Eve Cornwell

The thing that gets me is that she would have entered law without thinking that she was LGBTQ and therefore 'out of place' in some way

Magallanes said:

for me, the title reminded me of those tumblr and aesthetic notes that girls take in school in which they write something like The Holocaust
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Why is in her mind being openly lgbtq = being unprofessional. Like I get that traditional business wear can be considered heteronormative (and generally not inclusive), but that doesn’t mean you have to sit on a table in your dirty ass converse for a talk?

bublifuk said:

Why is in her mind being openly lgbtq = being unprofessional. Like I get that traditional business wear can be considered heteronormative (and generally not inclusive), but that doesn’t mean you have to sit on a table in your dirty ass converse for a talk?

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Honestly she just sounds like a middle-aged teacher trying desperately to show the students that she's unique and cool and relatable but just looking like an out-of-touch embarrassment. Choosing to wear Converse to a business meeting isn't unique. It's the boardroom hipster cliché.

There's a line between being yourself in a professional setting and desperately trying to be unique, and she's several miles over that line. Nobody's going to care if she's gay, or refuses to wear a skirt and high heels, but the "I'm so cool" try-hardyness of slobbing around sitting on top of desks in the world's most commonly-worn sneakers doesn't come off as unique or authentic, it just makes you look like a douche.

gossip_guy said:

Honestly she just sounds like a middle-aged teacher trying desperately to show the students that she's unique and cool and relatable but just looking like an out-of-touch embarrassment. Choosing to wear Converse to a business meeting isn't unique. It's the boardroom hipster cliché.

There's a line between being yourself in a professional setting and desperately trying to be unique, and she's several miles over that line. Nobody's going to care if she's gay, or refuses to wear a skirt and high heels, but the "I'm so cool" try-hardyness of slobbing around sitting on top of desks in the world's most commonly-worn sneakers doesn't come off as unique or authentic, it just makes you look like a douche.

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Still, not wanting to wear skirts and heels is not reserved for queer people only in the first place. Also no one will really care nowadays that you as a woman don't like to wear skirts and heels - I worked in few legal / finance offices which require formal or just smart casual wear and most women were wearing comfortable but professional outfits. 99% of the time I wear pants and trainers to the office and it's not a big deal.

OT but sometimes I really think that some people want to feel important and special and try to make themselves seem like they're fighting the fight and making a change but in reality they just push and over exaggerate everything to the point that public gets fed up with the group as a whole (like feminists or queer as a whole) despite the fact that only some of them are annoying and dumb but unfortunately these shout the loudest so to say and make more damage than good in the end. I think Eve is one of these people - since she identified herself as a queer she kept pushing this fact everywhere to make herself seem so excluded and tries to make everyone believe how she's fighting the fight every day - but these mostly include her right to wear neon coloured quirky outfits to work, having quirky hairstyle, behaving quirky and expecting everyone everywhere will acknowledge the sole fact she likes women not men even if no one cares. It's a super stereotypical take and I get that to some extent she may be like that cause it's new to her etc. but at the same time she's an adult, she's supposedly intelligent and she should therefore understand that in places like office etc. she has to abide to basic rules and that NO ONE CARES. I have a bunch of friends that are queer and all they want is normalcy and normal treatment not fanfares and stereotypes. Not to mention that non-queer people should also not have their identity second guessed just because they like to wear / not wear or behave in ways other that the "gendered" norms. I feel lately we're going backwards in this department and while we had the "girls can play with cars and still be women and feminine (if they want to)" now it's "oh she doesn't like wearing skirts and likes cars - she must be transgender". I'm in my late 20s and everywhere in the media I see content which pushes on me the second guessing of my sexuality, identity, hairstyle, things I like, e v e r y t h i n g because for some reason that's considered as evolved nowadays. | end of rant, sorry it got so long |

Either way, I feel she seems to take offence at the sole fact that some industries require more professional wear and behavior when she sees herself as a snowflake and minority and takes everything as discrimination. In my opinion and having talked with my queer friends about it many times, seeing being queer solely as being quirky and try-hard different than others in every area of life is super pretentious and stereotypical - reminds me of the stereotypical gay man portrayal as a man who has high pitched voice, loves madonna and britney spears, is bffs with every woman and is in fashion industry ofc. It's so detrimental to the community tbh because then you can't just be your normal self or be a very masculine gay man or very feminine gay woman or just be a masculine woman because society keeps second guessing you. Things like that are supposed to be normalised, not qUiRkY.

