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I do suspect that there’s a very strong push to try and normalise anything and everything. Things which would once have been seen as shameful are now being pushed in our faces and we’re meant to celebrate it? I’ve said it before, but women with boundaries are ridiculed as prudes, but don’t anyone dare kink shame. I honestly think there should be shame. I don’t want to witness anyone’s sexual fetishes.
Can you imagine the reaction in the past to this walking mass of red flags? This isn’t stunning. It’s not brave. It’s a p with sick fantasies indulging them in the open. I hate to think what’s going on in his mind, the combination of child like dressing and sexual euphoria.
There is such a constant push that they are in the right and we are in the wrong, I do wonder what percentage of males do have these grim tendencies, and the patriarchy are gradually eroding our resistance until anything goes.

We are rapidly heading towards a society where we will be ruled by what, essentially, girds these men's loins. The Green Party is a prime example. And too many politicians in the mainstream parties would never dress up as Shirley Temple themselves - but they don't seem to see anything wrong with men doing it.
We will all suffer, and to misquote the song - if we tolerate this, then our children will be next.
 
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It might be tricky for the Greens to disguise their trans agenda if they field a similar large amounts of trans candidates in the GE. If it wasn’t so disturbing it would be funny to see the inevitable uncomfortableness between them and the conservative Muslim candidates.



They're not even trying to hide it though. Mothin Ali and other Muslim leaders in the Greens are holding their noses at the moment because this is the only way they'll get more representatives elected. Mothin Ali by the way has a wife who wears a full black niqab in public. He's more calculated than the former Your Party independent Muslim MPs who left because of Zarah's mad trans stand. Corbyn has always managed to successfully keep both the LBGT and Muslim group together. Zarah's just mental in this respect. Ali is prepared to play the long game.

BTW, the comments are hilarious - suggestions that the dancing stripper is Polanski's pick for Home Secretary as an example 😂
 
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Womens pain is far too often ignored or dismissed by healthcare professionals.

I have had three hysteroscopic procedures, two of which I was not offered any pain relief at all, apparently as I've given birth, I would be 'fine', despite the fact I had an epidural during my labour so actually slept through most of my labour!. One procedure was so painful that the nurse had to stop and she got me booked in to have it done under GA. When I had the last one done with an epidural, I could still feel enough discomfort that the anaesthetist made them pause to check I was properly sedated. I was but apparently I have a 'very sensitive' cervix 😞
 
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bleeping weasels. What a mealy-mouthed rescindment. ‘Highly polarising’ my a; they haven’t got the integrity to admit that they allowed some virtue-signalling intern to make a fool of them.

And what ‘support’ can any person need just because a person singing in a choir for charity holds a belief they don’t think they should be allowed to hold?

If it was me, I certainly wouldn’t be attending - I don’t think Scope should be allowed to half-arsedly reverse-ferret away from this shameful ‘ducking stool’ mentality.
"Gender-critical views are highly polarising and we are sensitive to the fact that for some of our valued members, supporters and colleagues, gender-critical beliefs may be deeply upsetting and alienating."

Galling how these organisations are blind to their own hypocrisy.
 
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TRA views are highly polarising, but I’m guessing they’re not “highly sensitive” to the fact that they could be “deeply unsettling and alienating” to women, who are 50% of the population. But I also guess that women aren’t “valued” as members, supporters and colleagues.
 
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TRA views are highly polarising, but I’m guessing they’re not “highly sensitive” to the fact that they could be “deeply unsettling and alienating” to women, who are 50% of the population. But I also guess that women aren’t “valued” as members, supporters and colleagues.
This is what is so infuriatingly idiotic: it’s ’highly polarising’ to believe that a man cannot be a woman, and vice versa, but absolutely reasonable to believe that the likes of Barbie Kardashian and Lily Tino are women. Really? 🙄
 
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I honestly don’t understand how ANYONE can honestly, deep down believe a man can ever be a woman.
It makes as much sense as saying my cat is a dog,
 
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Well, well, look what a little bit of negative publicity does. A u-turn from Scope. Love that they're providing 'extra support' for yhe poor delicate souls affected by a different and factual opinion....Thoughts and prayers etc ..:D
Jeez wouldn't that statement turn your stomach. Oh please do care of the stunning and brave and most marginalised, we beg you. [throws up, repeatedly]
 
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Jeez wouldn't that statement turn your stomach. Oh please do care of the stunning and brave and most marginalised, we beg you. [throws up, repeatedly]
Oh do duck off, I find gender identity ideology deeply unsettling, misogynistic and upsetting. But nobody ever thinks of the feelings of women. It’s all about creepy weird men and pandering to them above anyone else.
 
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Despite Scope reinstating the choir, there have been repercussions as a result of their earlier actions :(
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Since Janet posted that, she put an an appeal for singers on X and thankfully now thinks she has enough for her choir. However, she has been getting hassled via her choir’s email because of Scope.
 
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It’s definitely mainly porn for the older blokes. For the younger ones it’s a pipeline which winds it way through things like My Little Pony, Furries, Anime and gaming as well as the porn. Out of my eldest sons group of online/real life friends 7 of them are various iterations of trans and the rest of them are either gay or ‘bi’ (despite never actually having been with anyone of either sex). He’s the only one who is straight and a lot of the time they rib him over it, because it’s ’boring’. He’s known most of these young blokes since they were about 10 or so and he feels like this whole agenda has cannibalised their personalities, they all just talk like parodies now, full of buzzwords and phrases like ‘body is tea’ and all they ever talk about is HRT, polyamory, dressing up as anime characters or French maids and trans issues. It’s a cult.
There were a couple of other lads that were straight but they both got expelled from the group for misgendering or having the wrong political opinions. Personally I think he should tell them all to eff off but he’s very loyal and I think he holds out hope that some of them might come to their senses eventually.
I’m honestly agree with you with regards to anime. Having worked in education, as well as my husband, many of the young people who end up identifying as trans (which I noticed) all loved anime. They would watch it on break, talk about it, draw it and then once they felt safe enough, dress like it. Many of them would go to comic cons or anime cons where it would be more socially acceptable as they could cosplay as their favourite character with zero judgement.

