Wow, it's an even better use of the British welfare system than I thought.
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I reckon there’s easily 15k of pins
That’d be like £27k a year over 6 years. Those things aren’t cheap for something so small
Wow that's a house deposit!
Controversial opinion perhaps but I highly doubt he is sat at home in his room, fully of sound mind, as a “normal” and well adjusted adult. I mean look at his collecting of tsum tsums and pins as well as everything else like taking napkins and other things home from the latest WDW trip. That is quite obsessive behaviour and reflective of mental health issues.
I do think he is an anxious person at home, BUT, before you all come for me, I think he has told himself that his anxiety disappears in Disney or any other place of entertainment like a theatre, or anything child like (he could be trying to claw back the childhood he never had? Just a theory!), and he’s now told himself all this so much, he now believes it. He should be honest about this when he goes for yearly medicals because they could link him in with therapy (unless he has it already?) in which they could start helping him to unpick all this and use the coping strategies he can clearly use at Disney, but in actual REAL LIFE.
That’s what’s frustrating about him for me. Is that he doesn’t want to help himself and is happy taking benefits for so long without putting the effort in to address his mental health in the long term or even at all.
Just thought I’d put in my 2 cents as someone who works in the field as it’s not as straight forward as “well they can’t have anxiety if they can do X,Y and Z” and I also say that as someone who has anxiety myself.
My main head scratcher is, how does he afford all the merchandise and spending money? Does anyone know if Adam foots the bill for this too when they go away?
I do think he is an anxious person at home, BUT, before you all come for me, I think he has told himself that his anxiety disappears in Disney or any other place of entertainment like a theatre, or anything child like (he could be trying to claw back the childhood he never had? Just a theory!), and he’s now told himself all this so much, he now believes it. He should be honest about this when he goes for yearly medicals because they could link him in with therapy (unless he has it already?) in which they could start helping him to unpick all this and use the coping strategies he can clearly use at Disney, but in actual REAL LIFE.
That’s what’s frustrating about him for me. Is that he doesn’t want to help himself and is happy taking benefits for so long without putting the effort in to address his mental health in the long term or even at all.
Just thought I’d put in my 2 cents as someone who works in the field as it’s not as straight forward as “well they can’t have anxiety if they can do X,Y and Z” and I also say that as someone who has anxiety myself.
My main head scratcher is, how does he afford all the merchandise and spending money? Does anyone know if Adam foots the bill for this too when they go away?
I've slowly started to notice this is the running theme for a lot of "theme park vloggers" They use this "Disney is my escapism" linked in with some sort of mental disorder and use it to justify paying thousands of dollars for a trip to Disney. Why is it that like 98% of Disney Vloggers all suffer from Anxiety or Depression?!?
Yes I’ve noticed this too!! In fact I came to this thread from Disney in Denial’s where I was thinking just that.
Good question. It could be a whole host of things. It could be people desperately scrambling on to their childhood (if they went to Disney as kids), it could be those who had poor or neglectful childhoods and are trying to claw back a “childhood” as an adult. It could also be a narcissistic thing where newer Disney vloggers have realised it’s a good way to make quick money and so are just being exploitative, or it could be people who are lacking a sense of identity and so have essentially adopted Disney as a personality trait, which I think is a common theme in a lot of the Disney vloggers we talk about here on Tattle like Brogan for example
There is nothing wrong with Disney obviously. I’m in my 30s and love it and love going to the parks, but not in an obsessive or unhealthy way and I have not absorbed it as part of my identity!
Well, I really think Gary is on some kind of spectrum hence why he needs to collect everything. In Adam’s latest vlog he said he also collects storybook ornaments. A 40 year old man who, on Christmas Day, only shows off his Disney gifts - there’s something not quite right.
I don’t think any of them grew up going to Disney. Gary’s first Disney vlog he was mid-30s and he never mentioned Disney before then and looks like he had no Disney merch. I think Victoria was in her 20s. I think for both of them it became a money thing as well as filling a void in their lives as neither of them are career driven.
I don’t go to WDW, I grew up going but had physical health issues a few years back and latched onto Disney again so I kinda get it. WDW is the ultimate place of escapism.
You can act like a child again, have no responsibilities and not only is it accepted, it’s encouraged.
I don’t think any of them grew up going to Disney. Gary’s first Disney vlog he was mid-30s and he never mentioned Disney before then and looks like he had no Disney merch. I think Victoria was in her 20s. I think for both of them it became a money thing as well as filling a void in their lives as neither of them are career driven.
I don’t go to WDW, I grew up going but had physical health issues a few years back and latched onto Disney again so I kinda get it. WDW is the ultimate place of escapism.
You can act like a child again, have no responsibilities and not only is it accepted, it’s encouraged.
For me, when I was going to through a really rough time (terminally ill parent, seriously stressful house move, bad time at work) I really fixated on a disney trip. Like I spent HOURS pricing hotels, transport, planning park days and outfits for a trip I never even booked. I know that sounds really sad but it took me to a lovely bubble for those hours.... I wonder if its the same for the Victoria's and Gary Cs.... An escape, although they're actually get to go whilst I couldn't afford it 
Update now I'm over that period... I don't do it anymore
Update now I'm over that period... I don't do it anymore
I also think his anxiety issues are genuine. I say this as someone who also has a ("clinically meaningful" is the term I think) anxiety disorder. It takes work to overcome your issues though. He might be "working" on his issues whilst doing fun things like Disney or performing but he could be working on them to be a productive member of society as well. I get it, there's only a certain amount of mental endurance people get and if you have a mental illness, our endurance is lower. It looks TERRIBLE though, when he's using it on fun stuff only and claiming benefits. What I'm saying is I think I know where he's coming from and how he's able to do certain things, but yes, it doesn't look fair that he can spend tax payer money on god knows how much tat.
