It's tax free and sounds incredible (& that sounds like an incredible wage for a teacher here to be honest ..) but the cost of living is VERY expensive. Apartments, fresh food, things like decent washing powder are so expensive. Most people who flaunt it here are getting alot of freebies due to their work (ahemmm) or racked up on credit.
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shes got like 14 years of experience and has been in Dubai for 10 years tbf and has some further qualifications, but yeah it’s dizzying. I heard a pint is like £11. How much is e.g. a mango (trying to think of something they might be able to grow there)?
Mostly everything is imported. Unless you want camel's milk! Ha! .. Fresh produce goes stale very quickly (as it has been imported), as a result people tend to gain weight here. People lack vitamin D here which is hilarious. We spend most of our time inside. We also work longer hours here, work is pretty long & stressful. Of course, everyone's experiences are different.
The cheapest mango I could find (single pack?) is 24.50aed (5.00 British pounds). Stuff like toothpaste, shower gel etc. is $$$
Same as the Cayman Islands, a friend moved there and said stuff like toiletries were eye wateringly expensiveMostly everything is imported. Unless you want camel's milk! Ha! .. Fresh produce goes stale very quickly (as it has been imported), as a result people tend to gain weight here. People lack vitamin D here which is hilarious. We spend most of our time inside. We also work longer hours here, work is pretty long & stressful. Of course, everyone's experiences are different.
The cheapest mango I could find (single pack?) is 24.50aed (5.00 British pounds). Stuff like toothpaste, shower gel etc. is $$$
Well, your post based on false assumptions here. I'm not "white" or at least, I don't classify myself as such even though census generally classifies my ethnicity as "white - other". The part of about "resembling" me and my circle is a bit out of line. Nor am I US based.We all face true poverty no matter where we live. In India like everywhere there are poor and rich, but you can avoid it if you want. In fact the poverty in the EU is the same rate as in India.
Regarding sexual harassment let's not forget India has 1.4 billion people so any statistic about grape as well as poverty etc. Is proportionate to the population. It does sound a bit iffy from your side because it is based on your own biases and assumptions. This happens everywhere and if anything I'd feel much safer in India than in some European countries. Statistically, an act of sexual violence happens every 70 seconds in the US. And in India? Every 16 minutes. Being anywhere in the world doesn't protect you from this, it's just the colonial mindset that makes people afraid/ look at others in a different way. The only reason why you would feel safer in the US is because its in the west, there are a lot of people that resemble you and your circles i.e. White people.
I'm not trying to change your mind or offend you, just wanted to point this out because it's a common misconception. I would highly recommend going on holiday there and experience first hand
I'm not saying the US is any safer than India nor am I saying there is no poverty in the US or developed countries. Never mind the safety statistics, I would feel uncomfortable living the life of a "privileged" expat in a country where the visible majority of the population is struggling and where society is ruled by a "cast" principle.
I'm sure India is a great country and has a lot to offer culturally. As I said, I'd love to visit someday, but this is my personal perspective on the long-term prospect.
Yes, this person I know said there’s a Dubai stone you end up putting on when you move thereMostly everything is imported. Unless you want camel's milk! Ha! .. Fresh produce goes stale very quickly (as it has been imported), as a result people tend to gain weight here. People lack vitamin D here which is hilarious. We spend most of our time inside. We also work longer hours here, work is pretty long & stressful. Of course, everyone's experiences are different.
The cheapest mango I could find (single pack?) is 24.50aed (5.00 British pounds). Stuff like toothpaste, shower gel etc. is $$$
she said as well that people there work late there and that there aren’t unions or as many workers’ rights protections. Apparently it’s not uncommon for people to get screwed out of the last bit of their salary when they leave a job there and that being in debt is criminalised which sounds like a risky combination. Have you heard much about that? Is there any other reason (apart from living costs) you’re thinking to move back to the UK? this friend said the heyday has been and gone for expats in Dubai.I have a ten year career/study plan and am thinking that the only time I will be able to live abroad will be in 2024-6 in between two of those “stages”. So much can change in two years but it also seems like hardly any time to save for and orchestrate such a big move, especially if I am thinking to work rather than just travel!
Can see this thread hasn’t been used since 2022, but I’ll post anyway.
me and my partner are seriously thinking about Australia. We don’t feel like our children will have the opportunities / lifestyle we want for them in the UK. My partner is on the skilled list so we know we’d get in via him. But it just feels daunting. We’ve floated the idea to family, his side said they wouldn’t blame us if we went, which was surprising as he is an only child, so the only grandkids they have would be going too, where as my side told us not to.
