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Oh duck off simon. Stop telling women to be kind. I can’t even be bothered to read his trite and tedious witterings. He was a friend of Jan Morris which tells me everything I need to know about Simon. Jan Morris was a vile sexist man who was immensely cruel to his wife and daughter. Funny how so many men can just overlook that https://archive.is/2024.09.30-11572.../article/68bcdad6-77f4-11ed-b756-a5744446c41f
A man who was friends with a dress-wearing misogynist doubles down on elevating the desires of other men in dresses above the safety of girls and women. Patriarchy in action.
 
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I hope Kemp is mortified that his incompetence has made him into a national story for several days and will likely have new guidelines put in place about using AI etc. as a result of what hes done.
Trying to be billy big balls and write a super long judgment and then have so many people come out in national newspapers about what a bad job he did.


 
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There are so many red flags with this man. He tried to follow her 15 year old daughter on TikTok? I wouldn’t want my child anywhere near him.
He also participated in a drag queen story time for babies and young children. People who raised concerns about this were called bigots.

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Why isn’t he being investigated for stalking a 15 year old on social media? He sounds like a controlling, woman-hating POS who should not be in a position of power over school children. Anyone who tries to shut down others who are concerned about the safety of children should raise immediate red flags. Why are we the only ones who can see him for what he really is?
 
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I hope Kemp is mortified that his incompetence has made him into a national story for several days and will likely have new guidelines put in place about using AI etc. as a result of what hes done.
Trying to be billy big balls and write a super long judgment and then have so many people come out in national newspapers about what a bad job he did.


At this rate, why not do away with the Judge altogether and let AI decide the outcome of cases?
 
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A list of court cases, accusations, arrests, investigations and tribunals involving those standing up to gender ideology.

*Updated


2017
•Linda Bellos (UK, 2017): Investigated for alleged transphobic remarks at event; no charges.

2018
•Kate Scottow (UK, 2018): Arrested for misgendering; convicted then overturned on appeal.
•Miranda Yardley (UK, 2018): Investigated for blog misgendering a trans woman; no charges.

2021
•Marion Millar (Scotland, 2021): Charged for alleged transphobic tweets; case dropped.
•Maya Forstater v CGD Europe (UK, 2021): Beliefs protected; non-renewal discriminatory.
•Päivi Räsänen (Finland, 2021–2024): Charged for hate speech on gender/sexuality; acquitted.

2022
•Jennifer Swayne (UK, 2022): Arrested over “Women = adult human female” stickers; charges dropped.
•Caroline Farrow (UK, 2022): Arrested for tweets; charges dropped.
•Christina Ellingsen (Norway, 2022): Charged for hate speech on trans issues; acquitted.
•Allison Bailey v Garden Court Chambers (UK, 2022): Beliefs protected; some detriments upheld.
•Giggle vs Tickle (Australia, 2022–2025): Sued for gender discrimination; indirect discrimination found in 2024; appeal in 2025.

2023
•Kellie-Jay Keen (UK, 2023): Questioned over tweets; no charges filed.
•Dora Moutot (France, 2023): Complaint for incitement to hatred after misgendering; proceedings ongoing.
•Denise Fahmy v Arts Council England (UK, 2023): Won on discrimination.
•Pitt v Cambridgeshire Council (UK, 2023): Respondent conceded.

2024
•Jo Phoenix v Open University (UK, 2024): Won on discrimination.
•Rachel Meade v Social Work England (UK, 2024): Won on unfair treatment.
•Roz Adams v Edinburgh grape Crisis Centre (UK, 2024): Won on unfair dismissal.
•Esses v Metanoia Institute (UK, 2024): Settled.
•Favaro v City, University of London (UK, 2024): Settled.
•Isabella Cêpa (Brazil, 2024): Charged for “social racism” after misgendering; granted refugee status in Europe.
•JK Rowling (UK, 2024): Investigated for hate speech after misgendering trans broadcasters; no charges.

