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Hi everyone, wondering if anyone has the perfect answer for me? I think I've touched on before but I work for a very wokey wokey company that's a big stonewall recognised employer🙄

I was speaking to the diversity and inclusion officer for our branch today and he was saying about a recent call when the woman running it was heavy on the pronoun talk (introducing herself as she/her and talking about their importance etc). It's made me think that being asked pronouns or being told to put them in my email signature isn't far off.

Does anyone have a fail-safe eloquent response they use if asked directly?

I feel for lots of people they see it as an inoffensive question, after all I'm a woman who does 'use' she/her, and a year or two ago this question wouldn't have bothered me but now it symbolises everything I don't believe in and feels the thin end of the wedge for erasing women's rights

I don't want to get dragged into a disciplinary 😂 and want an answer that's clear it's because of feminism I feel so strongly and not because I'm a 'PC gone mad' guy, as we do have lots of colleagues who are male, white, 50+ and stuck in the 90s, and I don't want to be lumped in with them 😂

Help? 😂
I've heard some women say that they don't want to draw attention to the fact they are women in their signatures to prevent being subjected to either overt or subconscious sexism.
 
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If they’re trying to be inclusive they also need to be inclusive of people who feel uncomfortable including their pronouns for whatever reason. It could be that you’re in the middle of an existential identity crisis and questioning your pronouns (massive eye roll) and therefore don’t feel happy putting them in your email!
 
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I just saw on another thread that Dylan Mulvaney - TIM - has produced a Tik Tok in partnership with Tampax.

He thinks that Super/Regular refers to size of vagina (what a male assumption) not menstrual flow. Wonder if he has ever heard of Toxic Shock Syndrome?

I am fuming at this, what a dangerous idiot 🤬
He was even calling saying the size of your ‘barbie pouch’ in one of his videos. Absolutely vile and disgusting. Nice one Tampax! I won’t be purchasing anymore.

I feel like I’m living in a crazy world. Recently went to a festival and accidentally ‘misgendered’ a man with a moustache who claimed he went by she/they… I was like ‘oh cool’ and quickly ended the conversation, as to not be confrontational. I’m not participating in your fantasy, sir. Jesus Christ.
 
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Considering what’s gone on on Twitter these last couple of days, I should note that I once saw Shappi Khorsandi do stand up on a boat on the Thames (she wasn’t very good) and she misgendered an actual woman audience member (called her “sir”) and got extremely flustered when her mistake was pointed out 😂

The woman didn’t literally cease to exist, so that was nice.
 
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Meet “Rose” Whitby. Matthew Whitby seems to have been Rose for a few months. Nothing new to him, as he was formerly known as Mathue Babic until he changed his name when released from prison the first time for rape.

His rapist brother also changed his name once released from Young Offenders for the same crime. I wonder if this supports that the government is NOT doing enough, and that what @smellyfootballboots suggested, that anyone committed of a crime when they could genuinely be a danger to people don’t get the right to change their name.


WARNING: Graphic descriptions in that article. Throw the whole disgusting family away.
 
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That whole family sound lower than animals. How is it legal for rapists and child abusers to hide their identity by changing their names? Surely the legal system can understand why they want to hide their identity?
 
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This happened at work yesterday:
I've been working on a document and did the final edits. Submitted edits to the rest of the team (all male).
Nothing was said.
Another (male) colleague who I copied in on regarding the edits (they're outside of the main team) agrees with my edits and... the main team all agree with him. Yep, they're my edits, my rationale, my understanding as I've been majorly involved. He hasn't.
And then... one of the team made unsolicited changes outside of the brand identity which looked all kinds of wrong. Then I was tasked with removing them and putting it righ. Um, no - make him do it.

Sexism thrives in that office and they know it. Imagine having that power?
 
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Hi everyone, wondering if anyone has the perfect answer for me? I think I've touched on before but I work for a very wokey wokey company that's a big stonewall recognised employer🙄

I was speaking to the diversity and inclusion officer for our branch today and he was saying about a recent call when the woman running it was heavy on the pronoun talk (introducing herself as she/her and talking about their importance etc). It's made me think that being asked pronouns or being told to put them in my email signature isn't far off.

Does anyone have a fail-safe eloquent response they use if asked directly?

I feel for lots of people they see it as an inoffensive question, after all I'm a woman who does 'use' she/her, and a year or two ago this question wouldn't have bothered me but now it symbolises everything I don't believe in and feels the thin end of the wedge for erasing women's rights

I don't want to get dragged into a disciplinary 😂 and want an answer that's clear it's because of feminism I feel so strongly and not because I'm a 'PC gone mad' guy, as we do have lots of colleagues who are male, white, 50+ and stuck in the 90s, and I don't want to be lumped in with them 😂

Help? 😂
Check out the Sex Matters website, I believe they have some guidance on how to respond to the pronoun thing. Thankfully I've not been forced to yet, though everone around me hs voluntarily done soso

And regarding the Tampax, out of a world of 7 billion (?) people are you telling me they couldn't find one of the 3.5bn FEMALES to advertise a FEMALE menstral product? 🙄🙄🙄🧐🤔🤬
 
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Check out the Sex Matters website, I believe they have some guidance on how to respond to the pronoun thing. Thankfully I've not been forced to yet, though everone around me hs voluntarily done soso

And regarding the Tampax, out of a world of 7 billion (?) people are you telling me they couldn't find one of the 3.5bn FEMALES to advertise a FEMALE menstral product? 🙄🙄🙄🧐🤔🤬
I think it's this one, I've booked marked it for ready access!