her recent video is disgusting. I clicked on it but couldn't bring myself to watch it and just ended up reading through the comments. I'm so disappointed in Eve. I loved her videos because I felt like she was relatable but nowadays she just seems like another rich London influencer girly who's trying very hard to be quirky. I am genuinely so so happy for her that she's comfortable in her sexuality now and is living life the way she wants to, and it might be that when you meet her she's a bit more toned down and genuine but lately everything on her social media has either been extremely cringey or outright disappointing...

edit: i am super interested in the people she's friends with - are they all at the same level of privilege and pretentiousness?? I feel like people very much reinforce this kind of cringe behavior

Insisting on a dress code in the workplace isn't homophobic/transphobic/queerphobic. It's just corporate standards.

Besides, you're always hearing about people like that Pips Bunce nutter who are women one day and men the next, in high positions in companies.

Merpedy said:

The thing that gets me is that she would have entered law without thinking that she was LGBTQ and therefore 'out of place' in some way

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She wasn't out but we don't know if she knew herself that she was into girls, and how that played into her ideas about having to 'pass' as straight to fit in.

YellowLadybird said:

She wasn't out but we don't know if she knew herself that she was into girls, and how that played into her ideas about having to 'pass' as straight to fit in.

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But that’s the thing - your sexual preferences should not immediately determine your whole personality, especially at work.

I hate how she thinks she’s such a trail-blazer. The corporate world is full to the brim of powerful lesbians.

Yeah, hasn't that literally been the stereotype for women in corporate jobs for years (and years and years) ?

Just saw she has posted a new video, anyone want to sacrifice themselves and watch it and report back here if it actually brought anything of value please? After having suffered through her last one for about two minutes actually cannot bring myself to even click on this one...as am still feeling a bit uncomfortable about the last one...I suppose at least the new video relates to the kind of law she actually studied and worked with.

ChipButties said:

Yeah, hasn't that literally been the stereotype for women in corporate jobs for years (and years and years) ?

Just saw she has posted a new video, anyone want to sacrifice themselves and watch it and report back here if it actually brought anything of value please? After having suffered through her last one for about two minutes actually cannot bring myself to even click on this one...as am still feeling a bit uncomfortable about the last one...I suppose at least the new video relates to the kind of law she actually studied and worked with.

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I watched most of it. She should just retire from YouTube already. It's much less tasteless than the other one purely because it's such a stupid case surrounding the petty fight between two famous-for-no-reason "celebrities" and nobody died this time. But it's just more of Eve's tired, talentless, cash-grab bullshit.



Almost the entire video has on-screen ads for Fiver, along with a tonne of intrusive, incredibly cheap and amateurish animations. If this is the best Eve could find on Fiver, it doesn't exactly sell the platform well.

Eve spends the whole video obnoxiously flapping her hands around a lot while not saying anything new, anything of merit and just recycles content from other sources. All for a video about a fluff story that's old news.

She's somehow left it too late to talk about the case when it was trending and relevant, but didn't wait a few weeks until the verdict was announced to discuss the complete story. It's so sloppily constructed.

I don't really know what the point in any of what she's doing now is. She's paying other people to do all her work for her, so you would expect some new measure of quality or substance, but the end result is still so wafer-thin, lazy and half-assed. She also doesn't bring anything to the table at all. She offers no legal perspective beyond that which anyone who'd looked up the Wikipedia entry for 'defamation' could also provide. In fact, she seems to be Googling this shit in real time while filming and reading scripted information put together by her paid researcher for the most basic shit. Her input is basically: "Here's a recap of the case as found via Google. Who knows what will happen with the verdict, but it'll be interesting to see. Follow me on social media."

It's kind of easy to see why she pivoted away from wanting to practice law so quickly - she's trying real hard to be cool, charming and charismatic and coming across as pretentious, smarmy and condescending, but also can't seem to retain even basic legal information even though her entire studytube career was build around pushing toxic productivity and rote memorisation. If these videos are indicative of her courtroom prowess, research skills and on-the-spot thinking, then she must've been one shitty lawyer.



She also spends a substantial chunk of the video talking to the camera in this pose for some reason. It looks so fucking awkward.