Agree as well that no neuro typical person would collect so much stuff to that extent. One or two collections, sure. I don't know how many Gary has though.
Agree as well that no neuro typical person would collect so much stuff to that extent. One or two collections, sure. I don't know how many Gary has though.
Very well said
Do you walk around Walt Disney World dressed as a pumpkin?
I'm not making light of anxiety, because I have plenty of patients (and a spouse) who have very debilitating anxiety and panic attacks. But almost all of them also do what they can--medication with or without talk therapy--that helps them function in society. Gary never seems to do ANYTHING aside from buy overpriced tit and travel. He doesn't even do his own cooking or washing.
He's not working on his anxiety, he's reveling in it.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but everyone experiences anxiety differently and Gary might not have issues if he's "performing" as such. Hence why he can do stupid stuff like that with what appears to be little issue.
Please don't take my thinking out loud stuff the wrong way, I think it is wrong what he does and he should pull his finger out and act like an adult when he's not in Performance mode. I just like a bit of armchair psychology when it comes to influencers
To me it seems like Gary does not have much of a life outside of Adam and Disney and I imagine he doesn't have to contribute to rent/bills etc at home so saves his benefit money for Disney, benefits are also there to help people have some quality of life too, what would be acceptable for him to spend the money on? In terms of his anxiety and being able to prance around Disney, I think it could be different for someone with anxiety, he's doing it on his own terms and isn't forced to do any of it, whereas in a job you could be approached by people left right and centre asking questions here and there which could be overwhelming ... 
I go on holiday once every three years or so as that's all I can afford so I do understand people's frustrations when it comes to people on benefits going regularly
I go on holiday once every three years or so as that's all I can afford so I do understand people's frustrations when it comes to people on benefits going regularly
I've written before that I find it very hard to believe he has not been reported. Having worked there I would bet good money that he's been reported more than once by viewers/tattlers. I am not 100% convinced that he is getting benefits, if he is he will have doctor's reports etc because he's not on jobseekers with the way they hound people these days. If he is getting a disability payment it's very low. You're talking less than £300 a month, even if he saved every penny it wouldn't cover the merch alone. His family gives him spending money. I think the 'Gary cam' (sickening, the fact that Adam edits those in makes my skin crawl) is evidence that Adam pays for the trips and Gary comes along and provides Adam with the views.
I've had anxiety in the past and I found mental health services really hard to access in the UK. In the end, I went private as I had health insurance through my job but still struggled to find someone to see me regularly with most being based in London. Before going private I was waiting for ages, had no control over the frequency of appointments or who I saw. What I did find was GPs who throw doctor's certs and tablets at you. Mable912 makes several good points in her posts and I think it's easy to fall into that trap and not get out if you don't really advocate for yourself and if you were able to advocate for yourself and get the help you needed you'd already have had the breakthrough and wouldn't need the help, it's so frustrating.
I've had anxiety in the past and I found mental health services really hard to access in the UK. In the end, I went private as I had health insurance through my job but still struggled to find someone to see me regularly with most being based in London. Before going private I was waiting for ages, had no control over the frequency of appointments or who I saw. What I did find was GPs who throw doctor's certs and tablets at you. Mable912 makes several good points in her posts and I think it's easy to fall into that trap and not get out if you don't really advocate for yourself and if you were able to advocate for yourself and get the help you needed you'd already have had the breakthrough and wouldn't need the help, it's so frustrating.
I can’t help but think all that poor man has ( at 40 ) is a bedroom at his parents house full of Disney tit and is expected to be adams ‘ silly ol’ side kick ‘ on cue when he whips his camera out ! It’s not really much of a life, even his luggage is meagre, Adams all luxury Mickey cases and he has a duffel bag straight out of bed knobs and broomsticks, I’m
More upset he put ups with the lap dog routine and a friendship with brogan the great unwashed
More upset he put ups with the lap dog routine and a friendship with brogan the great unwashed
I totally agree. Adam seems a little more in-tune and business minded and there’s just apparent exploitation going on in his and Gary’s friendship (or business-ship as I call it)I can’t help but think all that poor man has ( at 40 ) is a bedroom at his parents house full of Disney tit and is expected to be adams ‘ silly ol’ side kick ‘ on cue when he whips his camera out ! It’s not really much of a life, even his luggage is meagre, Adams all luxury Mickey cases and he has a duffel bag straight out of bed knobs and broomsticks, I’m
More upset he put ups with the lap dog routine and a friendship with brogan the great unwashed
You can tell Adam was brought up in privilege by the way he loves to brag about his travels, Disney trips to FL as a kid, him living with his parents until recently which allowed him to travel so much.
Being a business owner myself and being surrounded by business minded people (and how they’re so quick to take advantage of any sort of opportunity to gain traction in their business) it’s plain to see that Adam is milking Gary as a “sidekick comedic character” in his vlogs. I just really hope Gary is playing it smart and locking in some sort of compensation deal for adding to Adam’s content.
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