 
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Who gives a flying duck about the mental health of an elderly woman (a roommate), who may have personal care needs, or possibly some form of dementia, and is from the generation where she may have only ever lived with her husband :mad:

 
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Who gives a flying duck about the mental health of an elderly woman (a roommate), who may have personal care needs, or possibly some form of dementia, and is from the generation where she may have only ever lived with her husband :mad:

All this bleeping stupidity makes me very angry.
As a side result of this sort of thing, staff could leave the profession thinking ' its just not worth getting into trouble at work for ' to the detriment of patients who need the care and assistance?
 
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I'd refuse to support an ideology that thinks chemically castrating boys who are not old enough to make that life changing decision is a good idea.

I don't give a duck about your pronouns. When I talk about women, I'm talking about adult human females. We are not 'cis' because we're not a subcategory within our own sex.

Men have no idea of what being a woman is, because they didn't grow up in a female body. Any idea they do have is based on sexist stereotype which have no place in modern society.

Saying trans women are women undermines what a woman is. We are more than ideas in a mans head. It's actually offensive to suggest that's all it takes to being a woman. Not to mention misogynistic.

Sex is the important characteristic, gender doesn't matter at all. It's a type of fashion and nothing more.
 
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Hi everyone, wondering if anyone has the perfect answer for me? I think I've touched on before but I work for a very wokey wokey company that's a big stonewall recognised employer🙄

I was speaking to the diversity and inclusion officer for our branch today and he was saying about a recent call when the woman running it was heavy on the pronoun talk (introducing herself as she/her and talking about their importance etc). It's made me think that being asked pronouns or being told to put them in my email signature isn't far off.

Does anyone have a fail-safe eloquent response they use if asked directly?

I feel for lots of people they see it as an inoffensive question, after all I'm a woman who does 'use' she/her, and a year or two ago this question wouldn't have bothered me but now it symbolises everything I don't believe in and feels the thin end of the wedge for erasing women's rights

I don't want to get dragged into a disciplinary 😂 and want an answer that's clear it's because of feminism I feel so strongly and not because I'm a 'PC gone mad' guy, as we do have lots of colleagues who are male, white, 50+ and stuck in the 90s, and I don't want to be lumped in with them 😂

Help? 😂
Sex matters are also doing a campaign where you can nominate your edi department and they'll send them info on gender critical rights at work.
 
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I'd refuse to support an ideology that thinks chemically castrating boys who are not old enough to make that life changing decision is a good idea.

I don't give a duck about your pronouns. When I talk about women, I'm talking about adult human females. We are not 'cis' because we're not a subcategory within our own sex.

Men have no idea of what being a woman is, because they didn't grow up in a female body. Any idea they do have is based on sexist stereotype which have no place in modern society.

Saying trans women are women undermines what a woman is. We are more than ideas in a mans head. It's actually offensive to suggest that's all it takes to being a woman. Not to mention misogynistic.

Sex is the important characteristic, gender doesn't matter at all. It's a type of fashion and nothing more.
Yes, your biological/ Dna sex is immutable. Also, there are physical differences with various internal organs that are sexed, biologically .
All that is fact, and cannot be changed.

Gender is a mindset. A mental position. That's all.

You can live as the opposite sex, of course, and someone may crave that, and yearn for it. You can have surgery to look , as well- but you cannot change your biological sex.
 
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I just saw on another thread that Dylan Mulvaney - TIM - has produced a Tik Tok in partnership with Tampax.

He thinks that Super/Regular refers to size of vagina (what a male assumption) not menstrual flow. Wonder if he has ever heard of Toxic Shock Syndrome?

I am fuming at this, what a dangerous idiot 🤬
I'm glad I buy Aldi own brand tampons, in that case. These larpers make me so bleeping angry.
 
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I'm glad I buy Aldi own brand tampons, in that case. These larpers make me so bleeping angry.
Don't buy anything that has an association with any of this utter bleeping crap. If multinationals don't give a toss about your custom , while falling over themselves to virtue-signal-align with all this tit, buy the products from some other manufacturer.
And drop them a line telling them why you won't be purchasing any more of their products.
 
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WPATH can get in the bin. Look at who's on their current board. Every single one of them is making bank off encouraging more transitioning among young people.

Prof Walter Pierre Bouman is a medical doctor, trans health specialist, sexologist, psychiatrist, psychotherapist, and academic, specialising in gender and sexuality at the Nottingham Centre for Transgender Health.

Dr. Tangpricha is a board certified endocrinologist at Emory Clinic and Emory Midtown and Program Director of the Emory Endocrinology Fellowship Program. His interests include vitamin D, osteoporosis, endocrine disorders in cystic fibrosis and transgender medicine.

Marci Lee Bowers is an American gynecologist and surgeon who specializes in gender confirmation surgeries. Bowers is viewed as an innovator in gender confirmation/affirmation surgery, and is the first transgender woman to perform such surgeries.

Dr. Radix is an infectious disease/HIV specialist at the Callen-Lorde Community Health Center in NYC and an Adjunct Assistant Professor in the Department of Epidemiology. Dr. Radix is a recognized expert in transgender medicine and has contributed to multiple national and international guidelines for the care of transgender and gender diverse people.

Dr. Loren Schechter, MD is one of the country’s foremost experts on transgender surgery. He is the Medical Director of the Gender Affirmation Surgery Program at Rush University Medical Center in Chicago. Dr. Schechter has been performing gender-affirming surgeries for more than 20 years.
 
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Clementine Ford is on instagram declaring herself a staunch feminist then stating her page is a TERF free zone and that she will not tolerate transphobia. Why are these women expending so much energy on men's rights?
 
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Re WPATH - please read this from reduxx

“The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), the international association which sets guidelines for the medical ‘transitioning’ of children, has been collaborating with participants of a fetish forum that hosts and produces fictional child pornography and extreme sadomasochistic content.”
 
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