always pull this particular mangy cat out of the very dirty bag - "We just want to play the game we love" and very carefully fail to point out that trans or not, they CAN play - against members of their own SEX. However although this would be fair, it isn't validating and it doesn't get them into the women's toilets and changing rooms.

I hope more people come out against this.
 
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‘You don’t want me to play’

Not against women, no.

Serena admitted Andy Murray would beat her 6-0 6-0. He was in the top ten at the time. I think most of the top 100 would give her a good game. It’s not comparable.
 
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Eddie Izzard is being a wolf in sheep's clothing regarding his name. He's said that he doesn't mind if you call him 'Eddie' or Suzy', so long as you don't call him by a different wrong name. He's trying to pretend that he's being really reasonable and non-threatening by not making a fuss about being misgendered.

We don't care what you call yourself: just stay out of women's spaces.



I'm a huge tennis fan as well. I don't know if you saw that recently Craig Tiley, the head of Tennis Australia, said that they were calling on the WTA and ITF to allow transgender women to complete in women's tennis in the name of inclusivity, diversity and, ironically, 'equality'.

It's telling that a man considers that allowing transwomen to compete against women is making the sport equal. I almost want a male player ranked in the 200s to transition and promptly win all four grand slams. I reckon that would focus minds pretty quickly, and all the female athletes who have been conspicuous with their silence up on the issue up until now, would be forced to speak out.
I almost want a male player ranked in the 200s to transition and promptly win all four grand slams.

This sort of thing?

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...ng-female-contest-smashing-record.htmlclaimed to be trans solely to show the unfairness of the inclusion of men in women's competitions. He took the record from the pervious winner (a transwoman - who would have guessed?) wha was very upset and in tears because apparently Avi "isn't really trans and is just pretending to be a woman". (There is video of this - I will try to find it)

But this is what we need - a man to do this in every sport and humiliate these "women". After all, if a man says he's a woman, who are we to disbelieve him - isn't that what they always say?

I would also like to see "gender fluid" male police officers who are prepared to be in "girl mode" (thanks for that one, Eddie) for the duration of an intimate body search on a TW (male) prisoner when required.

Not the video I wanted, but here is the defeated TW (around 3.07) and admits he has an unfair advantage - but hey, he's niece!


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Good to see Denise Welch up & about 😃😃
Has she had some work done? She's looking better than the last time she was on Loose Women.
 
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Apologies if already posted ...

I guess Brighton identifies as the North, or at very least was mistakenly assigned south coast at foundation.

On election I suspect Eddie will oversea a number of large reconstruction projects to reconstruct the vegan tofu houses to steak pie and chips shops, and introduce legislation to declare it a hate crime if you say Brighton, East Sussex rather than Brighton, North Yorkshire.

Brighton will pass for the North you transtownphobic TERGs*




*Transtown exclusionary radical geographers.
 
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