Is this another of her bizarre "business meeting" things? "I only give speeches when sitting on a desk in Converse. But when I'm on my practicing-the-law game, you know I'm changing things up by leaning across the desk to get all up in the judge and jury's grills. They won't know if you're awkwardly trying to seduce them or getting all confrontational and trying to psych them out, but either way, it will increase your chance of winning a case by 36%, 23% of the time!"

You could read the Wikipedia page on the case in 5 minutes and get more information than this 22 minute extended ad.

gossip_guy said:

I watched most of it. She should just retire from YouTube already. It's much less tasteless than the other one purely because it's such a stupid case surrounding the petty fight between two famous-for-no-reason "celebrities" and nobody died this time. But it's just more of Eve's tired, talentless, cash-grab bullshit.

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Almost the entire video has on-screen ads for Fiver, along with a tonne of intrusive, incredibly cheap and amateurish animations. If this is the best Eve could find on Fiver, it doesn't exactly sell the platform well.

Eve spends the whole video obnoxiously flapping her hands around a lot while not saying anything new, anything of merit and just recycles content from other sources. All for a video about a fluff story that's old news.

She's somehow left it too late to talk about the case when it was trending and relevant, but didn't wait a few weeks until the verdict was announced to discuss the complete story. It's so sloppily constructed.

I don't really know what the point in any of what she's doing now is. She's paying other people to do all her work for her, so you would expect some new measure of quality or substance, but the end result is still so wafer-thin, lazy and half-assed. She also doesn't bring anything to the table at all. She offers no legal perspective beyond that which anyone who'd looked up the Wikipedia entry for 'defamation' could also provide. In fact, she seems to be Googling this shit in real time while filming and reading scripted information put together by her paid researcher for the most basic shit. Her input is basically: "Here's a recap of the case as found via Google. Who knows what will happen with the verdict, but it'll be interesting to see. Follow me on social media."

It's kind of easy to see why she pivoted away from wanting to practice law so quickly - she's trying real hard to be cool, charming and charismatic and coming across as pretentious, smarmy and condescending, but also can't seem to retain even basic legal information even though her entire studytube career was build around pushing toxic productivity and rote memorisation. If these videos are indicative of her courtroom prowess, research skills and on-the-spot thinking, then she must've been one shitty lawyer.

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She also spends a substantial chunk of the video talking to the camera in this pose for some reason. It looks so fucking awkward.

Is this another of her bizarre "business meeting" things? "I only give speeches when sitting on a desk in Converse. But when I'm on my practicing-the-law game, you know I'm changing things up by leaning across the desk to get all up in the judge and jury's grills. They won't know if you're awkwardly trying to seduce them or getting all confrontational and trying to psych them out, but either way, it will increase your chance of winning a case by 36%, 23% of the time!"

You could read the Wikipedia page on the case in 5 minutes and get more information than this 22 minute extended ad.

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Aah thanks so much, think your summary was definitely way more entertaining and insightful than watching that video could ever have been.

And about that pose - looks likes she's been ever so slightly constipated for the last 3-5 days and is trying to help induce a bowel movement by doing that.

I miss her casual vlogs, it was like a friend chatting to you. Now it feels like the videos only serve to bolster her ego - it’s like a smug (but also insecure) teacher talking to you.

Also, I wish she would address non-trending subjects, I think they would be more interesting and unique. Low views are still worthy if they are consistent. Lucy Moon doesn’t pull the same kind of views as she did years ago but she still gains regular views every week and her brand is really consistent.

peach1234 said:

I miss her casual vlogs, it was like a friend chatting to you. Now it feels like the videos only serve to bolster her ego - it’s like a smug (but also insecure) teacher talking to you.

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Yup, a condescending substitute teacher trying to win over a class of kids, only she's cringe as fuck, everyone's generally much more knowledgeable than her about everything, and her finger is about two to six years away from the pulse of current trends.

Her new video's no different.

She offers up the opinion that Robin Thicke is a bit creepy as though it's a hot take, even though he's been a well-publicised creeper for quite some time. This is a bit like saying, "Guys, I don't want to alarm anyone, but I have my suspicions that Harvey Weinstein might not be a good person." Only, y'know, saying it without a trace of sarcasm or irony.

