Gender Discussion #108

[StringyMango]

Me too. Second time I've spoiled my ballot. The Greens were round my neighbourhood like flies on tit before May 7th despite me telling them i was not interested.
Labour came round once, just as i was getting in from work. Interesting that i got the older obviously lesbian to ring my doorbell. ( For those that don't know I'm an old lezzer too)
Told her i'd voted labour all my life and i will not vote for a party that doesn't know what a woman is.
In other, slightly more cheerful news, i bought a copy of Trans, brought it home, my wife snaffled it and is about half way through.
We've had words about me being too hardline.
This will be interesting...

 

[DoraMaar]

The Countess team has produced a new resource for parents and guardians who are concerned about ideological influence and teaching in Irish schools

Despite the fact that Irish parents exercise a fundamental constitutional role as the primary educators of their children, particularly in the areas of moral and religious formation, many parents now perceive a growing disconnect between this role and the content delivered through compulsory elements of the school curriculum, especially Social, Personal and Health Education (SPHE), Relationship and Sexuality Education (RSE), and Bí Cineálta.

New Guide For Parents And Guardians from The Countess - The Countess

 

[People-huv-tae-know]

Why are cases like this not appealed against

The punishment is non existent for the severity of the crime.

I do feel some of these Judges need a strong whack to the head, as their sense of justice is way off to what the public expects.

I want to bring back the death penalty for this kind of filth. It's the only way to guarantee these depraved oxygen thieves won't re-offend.

 

[Weebles Wobble]

There are some Lib Dems who agree with the Guidance.

I can't link to the letter as it's a google doc, so here's a screenshot from today around 4.30pm. (Names are updated regularly)

Spoiler: Rest of the signatures, spoilered for length

 

[Dinate]

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/guidance/technical-guidance-schools-consultation

The EHRC has published draft schools guidance for consultation. Chapter 5 mentions CR for trans identifying pupils. It states that trans identifying children should not use the CR of their chosen sex. It suggests that they be given a separate space to change eg a teachers CR.

It's been pointed out on another forum that I'm on that this is neither practical or necessarily safe. Apparently the head of Ofsted said in a Q&A on Mumsnet last week that all children must use the CR of their biological sex for safeguarding and safety. There are women from my WRN who are going to respond to this consultation and that point in particular.

The positive thing is that they've moved away completely from boys being allowed to use girls CR. Once again, a prayer of thanks to Lord Hodge and his colleagues.

 

[Vanelope]

In that letter, the Lib Dem’s were committed to the Equality act when they thought it meant that men’s rights were more equal than women’s rights. They don’t like it now the Supreme Court has agreed that women’s rights are in fact protected when it comes to single sex spaces.

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

Maybe I’m delusional, but it really does seem that the tide is turning and this shitshow is starting to collapse in on itself.

Dozens of children put at risk after gender care failures at GP clinic, inquiry finds

A safety inquiry into the WellBN clinic in Brighton found 78 children were potentially harmed after being given gender medication without proper checks.

www.bbc.co.uk

I was always quietly optimistic that, as the boundaries got pushed a little bit further and a little bit further and a little bit further, eventually we would reach the tipping point where ‘be kind’ and hysterical accusations of bigotry no longer acted as a magical forcefield against facts and evidence of harm.

I’m just waiting for the tsunami of court cases, as the final nail in the coffin

 

[minimaz]

Joylon Maughams response to that clinic in Brighton being found to have put children at risk is to commit the GLP to fund 10 children to continue to get the drugs that the clinic is admonished for having given them.

If the NHS won’t protect trans children, we will | Good Law Project

Trans children are being denied gender affirming healthcare, so we’re stepping in to support them.

goodlawproject.org

 

[Not Now Bernard]

I’m starting to think that Joylon identifies as a psychopath

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

Joylon Maughams response to that clinic in Brighton being found to have put children at risk is to commit the GLP to fund 10 children to continue to get the drugs that the clinic is admonished for having given them.

If the NHS won’t protect trans children, we will | Good Law Project

Trans children are being denied gender affirming healthcare, so we’re stepping in to support them.

goodlawproject.org

WTF?! The inquiry found that the clinic put children at a high risk of harm ‘because clinicians provided "specialist diagnosis, care and treatment that they were neither qualified, nor commissioned to deliver"’, and JM has announced his intention to fund continuation of that harm (under the misnomer of ‘protection’).

How can that be legal?

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

WTF?! The inquiry found that the clinic put children at a high risk of harm ‘because clinicians provided "specialist diagnosis, care and treatment that they were neither qualified, nor commissioned to deliver"’, and JM has announced his intention to fund continuation of that harm (under the misnomer of ‘protection’).

How can that be legal?

He identifies as a medic?

Really he should be locked up.

 

[Ilovemusic]

He identifies as a medic?

Really he should be locked up.

Him and Webberley in the same cell. They can debate their crazy ideas to each other until their brains explode. Job done.

 

[Dinate]

Maybe I’m delusional, but it really does seem that the tide is turning and this shitshow is starting to collapse in on itself.

Dozens of children put at risk after gender care failures at GP clinic, inquiry finds

A safety inquiry into the WellBN clinic in Brighton found 78 children were potentially harmed after being given gender medication without proper checks.

www.bbc.co.uk

I was always quietly optimistic that, as the boundaries got pushed a little bit further and a little bit further and a little bit further, eventually we would reach the tipping point where ‘be kind’ and hysterical accusations of bigotry no longer acted as a magical forcefield against facts and evidence of harm.

I’m just waiting for the tsunami of court cases, as the final nail in the coffin

WTF?! The inquiry found that the clinic put children at a high risk of harm ‘because clinicians provided "specialist diagnosis, care and treatment that they were neither qualified, nor commissioned to deliver"’, and JM has announced his intention to fund continuation of that harm (under the misnomer of ‘protection’).