I would feel incredibly guilty about taking the children from grandparents, friends etc. but it’s also an itch we can’t scratch, if we don’t try we’ll never know, if we decided then it wasn’t for us then we couldn’t say we hadn’t tried. We are very tempted to visit Aus first. And go from there. But we know the UK isn’t where we want to raise our children, but to take them from everything they know, I just don’t know.
ETA - we are both mid 20s. So have years before we’d be too old to get in.
me and my partner are seriously thinking about Australia. We don’t feel like our children will have the opportunities / lifestyle we want for them in the UK. My partner is on the skilled list so we know we’d get in via him. But it just feels daunting. We’ve floated the idea to family, his side said they wouldn’t blame us if we went, which was surprising as he is an only child, so the only grandkids they have would be going too, where as my side told us not to.
I would feel incredibly guilty about taking the children from grandparents, friends etc. but it’s also an itch we can’t scratch, if we don’t try we’ll never know, if we decided then it wasn’t for us then we couldn’t say we hadn’t tried. We are very tempted to visit Aus first. And go from there. But we know the UK isn’t where we want to raise our children, but to take them from everything they know, I just don’t know.
ETA - we are both mid 20s. So have years before we’d be too old to get in.
It’s a huge decision so it’s bound to be a bit daunting. The way I see it is I’d rather give it a go and have no regrets. I’d hate to always think what if! In addition, I think people get scared out of emigrating being a permanent thing. It’s not! If you don’t like it then you can always come back!
If you have the money to go visit it first then I would just to get an idea of what areas you like, research it a bit.
As for feeling guilty, we live in an age where technology means we can be easily connected all the time. There’s FaceTime, Skype etc. I was talking to someone online and she said it was weird but her kids speak to her mum and dad more than when they lived here! She said they’d pay an in person visit once a week but now her kids call their grandparents every other day filling them in on their new lives down under! Yes it’s not in person but they still feel as close as ever to their grandparents.
Get on Instagram and get chatting on there- there’s such a helpful community on there of people who are thinking of doing it or have done it. Really useful to chat to people about areas/schools/lifestyle etc.
Can I ask how old are your kids? If you don’t want to say ages are they in school? We are considering moving to Portugal. We’ve a 3 and 2 year old and we think it might be best to move before they start school and at their ages it would be less of a big change. We don’t want to let them start school, make friends and then take them away
They are both under 5. We live in wales so child 1 has already started school. As they start age 3 here. Everyone says kids are resilient and adapt to everything but it’s still a massive decision, we are very seriously considering it
You're young, your kids are young - it's the perfect time to do it. Like the other posters say, if you hate it, you can come back, and wow what an experience you'll have to look back on. My family came to the UK (from another European country) when me and my siblings were teenagers. It didn't take long for us to settle and learn a new way of life. With Australia, you won't have to learn a new language, lots of things will be familiar, and you wouldn't be the only Brits there, either. Research it in LOTS of detail. I agree with the people saying try it, if it doesn't work out come back and at least you'll have given it a go. That's got to be better than not trying at all, right?
Try it and give yourselves a good year or two to settle in and if you hate it then come back!
Nothing is final and if the culture and way of life doesn’t work for you then nothing stops you coming back “home”.
I say this easily only because I’m the type of person who jumps in and don’t feel like a failure if things don’t work out. I always feel rather take opportunities and “fail” than always regret the untrodden path. I’m in my 40’s and would still try something like this
I’m older now but emigrated in my late 20’s with the intention of returning. We are still away 27 years later. Things to consider, looking back.
- if you have parents, there will come a time when they won’t be able to travel to visit you due to age and so you’ll feel guilty. The guilt is huge
- my children have a decent enough relationship with the grandparents but that’s about it.
- after a while people you know will forget about you and your friendships will drift to almost nothing. The internet makes contact easier but people are busy aNd life gets in the way.
- consider the distance. Australia is far and traveling back to see family is costly and a big distance
These are things I am much more concerned about as I’ve got older and my parents have aged. Positives, you put down new roots, quality of life is better, weather isn’t so depressing.