2025

•Graham Linehan (2025): Cleared of harassment for social media posts on trans issues; convicted of criminal damage for damaging a phone during an altercation.
•Sandie Peggie v NHS Fife (Scotland, 2025): Partial win on harassment; appeal ongoing.
•Kristie Higgs v Farmor’s School (UK, 2025): Appeal allowed on freedom of expression.
•O’Neill and Wayne v University College Union (UK, 2025): Claims dismissed.
•Newman v Metropolitan Police (UK, 2025): Claims dismissed.
•Frances v DCMS (UK, 2025): Settled (high value).
•Kirralie Smith (Australia, 2025): Found to have vilified trans women; ordered to pay.
 
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A list of court cases, accusations, arrests, investigations and tribunals involving those standing up to gender ideology.

*Updated


2017
•Linda Bellos (UK, 2017): Investigated for alleged transphobic remarks at event; no charges.

2018
•Kate Scottow (UK, 2018): Arrested for misgendering; convicted then overturned on appeal.
•Miranda Yardley (UK, 2018): Investigated for blog misgendering a trans woman; no charges.

2021
•Marion Millar (Scotland, 2021): Charged for alleged transphobic tweets; case dropped.
•Maya Forstater v CGD Europe (UK, 2021): Beliefs protected; non-renewal discriminatory.
•Päivi Räsänen (Finland, 2021–2024): Charged for hate speech on gender/sexuality; acquitted.

2022
•Jennifer Swayne (UK, 2022): Arrested over “Women = adult human female” stickers; charges dropped.
•Caroline Farrow (UK, 2022): Arrested for tweets; charges dropped.
•Christina Ellingsen (Norway, 2022): Charged for hate speech on trans issues; acquitted.
•Allison Bailey v Garden Court Chambers (UK, 2022): Beliefs protected; some detriments upheld.
•Giggle vs Tickle (Australia, 2022–2025): Sued for gender discrimination; indirect discrimination found in 2024; appeal in 2025.

2023
•Kellie-Jay Keen (UK, 2023): Questioned over tweets; no charges filed.
•Dora Moutot (France, 2023): Complaint for incitement to hatred after misgendering; proceedings ongoing.
•Denise Fahmy v Arts Council England (UK, 2023): Won on discrimination.
•Pitt v Cambridgeshire Council (UK, 2023): Respondent conceded.

2024
•Jo Phoenix v Open University (UK, 2024): Won on discrimination.
•Rachel Meade v Social Work England (UK, 2024): Won on unfair treatment.
•Roz Adams v Edinburgh grape Crisis Centre (UK, 2024): Won on unfair dismissal.
•Esses v Metanoia Institute (UK, 2024): Settled.
•Favaro v City, University of London (UK, 2024): Settled.
•Isabella Cêpa (Brazil, 2024): Charged for “social racism” after misgendering; granted refugee status in Europe.
•JK Rowling (UK, 2024): Investigated for hate speech after misgendering trans broadcasters; no charges.

2025

•Graham Linehan (2025): Cleared of harassment for social media posts on trans issues; convicted of criminal damage for damaging a phone during an altercation.
•Sandie Peggie v NHS Fife (Scotland, 2025): Partial win on harassment; appeal ongoing.
•Kristie Higgs v Farmor’s School (UK, 2025): Appeal allowed on freedom of expression.
•O’Neill and Wayne v University College Union (UK, 2025): Claims dismissed.
•Newman v Metropolitan Police (UK, 2025): Claims dismissed.
•Frances v DCMS (UK, 2025): Settled (high value).
•Kirralie Smith (Australia, 2025): Found to have vilified trans women; ordered to pay.
Maria Kelly needs adding to the list.

I can add this to the Wiki?
 
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I was watching Gogglebox last night and there were some celebs included with the regulars. The Tennants appeared and I shuddered. Ugh.
 
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Maria Kelly needs adding to the list.

I can add this to the Wiki?
There's also Moira Deeming who was treated appallingly by her own political party after she attended Let Women Speak in Melbourne.
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It's annoying how this says LWS was an anti-trans rights rally. The clues in the name, it's about women.
 