How can that be legal?

The problem is that there is currently no ban on private gender clinics prescribing hormones to

WTF?! The inquiry found that the clinic put children at a high risk of harm ‘because clinicians provided "specialist diagnosis, care and treatment that they were neither qualified, nor commissioned to deliver"’, and JM has announced his intention to fund continuation of that harm (under the misnomer of ‘protection’).

How can that be legal?

The problem is that private gender clinics are still allowed to prescribe cross-sex hormones to over 16s. On trans reddit there are loads of 16+ youngsters taking hormones from these private clinics. Sadly, most of them are girls taking testosterone. There are clinics doing mastectomies and hysterectomies as well. Of course, the NHS still does these as well although I don't know if they have a minimum age and there are waiting lists.

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

Joylon Maughams response to that clinic in Brighton being found to have put children at risk is to commit the GLP to fund 10 children to continue to get the drugs that the clinic is admonished for having given them.

If the NHS won’t protect trans children, we will | Good Law Project

Trans children are being denied gender affirming healthcare, so we’re stepping in to support them.

goodlawproject.org

"We're going to fund..."
Well technically, "you're going to fund, because the money certainly isn't coming out of my pocket"
Wonder if two of the ten kids being funded will be Jo's?

 

[Vanelope]

We are watching the zealots become ever more determined and deranged because they are too committed, they have no other life to return to if they are actually wrong, this ends up with Jonestown and Waco and every other destructive cult that find nowhere to go. If they weren’t so narcissistic they would be a danger to themselves but instead they are a danger to vulnerable children.

I have nothing but contempt for them.

 

[Funny_bunny]

This is an interesting watch on YouTube. A psychiatrist discussing the whole trans issue, how the majority are AGPs, the fetish aspect, transition regret and why affirmation is totally wrong.

 

[minimaz]

Lib Dems ‘lack compassion’ for women, says Ed Davey’s brother

archived 11 Jun 2026 12:54:00 UTC

archive.ph

"Writing on LinkedIn at the weekend, Charles said that Dr Hollowood was “right to be concerned about what is behind the Lib Dem letter to Bridget Phillipson”.
“The key is in the statement that Lib Dems do not believe women’s rights and trans rights are in conflict,” he said.
“The Lib Dems trans activists, who seem to carry immense power and influence in the party, certainly insist that there is no conflict, because they believe that transgender women are women.
“To be fair to my brother, and his leadership team, they must be worried. If the leadership were to support women’s rights to single-sex spaces, they could well face defections to the Greens.”
He went on: “Opposition to single sex spaces demonstrates a sad lack of insight, understanding or compassion for girls and women in a society tainted by violence against women and girls. About a third of women have suffered from sexual abuse, as children or adults, almost always by a person born male.
“Single-sex spaces are spaces in which women can feel safe. It does not matter if the transgender woman is the most wholesome person in the world. That misses the point.”
Charles also criticised the party for preventing Liberal Voice for Women from having a presence at party conferences until they were threatened with legal action.
He wrote: “Thank goodness for Kemi Badenoch, the only party leader prepared both to stand up against racism and to stand up for the rights of women,” he said. “Is it any wonder that she is the most popular party leader?”"

 

[Peachsquish]

We are watching the zealots become ever more determined and deranged because they are too committed, they have no other life to return to if they are actually wrong, this ends up with Jonestown and Waco and every other destructive cult that find nowhere to go. If they weren’t so narcissistic they would be a danger to themselves but instead they are a danger to vulnerable children.

I have nothing but contempt for them.

The sad react is for everything but the last sentence btw

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

Did anybody happen to catch a programme on BBC1 last night about missing people? I was only partly watching but it was about kids/young people going missing from care.

One of them was an 18 yo TiF and it was really interesting how the police dealt with it. The girls mother referred to "her" and made it clear this was a young female. When the police were putting out an alert they referred to "male 5'3"" and didn't mention trans status (very bleeping dangerous in my opinion) Keep talking about "him"

The search goes on for days (made me wonder if a young adult male was missing from care whether they'd spend that much time on them and behave as if they were very vulnerable) and at one point they have someone who they suspect of doing her harm - one of the officers says something like "I think this is sex thing" from that point it is pretty much accepted that she's female and they start calling her "she"

It was really interesting because you could just tell from the very start they recognised that being female put her at greater risk despite constantly calling her "he" If anyone else saw it or watches on catch-up, if love to hear your thoughts.

ETA some spaces between paragraphs to make it a bit more readable

 

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

Did anybody happen to catch a programme on BBC1 last night about missing people? I was only partly watching but it was about kids/young people going missing from care.

One of them was an 18 yo TiF and it was really interesting how the police dealt with it. The girls mother referred to "her" and made it clear this was a young female. When the police were putting out an alert they referred to "male 5'3"" and didn't mention trans status (very bleeping dangerous in my opinion) Keep talking about "him"

The search goes on for days (made me wonder if a young adult male was missing from care whether they'd spend that much time on them and behave as if they were very vulnerable) and at one point they have someone who they suspect of doing her harm - one of the officers says something like "I think this is sex thing" from that point it is pretty much accepted that she's female and they start calling her "she"

It was really interesting because you could just tell from the very start they recognised that being female put her at greater risk despite constantly calling her "he" If anyone else saw it or watches on catch-up, if love to hear your thoughts.

ETA some spaces between paragraphs to make it a bit more readable

I didn't see that, but it's very interesting that the police ran with 'him' independently of what the missing girl's family said. It's very worrying. I mean, I know that more often than not there will be good reason for the police to take a different tack to that of other parties close to a victim, but this just goes to show how captured our public services actually are.