Gender Discussion #105

[Tangerine Dream]

I am so getting massive ick from the photos of Kristi Noem's husband.

These blokes don't even try to be like women, it's all about the fetish.

They are always the creepiest, ugliest people and I can pretend to think otherwise.

 

[emmer_moans]

Just saw this on Facebook.

We'll see if this means TERFs stop being interviewed by police... I won't hold my breath though.

BBC News - Government to overhaul non-crime hate incident rules

Government to overhaul non-crime hate incident rules after review

The Home Office says updated guidance will end the policing of "everyday arguments" online.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Mismatched Pegs]

Which is why I don't shop in their stores.
Also, just walking past sets of my asthma!

Well, well, well, looking at that link My Genderation (that name makes me want to rip my eyes out) is another not for profit company being funded by the sale of magical trans adjacent products (£6 for a bath bomb that'll give you glittery thrush?!? Nah, you're alright).
See also: Good Law Project and the super duper big cash generating concert (and multiple fundraisers) I wonder why these CICs are never set up as charities? If I was a cynical old fucker - and we all know I'm not - I'd suggest it suits everybody to not have to have their accounts audited and filed with the Charity Commission.

Transpeople and their allies are being rinsed by these people to line their own pockets. Hopefully when all this ends people will wake up and be a bit more circumspect about what they do with their cash. None of my business what anyone spends their cash on, I just think people think they're being kind and helpful but they're being fleeced.

 

[Funny_bunny]

I had way too much fun playing “guess the pronouns” with this link earlier https://www.transinthecity.co.uk/changemakers

It’s always the ones who look most like middle aged blokes in wigs who insist on the she/her pronouns. And the more hippie-ish ones or the ones who look like vampires going for they/them!!

There’s one that’s a “they/she/he”. What’s that all about? Of course, I think the whole pronoun thing is crazy anyway, but make your mind up FFS.

 

[moldwarp]

By far the loudest, nastiest voices in support of trans stuff either have "trans kids" or a close relative or friend that's trans. It seems to be the case pretty much every time.

Social contagian/brainwashing.

Yes, there's that, but I also think the bigger draw is that it gives Progressive Liberal men, who normally have to smother their misogyny under a pretence of Progressivism, an opportunity to berate and hate on women under the cover of doing good.

It's an inbuilt feature, not a bug, of Far Leftism and Progressivism, that its acolytes tend to be the most vocally hateful and destructive to anyone who disagrees. They also tend to employ Darvo to pretend that it's actually the conservative centre right that comprises the most hateful behaviour (indeed, the deeply dodgy and corrupt group Hope Not Hate, and the hapless posho chaps of Led By Donkeys, have both made rather lucrative careers out of employing this lie, which has brainwashed many).

It's not true. Conservatives and centre right people tend not to wish for the deaths, rapes and career destruction of their opponents. That's because a lot of us are Christian, and those who aren't still believe passionately in personal responsibility, which is a feature, not a bug of conservatism.

Far Leftism and Progressivism on the other hand, tend to dismiss human free will and blame everything bad on faceless structures of patriarchy, capitalism, colonialism, twansphobiaaaaa, blah blah blah. Which makes overt hatred not only permissible but even encouraged.

I strongly believe in all of the above from my own life experience but also because far greater thinkers than I - Aquinas, Augustine, Wittgenstein, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Orwell - also experienced it and wrote about it.

 

[DoraMaar]

 

[Also_smoke_and_mirrors]

There’s one that’s a “they/she/he”. What’s that all about? Of course, I think the whole pronoun thing is crazy anyway, but make your mind up FFS.

What's the point of stating your pronouns if any of them will do? You're not going to get 'misgendered' by anyone whether elderly with dementia or a good ole terf

 

[Metropolis]

GMB platforming old codger ‘Steph’ (“I have a gender recognition certificate, driving licence and passport so legally I am female” ) Richards, allowing him to plead #transphobia due to the backlash over his role at Endometriosis South Coast. He has just said, “I bat for women because I see the oppression they take” then goes on to lists other uniquely female anatomy problems as if he has insight (menopause, fibroids, ‘can’t get pregnant’). He’s displaying his fetish on mainstream TV (no pun intended).

 

[Peter Out]

Yes, there's that, but I also think the bigger draw is that it gives Progressive Liberal men, who normally have to smother their misogyny under a pretence of Progressivism, an opportunity to berate and hate on women under the cover of doing good.

It's an inbuilt feature, not a bug, of Far Leftism and Progressivism, that its acolytes tend to be the most vocally hateful and destructive to anyone who disagrees. They also tend to employ Darvo to pretend that it's actually the conservative centre right that comprises the most hateful behaviour (indeed, the deeply dodgy and corrupt group Hope Not Hate, and the hapless posho chaps of Led By Donkeys, have both made rather lucrative careers out of employing this lie, which has brainwashed many).

It's not true. Conservatives and centre right people tend not to wish for the deaths, rapes and career destruction of their opponents. That's because a lot of us are Christian, and those who aren't still believe passionately in personal responsibility, which is a feature, not a bug of conservatism.