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Anne Woodhouse's statemet is worth a read:
This is beyond shocking - breaches of confidentiality, targeted harassment - resulting in stress, loss of earnings, loss (perhaps) of professional. status.

I hope she reports him and the Area Manager who breached her confidentiality and wipes the floor with them. They should both lose their jobs if this is a measure of how they conduct themselves. Surely the actions that these two people have taken aren't just unethical, but are actually illegal?

What a time to be alive. :(
 
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My boyfriend pissing about in the kitchen while I'm trying to get a casserole out of the oven.
Same in this house. Everybody sits around like loppy dogs all day, then I get busy in the kitchen and you'd think I had a magnet on my backside - everybody is suddenly under my feet!

EDIT - to correct autocarrot
 
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This is beyond shocking - breaches of confidentiality, targeted harassment - resulting in stress, loss of earnings, loss (perhaps) of professional. status.

I hope she reports him and the Area Manager who breached her confidentiality and wipes the floor with them. They should both lose their jobs if this is a measure of how they conduct themselves. Surely the actions that these two people have taken aren't just unethical, but are actually illegal?

What a time to be alive. :(
 
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A list of court cases, accusations, arrests, investigations and tribunals involving those standing up to gender ideology.

*Updated


2017
•Linda Bellos (UK, 2017): Investigated for alleged transphobic remarks at event; no charges.

2018
•Kate Scottow (UK, 2018): Arrested for misgendering; convicted then overturned on appeal.
•Miranda Yardley (UK, 2018): Investigated for blog misgendering a trans woman; no charges.

2021
•Marion Millar (Scotland, 2021): Charged for alleged transphobic tweets; case dropped.
•Maya Forstater v CGD Europe (UK, 2021): Beliefs protected; non-renewal discriminatory.
•Päivi Räsänen (Finland, 2021–2024): Charged for hate speech on gender/sexuality; acquitted.

2022
•Jennifer Swayne (UK, 2022): Arrested over “Women = adult human female” stickers; charges dropped.
•Caroline Farrow (UK, 2022): Arrested for tweets; charges dropped.
•Christina Ellingsen (Norway, 2022): Charged for hate speech on trans issues; acquitted.
•Allison Bailey v Garden Court Chambers (UK, 2022): Beliefs protected; some detriments upheld.
•Giggle vs Tickle (Australia, 2022–2025): Sued for gender discrimination; indirect discrimination found in 2024; appeal in 2025.

2023
•Kellie-Jay Keen (UK, 2023): Questioned over tweets; no charges filed.
•Dora Moutot (France, 2023): Complaint for incitement to hatred after misgendering; proceedings ongoing.
•Denise Fahmy v Arts Council England (UK, 2023): Won on discrimination.
•Pitt v Cambridgeshire Council (UK, 2023): Respondent conceded.

2024
•Jo Phoenix v Open University (UK, 2024): Won on discrimination.
•Rachel Meade v Social Work England (UK, 2024): Won on unfair treatment.
•Roz Adams v Edinburgh grape Crisis Centre (UK, 2024): Won on unfair dismissal.
•Esses v Metanoia Institute (UK, 2024): Settled.
•Favaro v City, University of London (UK, 2024): Settled.
•Isabella Cêpa (Brazil, 2024): Charged for “social racism” after misgendering; granted refugee status in Europe.
•JK Rowling (UK, 2024): Investigated for hate speech after misgendering trans broadcasters; no charges.

2025

•Graham Linehan (2025): Cleared of harassment for social media posts on trans issues; convicted of criminal damage for damaging a phone during an altercation.
•Sandie Peggie v NHS Fife (Scotland, 2025): Partial win on harassment; appeal ongoing.
•Kristie Higgs v Farmor’s School (UK, 2025): Appeal allowed on freedom of expression.
•O’Neill and Wayne v University College Union (UK, 2025): Claims dismissed.
•Newman v Metropolitan Police (UK, 2025): Claims dismissed.
•Frances v DCMS (UK, 2025): Settled (high value).
•Kirralie Smith (Australia, 2025): Found to have vilified trans women; ordered to pay.
They've missed Mandy Clare too.
 
