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One trans person can cause an entire organisation to cower through fear of being cancelled or called a bigot. There are always handmaidens who run around being kind and threatening others for wrongthink. All it takes is someone brave enough to say that they don’t agree and other people find their voice and also stand up and be brave. No one believes trans women are women, they just think they have to because the loudest voices say they do.
 
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This exactly. To be honest, I don’t feel I owe total strangers anything other than basic politeness. I’m not a fawner, I don’t go around complimenting strangers. The absolute last thing I’m going to do is tell some random AGP that he’s the most stunning and brave and precious little delicate flower, especially as they give me the creeps.
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Trans Joy. Yes, it seems to consist of aggressive AGPs displaying their fetish and getting irate with anyone who doesn’t fawn over them and depressed TIM who always seem thoroughly miserable. Frankly, not people I want to be around. One lot creep me out, the other lot seem desperately sad and depressed.

As for the church thing, I admit I’m a complete atheist but what I really don’t get is this. In fact I discussed it with a devout Christian retired GP ( he actually brought the subject up). He says that God created man and woman, and trans is going against the word of God. Surely then, if you believe the bible then you believe the absolute wisdom of God, and to accept that some people are born in the wrong body, is to accept God got things wrong? Why is the church going along with this when it seems to go against their beliefs? I don’t want to offend any Christians here, I just genuinely don’t see gender ideology and Christianity as compatible.
I completely agree with you ~ I said much the same when we were talking about that insane signage in the Sunderland church that was offering 'toilet chaperones' rather than obeying the law on single-sex provision:

I’m an atheist, so I find religious beliefs difficult to fathom at the best of times, but the above is especially baffling to me. Those who accept trans ideology but also believe in God are essentially saying “God got it wrong, but I know better”. 🧐
 
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I’ve not been on this thread in ages, various reasons but just wanted to share. I had asked advice on worries about this toxic ideology infesting my child’s school and received solidarity from you guys. I’ve now noticed that since the obviously trans student teacher (bad wig, giant hands, a foot taller than the females) has left, the sign on the teacher’s toilet saying “toilet for the gender you feel most comfortable with” (wtf does that even mean) has disappeared. My child has a new class teacher and they are now doing loads of Harry Potter stuff, including a whole school show themed on it 😄 Maybe he’s a TERF, I bloody hope so. But it made me wonder, are they only “allies” to people’s faces? Most of the people involved in the performative nonsense don’t really believe it, they’re just frightened of the repercussions of not going along with it.
Some are frightened and some are sadly corrupt to the core. Those who have transed their children will never allow themselves to believe the truth of how they were actively complicit in destroying their children's lives. Instead they have to make everyone else believe lies.
 
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I’ve not been on this thread in ages, various reasons but just wanted to share. I had asked advice on worries about this toxic ideology infesting my child’s school and received solidarity from you guys. I’ve now noticed that since the obviously trans student teacher (bad wig, giant hands, a foot taller than the females) has left, the sign on the teacher’s toilet saying “toilet for the gender you feel most comfortable with” (wtf does that even mean) has disappeared. My child has a new class teacher and they are now doing loads of Harry Potter stuff, including a whole school show themed on it 😄 Maybe he’s a TERF, I bloody hope so. But it made me wonder, are they only “allies” to people’s faces? Most of the people involved in the performative nonsense don’t really believe it, they’re just frightened of the repercussions of not going along with it.
Delighted to hear this. And what a great new class teacher for your child. 😁

Yes, imo, a mix of being frightened of repercussions - and unfortunately we have seen many cases where people were punished for daring to raise objections to having to share single sex spaces. Then there are those who don't particularly care, and this applies to men especially - because they don't see it as anything they need to concern themselves with. What harm if John wants to wear a dress and call himself Jane, haha, isn't it great this inclusive world we live in and I can take his oops her locker in the changing room because obviously he oops she will of course be using the women's facilities now.
And then there's the handmaidens of course.
 
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This minority "scared for their lives "group have choked and frightened people from voicing their real views. That's a lot of power these delicate, threatened for their safety, groups hold.
 
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I've seen all the stuff about women with breast cancer complaining about Lush's advert regarding trans men's scars and I'm genuinely appalled. When you think this world can't get any worse, it does.

I really feel as a women we've lost. There's too many 'be kind' hand maidens. Normal women are now outnumbered.

But there's one thing I'm sure of. These transwomen can access every women's space they want, they can access every women's health screening they want, they can be included in every women's maternity group they want, but they'll NEVER be women. And everyone knows they're not women. Even that "Dr" Helen person knows they're not women.

And that's what kill them!!! They think this validation will quieten that wee voice in their head that tells them the truth. But it won't. Cos deep down they know they're living a lie.
 
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One trans person can cause an entire organisation to cower through fear of being cancelled or called a bigot. There are always handmaidens who run around being kind and threatening others for wrongthink. All it takes is someone brave enough to say that they don’t agree and other people find their voice and also stand up and be brave. No one believes trans women are women, they just think they have to because the loudest voices say they do.
I quite like the saying Trans Women Are Trans = twit , on occasions apt for the person attempting to deny their biological reality
 
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From that article...
Working at the University of Texas in early 2025, she watched as an overhaul of the university’s leadership dismantled protections for trans staff.

It included banning pronoun displays on name badges and forcing her to use the male toilets, where she says she suffered verbal and physical abuse.


Tut tut, why weren't the men told to 'be kind'... the million dollar question. Not.
 
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Performative nonsense! Dude could have gone to Canada where it surely would have been much easier to get a work permit.
Performative nonsense you say? Par for the course with this lot.

Was watching Come Dine with Me at lunchtime with Mr P (don't judge we are old and can't be arsed to have an actual conversation during our lunch breaks) I was catching up here and didn't have my specs on but he goes "I don't think Julia is a lady". Cue big booming voice coming from the telly. Later in the programme one of the contestants was saying "I knew Julia was transsexual from the start" Julia most offended by lying contestant who couldn't possibly have known and was just making things up. Absolutely bleeping delusional.
 
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So the new Health Sec performatively said that he no longer believes that TWAW but the reality is that he still doesn't give a damn about girls and women's rights.

I seriously hate these cowardly people. The open misogyny of these politicians just takes my breath away.
 
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This minority "scared for their lives "group have choked and frightened people from voicing their real views. That's a lot of power these delicate, threatened for their safety, groups hold.
They’re the biggest gaslighters I’ve ever known. They hide behind being a woman and insist anyone who isn’t with them or doesn’t agree is a transphobe and bigot. So they thrive off of fear. The same way people can be racist towards white people because they know if they retaliate then it’s racism (or think it is). Gaslighting 101. I done with it
 
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