Far Leftism and Progressivism on the other hand, tend to dismiss human free will and blame everything bad on faceless structures of patriarchy, capitalism, colonialism, twansphobiaaaaa, blah blah blah. Which makes overt hatred not only permissible but even encouraged.

I strongly believe in all of the above from my own life experience but also because far greater thinkers than I - Aquinas, Augustine, Wittgenstein, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Orwell - also experienced it and wrote about it.

To be fair, my old comrades in the Communist Party are against this gender nonsense. I might rejoin! (I won't really, as it's another type of barmyness).

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

Superb parody - A Hooray Henrietta who will never have to face a thug in a frock in a public toilet or changing room.

I notice that it seems the Leeds bookshop isn't giving the books away - the people who want to deface them have to a) BUY them, and b) PAY to destroy them.

If the bookshop was providing the books gratis, I would be much more impressed. Actually - no I wouldn't be impressed, but I would think that at least they had some principles.

Never mind. I'm sure that JKR is weeping uncontrollably as every volume at 12 quid a pop is torn, burned or defaced.

 

[IngressUK]

'The Old Bookbinders' pub in Oxford set to be renamed 'The New Chestbinders' in diversity drive.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/newchestbinderspub

A historic Oxford pub is set to be renamed in a diversity drive. The popular Jericho pub 'The Old Bookbinders' is set to be renamed 'The New Chestbinders' this month, to reflect the growing diverse customer base. Pub manager Dave Wilson stated 'With the growing Trans customer base, we thought it was right to rename the Pub to reflect their needs. In addition all Toilets will become gender neutral and staff referred to as they/them.'

More madness!

Spoiler

For Which it is thankfully a joke! Happy April fools day!

However, knowing how idiotic the area is becoming nowadays on such issues, would not be surprised if it did become true one day!

 

[BlairWaldorf86]

surely that’s an April fool, the chestbinders one? Hard to tell these days…

edit: that will teach me not to read the spoilers part sorry!

 

[LloydsBoosters]

Apologies if this has already been posted, I’m still
catching up on the threads.

 

[moldwarp]

To be fair, my old comrades in the Communist Party are against this gender nonsense. I might rejoin! (I won't really, as it's another type of barmyness).

The SWP are all in on TRA afaik. The British Communist Party has tried to tread a more measured line.

The problem with 'communism' is that as a political belief it's meaningless because Marxism was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of labour market dynamics and economics (eg Marx does not understand such basic things as ROI or working capital) and this was pointed out by pretty much every economist and philosopher whilst Marx was still living. And then there was a little matter of the USSR turning out to be, not a happy utopia, but a death machine. Whoopsie!! So you know, the response to that was the soixante-huitards with their absolutely BIRD BRAINED, INCOMPREHENSIBLE GOBBLE DE GOOK out of pedalos and grifters like Lacan, Foucault etc etc. And actually that's where identitarianism comes from, because Judith Butler read some Lacan and had her empty head turned.

What's the point of stating your pronouns if any of them will do? You're not going to get 'misgendered' by anyone whether elderly with dementia or a good ole terf

I lurk on the FtM subreddits and there was a rant on there recently by a poor unwell girl complaining that she hated it when people gendered her 'correctly' (ie as a 'man') because she 'could tell they were just being polite' and 'didn't really see me as a man'. So actually in her telling, being 'correctly gendered' was exacerbating her dysphoria.

That's what so many trans people are mentally ill - they can't get over the fact that they have zero control over what other people think about them in their heads.

 

[Peachsquish]

Not an April fool, all the transitioning and she still looks what is actually is a female

'Shakespeare's stories have always belonged to trans people,' says Elliot Page

Oscar-nominated actor Elliot Page will introduce a landmark all-trans and non-binary production of Shakespeare's As You Like It on the eve of London Trans+ Pride in July

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Tea_and_Biscuits]

Not sure if this is an April Fool but following that casting announcement the other day, I'm not sure!

 

[Metropolis]

Not sure if this is an April Fool but following that casting announcement the other day, I'm not sure!

Not an April Fool apparently. It was first reported in the Sun yesterday . Full article here.

Elizabeth I will be transgender in ITV drama
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/208d50001d5998b9

Didn’t someone on this thread jokingly suggest after that casting announcement that ITV would be transing Elizabeth I? Fed up with this transing of the few (compared to male) prominent female historical figures we have.

 

[esk]

Not an April Fool apparently. It was first reported in the Sun yesterday . Full article here.

Elizabeth I will be transgender in ITV drama
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/208d50001d5998b9
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Didn’t someone on this thread jokingly suggest after that casting announcement that ITV would be transing Elizabeth I? Fed up with this transing of the few prominent female historical figures we have.

Someone's taken her famous "I know I have the body of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king..." speech a bit too literally.

 

[VC10]

Most of tv now is just tit; for tit.


I watch very little of the bleeping rubbish, thank duck.

 

[moldwarp]

Someone's taken her famous "I know I have the body of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king..." speech a bit too literally.

When I was much younger and partial to a vindaloo and a bottle or two of cheap white wine of a Friday night, I used to shout this quote out to my boyfriend to warn him I was engaged in, shall we say, a violent effluxion of the gastroenteric variety. And that he might wish to avoid entering the loo for a few hours.