Plagiarism in music will always be relevant since there will always be new cases, both frivolous and with merit. But all the cases she goes over are old as fuck now and have already been discussed to death. She brings nothing to the discussion, let alone anything new. Her videos are now 'Here are Wikipedia summaries of famous legal cases from ages ago with no real opinion or insight'.

She has nothing to offer from a musical perspective, having no apparent technical knowledge of music, so she just cribs material and includes clips from the videos other YouTubers who've explored this in much greater depth with actual knowledge and experience.

She also has no legal perspective to offer on the situation. Like the last video, she's just parroting legal quotes and definitions from other sources, and even then it's the most basic shit. She makes blanket statements without really showing anything. Like one of the cases she talks about the Mariah Carey v Andy Stone lawsuit over 'All I Want For Christmas is You'. She essentially says, "This case is different because there appear to be no similarities between the songs, just the lyrics." Okay. So give examples.

Video is an audio-visual medium. If you're going to talk about two songs being similar, provide clips of the songs in question to compare. Show the lyrical similarities. This is a video essay, so provide the viewer with shorthand visual and audio aids so they don't have to go watch two other videos to see what you're talking about. Hearing someone say "two songs are similar and/or different in several ways" is pointless, lazy content.

And it's so half-assed and amateurish. Again, she's paying someone to research and edit videos for her now, so why do they still look and sound like smashed ass? She's recording in the most wide, echoey room she could find. It sounds awful.



She's looking down to read from a script for most of the video, and she reads it with awkward uncertainty, like it's the first time she read that shit. She mispronounces "plagiarised" and it stayed in - no second take. If you're gonna use a script, maybe rehearse it and memorise the lines so it doesn't seem so forced and lazy.



For comparison, Legal Eagle covered the same ground two fucking years ago.

The comparison's especially damning for Eve since she talks about the same case and uses clips from the same music YouTuber that Legal Eagle brought on as a guest expert (and coincidentally has the same sponsor, and while Legal Eagle leaves his sponsor segment until the end, Eve frontloads it so it's the first thing you see).

He's naturally more charismatic than Eve, which helps, but it's infinitely better researched, he provides much broader, deeper and more informed legal context, he brought on an expert with knowledge of music to offer context from that perpective, and he made the video immediately following the case, when it was peak relevance. Eve is doing this shit far too late and far too half-assed.

I'm still baffled why she's clinging to YouTube if she clearly has no interest in or talent for it and already has a full-time job.

in her latest video, the way she’s dressed is almost a parody of herself, trying to fit into a stereotype millennial unwashed hippie who (not so secretly) works for The Man but thinks they’re so woke that it doesn’t make them a massive hypocrite

Play-jay-raised. HOW EVE, HOW.

At best I’d assume she was a 1st year law student from watching this video if I didn’t know better. Just stop. Please.

She's currently patting herself on the back in her Instagram stories for how creative and how much research she's been doing and oh god, she's doing a Roe v Wade video...

After the tasteless, exploitative, tone-deaf Alec Baldwin video and the two fluff messes that followed, she should not be allowed anywhere near this kind of serious subject matter. She's learned nothing.

gossip_guy said:

She's currently patting herself on the back in her Instagram stories for how creative and how much research she's been doing and oh god, she's doing a Roe v Wade video...

After the tasteless, exploitative, tone-deaf Alec Baldwin video and the two fluff messes that followed, she should not be allowed anywhere near this kind of serious subject matter. She's learned nothing.

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A legal take regarding this might actually be interesting as a lot of the conversation seems to be driven by people’s own opinions - which is fine and understandable, but is also slightly removed from how the law deals with it. Given that I’ve seen TikToks trying to seemingly incite violence against those judges, it may be good for the conversation and Eve might be a good person for that because she appeals to younger audiences, though I doubt she appeals to many Americans

Granted, she has problems with the way she has been doing these videos already so I’m not entirely sure she will actually do anything worthwhile

gossip_guy said:

She's currently patting herself on the back in her Instagram stories for how creative and how much research she's been doing and oh god, she's doing a Roe v Wade video...

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If only the decision had been leaked so she'd have known it was coming and been ready with a well-researched and informed video once the decision was announced...

her channel is going downhill FAST. her editing is what made her stand out from other studytubers, now she's hired an editor. I enjoyed her chatty vlogs because they felt relatable and personal, now she's hired a researcher to do surface level and tasteless legal videos. honestly she's wasting so much money...but I guess all those sponsorship deals help...