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Oh duck off simon. Stop telling women to be kind. I can’t even be bothered to read his trite and tedious witterings. He was a friend of Jan Morris which tells me everything I need to know about Simon. Jan Morris was a vile sexist man who was immensely cruel to his wife and daughter. Funny how so many men can just overlook that https://archive.is/2024.09.30-11572.../article/68bcdad6-77f4-11ed-b756-a5744446c41f
I’m so fed up with men telling women how they should feel and behave. They have zero right to comment on what makes us feel uncomfortable and what our instincts alert us to as risks. They just have to centre themselves into everything. I don’t give a duck if they think we should ignore our discomfort and “be kind”. Why should we? They cannot understand what it feels like to be a woman.
 
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If I wasn't a rights hoarding dinosaur, I would almost feel sorry for Lammy and Starmer that this happened when they're trying to convince people its not a step back to rely on Judges rather than juries.
I was listening to a political podcast, Urgent questions, last night and they was a Labour MP (also a lawyer) saying that removing juries will not speed up trials, and it's simply a cost cutting exercise but the Govt aren't being honest about it.
He said that things that delay trials are prisoner transport (non category 1 defendants are transferred to court by private firms like Serco who are often late to court so the trial is delayed) or courtrooms in bad repair (such as having no working heating etc). He was a former colleague of Lammy and he was very angry with the proposals. Apparently it was recommended by a judge who's not sat in court for 20 odd years so hasn't got a clue about the problems trials currently face.
 
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The Afghans that have been found guilty of raping underage girls apparently “come from a different culture” according to their barrister.
Convenient huh 🤬
it’s never used in terrorism charges as far as iv seen. Someone plans to bomb or stab or drive a car into a crowd or kill “infidels” they are evil and have no place in a civilised western society and it doesn’t matter that they may view their action through the lens of cultural differences (of course that’s a bull excuse in ANY CRIME and personally I don’t think it should ever be a mitigating factor)

but sexual violence and it’s all oh they are from a different culture they don’t know any better.


so what we are saying is that when it is a crime that we don’t like everyone is screaming for deportation and maximum sentences but when it is a crime that generally Is targeted to only certain groups in our so (or more accurately = men aren’t likely to be victims of) we just shrug and say oh we’ll never mind that’s terrible but it’s cultural differences and we can’t be arsed to care enough to take a stand.

im not surprised as in every case iv seen, and iv seen a lot because iv worked around childhood sexual abuse the victim was treated like it didn’t matter, wether that was in the actual way they were dealt with or the outcome of investigations and sentencing and then for the rest of their life in how we refuse to put ANY decent time into setting up infrastructure to support these children/later adults with the life changing consequences and trauma they have been left with for life. And these cases were overwhelmingly nothing to do with the rise of foreign born new immigrants or different culture sexual offenders so I never thought that these newer crimes would ever be treated more seriously.

WE ARE BEING TOLD AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT WOMEN AND OUR FEMALE CHILDREN DONT AND HAVE NEVER MATTERED. and the truth is we don’t to anyone but the small group of us who do care.

Sexual violence is no different to murder imo, the act murders the person they were (even if they recover they are never the same again) the only difference is that the body is left to keep going, the damage though is permanent,
 
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Thalidomide is back in use for leprosy I believe.
I used to work in pharma research and read pharmaceutical patents 20 odd years ago describing 'drug delivery systems' for thalidomide. The 'delivery system' was essentially if the patient was a woman of childbearing age, she had to take simultaneously take a contraceptive pill with thalidomide. I seem to remember Brazil was a big market for thalidomide.

Unfortunately birth control isn't 100% effective so there were cases of babies born where their mothers were taking it during pregnancy 😕
 
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