My husband seemed to have a high percentage of his class every year identify as trans by the end of the three years. This is all in the UK. Oddly enough he hasn’t spoke about any in the almost four years we have been living in the US and he teaches at a college of art so you would think he would have some; but not one at all.

He teaches game design and computer animation and even he believes it is down to anime. He wants to write a research paper on it but he knows that would be the end of his career (so he’s going to do it when he’s quit haha).
 
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They're not even trying to hide it though. Mothin Ali and other Muslim leaders in the Greens are holding their noses at the moment because this is the only way they'll get more representatives elected. Mothin Ali by the way has a wife who wears a full black niqab in public. He's more calculated than the former Your Party independent Muslim MPs who left because of Zarah's mad trans stand. Corbyn has always managed to successfully keep both the LBGT and Muslim group together. Zarah's just mental in this respect. Ali is prepared to play the long game.

BTW, the comments are hilarious - suggestions that the dancing stripper is Polanski's pick for Home Secretary as an example 😂
Christ!

The state of British politics! 🤢

I despair.
 
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It’s all porn, it’s the proliferation of unchecked, ever more extreme, internet porn. When it was restricted to the mags and even videos, someone had to edit and approve it and publish it so there were guidelines and limits. Now the internet has meant there is so much of all kinds of content that generates demand for more and more extreme behaviour. Kinks and fetishes are normalised, violence and strangling is normalised. It has destroyed these men’s relationship to normal women.
 
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Despite Scope reinstating the choir, there have been repercussions as a result of their earlier actions :(
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Since Janet posted that, she put an an appeal for singers on X and thankfully now thinks she has enough for her choir. However, she has been getting hassled via her choir’s email because of Scope.
I think it's very significant that the majority of the choir who apparently haven't expressed any gender critical views (it seems that it was Janet's GC views that Scope took exception to) now feel uncomfortable performing. Scope has alienated and upset even the non-GC members of the choir. Those members are now SO AFRAID of what TRAs might do during/ before/ after their performance, that they're reluctant to sing!

Well done, tr4nnies of the world - you are intimidating and terrifying your own supporters.
 
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It’s all porn, it’s the proliferation of unchecked, ever more extreme, internet porn. When it was restricted to the mags and even videos, someone had to edit and approve it and publish it so there were guidelines and limits. Now the internet has meant there is so much of all kinds of content that generates demand for more and more extreme behaviour. Kinks and fetishes are normalised, violence and strangling is normalised. It has destroyed these men’s relationship to normal women.
Hard agree.

Porn isn't "harmless fun". It sexualises children, treats (mainly) women as objects to be ejaculated into, and twists mens' natural sexual instinct s.

It objectifies our girls, and corrupts our boys, and ruins the chances of a loving, equal - straight or gay - relationship for both sexes. In short - it's destroying us all.
 
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I think it's very significant that the majority of the choir who apparently haven't expressed any gender critical views (it seems that it was Janet's GC views that Scope took exception to) now feel uncomfortable performing. Scope has alienated and upset even the non-GC members of the choir. Those members are now SO AFRAID of what TRAs might do during/ before/ after their performance, that they're reluctant to sing!

Well done, tr4nnies of the world - you are intimidating and terrifying your own supporters.
Thing is though, it could well be that a significant number of the choir are gender critical but have kept their views to themselves. Despite the push by TRA, I don’t think that being gender critical is at all unusual. In fact IRL, I can only think of one person who isn’t GC. Because of the bullying nature of TRA though, we have to be careful who we reveal it too, and I think there is a significant percentage of silent gender critical out there.
However, Scope are once again showing that they are bullies who cannot bear women having an opinion. I’d say they’ve scored an own goal with this behaviour.
 
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I wonder if they will be excused the boring brown uniform and be able to wear their favourite bum skimming frock and stilettos? Whilst pretending to be mummy and shoving their hairy moobs into some poor child's face :sick:
That will be the end of this prestigious institution. Reputation in the gutter. ALL BECAUSE TWAW. RIP Norland nannies ⚰
If you were wealthy enough to employ a Norland Nanny then I would imagine thst you would have full control over what books the Nanny reads to your children. I would be strictly vetting them so that no books like 'Grandads Pride' made the list and I'd be insisting on no teaching around sexuality or pronouns etc.

Glad to hear that SCOPE have climbed down over the choir, they must've been threatened with some sort of legal action about that or loads of people decided they would be withdrawing their support for the charity. It begs the question about who reported the choir woman in the first place. You'd have to actively search out the information by stalking someone's social media to find out that they have gender realist views. So who reported her? I bet they've got a TRA amongst their staff who stirred this up. The charity sector is full of them.
 
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I think it's very significant that the majority of the choir who apparently haven't expressed any gender critical views (it seems that it was Janet's GC views that Scope took exception to) now feel uncomfortable performing. Scope has alienated and upset even the non-GC members of the choir. Those members are now SO AFRAID of what TRAs might do during/ before/ after their performance, that they're reluctant to sing!

Well done, tr4nnies of the world - you are intimidating and terrifying your own supporters.
It looks like the Scope website has a live chat facility - I think we should all have a live chat and let them know that their bullying behaviour has ensured that they'll never receive a penny of support from us.
 
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Janet Murray is quite a prominent GC journalist, Scope wouldn't have had to look very far to find her views.
 
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