Again, I know this is an old thread but really interested to see what you decided? We’re in a similar position…
My husband has always been keen for an Australia move but I’ve always said no. Until we went for a big holiday late last year to see his siblings who live there (one permanent, one on a working visa) and I nearly sold myself the dream. We have 2 kids, 4 and 2 and my eldest just loves being outdoors. The weather was great, felt like a laidback way of life, and I thought maybe I could see myself here.
Towards the end though I was ready to come home. We landed in England and I just had the sense of being home. Walked into the house and again, just this sense of this is where I live. Since being back my desire to relocate is slowly slipping away and I feel so uncertain about uprooting my life. Even if it’s temporary, I’ve been building a business based on my profession in the last year, kids about to start school, the thought of going back and forth and starting again unsettles me. However husband is still keen and I now feel I’m avoiding discussions.
my head says it’s a better option for the kids but I don’t just want to equate a better childhood with trips to the beach. We’re outdoors a lot here in the summer anyway, i have huge dreams for a holiday home in Italy and I parent a lot on my own as husband works long hours. The thought of being alone out there terrifies me.
Feeling overwhelmed with it all at the moment so interested to hear more views!
Hi!
So we are still in the UK. My partners family is very very small so he’s close to them all, but age is not on their side so he wouldn’t want to be far away during last years.
UK weather gets me down, we are a very outdoorsy family so we spend a lot of time outside, so nice weather wouldn’t go a miss, however we do get out in all weathers, it builds character as
I do believe there’s more out there, but we are trying (on a budget) to explore more, and see more, whether it be local, or holidays/experiences.
Basically, we are trying to make the most of what we have here, while we can.
Differently from you though, we wouldn’t know anyone out there. No family, friends, nothing. It would be a blind gamble for us.
Me and my partner are still young, we had children, bought a house young, so we have the advantage he’s a skilled worker, and we aren’t running out of time, age wise to go.
I still think about it, often weekly. But I think if it’s right or the right time for your family, you will simply know deep down, and as much as we’ve spoken about it. We haven’t had that “YES LETS DO IT” feeling.
Australia is on our list one day, we will get there, whether it be to travel or to live, who knows.
So we are still in the UK. My partners family is very very small so he’s close to them all, but age is not on their side so he wouldn’t want to be far away during last years.
UK weather gets me down, we are a very outdoorsy family so we spend a lot of time outside, so nice weather wouldn’t go a miss, however we do get out in all weathers, it builds character as
I do believe there’s more out there, but we are trying (on a budget) to explore more, and see more, whether it be local, or holidays/experiences.
Basically, we are trying to make the most of what we have here, while we can.
Differently from you though, we wouldn’t know anyone out there. No family, friends, nothing. It would be a blind gamble for us.
Me and my partner are still young, we had children, bought a house young, so we have the advantage he’s a skilled worker, and we aren’t running out of time, age wise to go.
I still think about it, often weekly. But I think if it’s right or the right time for your family, you will simply know deep down, and as much as we’ve spoken about it. We haven’t had that “YES LETS DO IT” feeling.
Australia is on our list one day, we will get there, whether it be to travel or to live, who knows.
If I were you I’d get the working holiday and go!! It’s not too late. My friend is on one and she’s 35
Theres parental visas for people who have more than 50% of their children living in Australia. I was chatting to a girl on Sydney a few months ago who’s mum is applying now.
I don’t know if it’s the same visa I’m thinking of, but the one I’m aware of the ETA for mum arriving in Aussie is 30 years from when her name is put into the visa lottery. The idea is that they die before Australia has to start looking after them.
Just an hello from someone who emigrated to Australia last year with 3 under 5 at the time and so far, no regrets. Yes we miss friends and family, but I LOVE the lifestyle for my kids and I don’t think I’d ever go back to the UK now?
My mum & dad we looking at the visa options after spending time out here with us, which would just make us feel even more settled
My mum & dad we looking at the visa options after spending time out here with us, which would just make us feel even more settled
Where in Australia did you move to? I feel like I have one part of me saying I should do it for all the obvious reasons but another part of me just really doesn’t want to go!!! My husband wants to go on another holiday there next year but there’s so many other things I want to spend our money on!Just an hello from someone who emigrated to Australia last year with 3 under 5 at the time and so far, no regrets. Yes we miss friends and family, but I LOVE the lifestyle for my kids and I don’t think I’d ever go back to the UK now?
My mum & dad we looking at the visa options after spending time out here with us, which would just make us feel even more settled