Dylan Mulvaney

[Phil Anne Throw Pee]

I understand what you're saying and I actually went through my post changing 'he' and 'his' not knowing what to do it's such a delicate, touchy subject. If I'd have left it, no doubt someone else would have jumped on me. I didn't know what to do but I certainly didn't set out to rattle anyone's cage.

You're asking people to try and understand and comprehend something that, unless we've experienced ourselves, we simply never will. I've never had a psychotic episode so I can't fully comprehend how that feels. I've never wanted to hunt and kill an animal so cannot wrap my head around why people do that.

Further, I don't feel offended nor threatened by trans people. I've not spent enough time researching it to really form an opinion or to know what I'm talking about. I do however understand why some women don't like it.

What I am offended by, however, is you being rude to me. Suggesting I tell women to 'go duck themselves'. I assume you're a woman? Your comment alone goes against women's solidarity. Surely this is what Dylan threatens? Please don't be nasty to me again. There was no reason to jump on me in that manner.

Apologies for butting in, but me, and many other women both in real life and on here are feeling tit scared and disenfranchised right now. The concept of 'women's solidarity' seems to have been hijacked by the 'be kind' and other such performative 'movements'. The word woman is now offensive. Women no longer have the right to their own free or safe spaces. We now have to accommodate men with penises who have decided they are women. Do I feel threatened and terrified? Yes. Am I going to fight with every fibre of my being against this bull? Yes I bleeping am.

 

[rubysdeadfly]

He’s a fella who has had his face carved up, not a woman! The rooster and balls are very much still in tact…

to quote derry girls "He's a fella, an effeminate fella but a fella all the same"

 

[mozzarellagirl]

I understand what you're saying and I actually went through my post changing 'he' and 'his' not knowing what to do it's such a delicate, touchy subject. If I'd have left it, no doubt someone else would have jumped on me. I didn't know what to do but I certainly didn't set out to rattle anyone's cage.

You're asking people to try and understand and comprehend something that, unless we've experienced ourselves, we simply never will. I've never had a psychotic episode so I can't fully comprehend how that feels. I've never wanted to hunt and kill an animal so cannot wrap my head around why people do that.

Further, I don't feel offended nor threatened by trans people. I've not spent enough time researching it to really form an opinion or to know what I'm talking about. I do however understand why some women don't like it.

What I am offended by, however, is you being rude to me. Suggesting I tell women to 'go duck themselves'. I assume you're a woman? Your comment alone goes against women's solidarity. Surely this is what Dylan threatens? Please don't be nasty to me again. There was no reason to jump on me in that manner.

How ironic you feel I'm being rude to you. How utterly offensive it is to come into a thread of women discussing their complete and utter discomfort with a misogynistic man calling himself a woman (and absolutely reaping rewards from it) and use She/Her to reference him? THAT is rude.

Have you actually read this thread? No one would have jumped on you for using him/him.


I don't need to experience being 'psychotic' as you refer to this (or being a misogynist) to understand "what he's experiencing " I'm a woman. In a world made for men. I can see what he's doing because it directly impacts me and every other woman - even if she doesn't realise it.

Don't get it twisted - I'm not offended by trans people. I'm offended by MEN who parody women, dress up as little girls (!) for less than a year and encroach on women's rights and spaces with a sinister grin on his face. He knows exactly what he is doing.

You've literally just said you don't know what you're talking about! Maybe you SHOULD do your research before you come into a space complaining about a user being rude to you (barely) when MULTIPLE women are safely speaking about their discomfort and anger towards a man / a male-centred movement that you are essentially validating.

Don't try and spin the old "that's not female solidarity" onto me because when I made my comment I had women's biology and women's rights in mind. Female solidarity is NOT kissing each others arses and never calling each other out. I can dislike you and still fight for your humanity with all I have. When you use she/her pronouns (pronouns that are for the female sex) to a man like Dylan, you are essentially giving him a pat on the back - so yeah you might as well tell us all to go duck ourselves. I stand by it.

Have some awareness of the women in this thread. Women who are constantly told to shut up and put up with men like this quite literally changing the directory of women's rights (and it IS that deep) and this is a place where we can say otherwise - without getting grape or death threats! It's not "just" pronouns. They never have been. Not when the men you are using them for, have a history like dylan's.

Apologies for butting in, but me, and many other women both in real life and on here are feeling tit scared and disenfranchised right now. The concept of 'women's solidarity' seems to have been hijacked by the 'be kind' and other such performative 'movements'. The word woman is now offensive. Women no longer have the right to their own free or safe spaces. We now have to accommodate men with penises who have decided they are women. Do I feel threatened and terrified? Yes. Am I going to fight with every fibre of my being against this bull? Yes I bleeping am.

THANK YOU

 

[Cocobaby09]

That’s the thing, I actually agree with pretty much all the GC stuff, I just don’t care when it comes to pronouns or names as to me it’s just words.
I don’t think you should feel forced to call him she/her (or anyone else) if you don’t want to either.

I don’t. I don’t even say trans woman, I call them trans identifying males, because that’s exactly what they are.

Apologies for butting in, but me, and many other women both in real life and on here are feeling tit scared and disenfranchised right now. The concept of 'women's solidarity' seems to have been hijacked by the 'be kind' and other such performative 'movements'. The word woman is now offensive. Women no longer have the right to their own free or safe spaces. We now have to accommodate men with penises who have decided they are women. Do I feel threatened and terrified? Yes. Am I going to fight with every fibre of my being against this bull? Yes I bleeping am.

Hard agree. I woke up this morning thinking did that really happen in Scotland yesterday? Yes, yes it bleeping did. I’ve already fired off angry emails to my SNP and Labour MSPs. I’m absolutely livid.

 

[Ekathrina]

I think he had a nice face. A nice man’s face, he was a good looking fella and had a good build too, before. Now he looks emaciated, like he has an eating disorder and is starving himself to try and look more dainty and ‘feminine’. The ongoing weight loss, the rapid onset of his ‘gender dysphoria’ and the erratic behaviours and mannerisms seem concerning to me in terms of mental stability but no one seems to care about such red flags these days. It’s all about affirming now, none of his ‘fans’ seem in the slightest bit concerned that he may end up regretting it.

 

[Scarlett O' Hara]

I know, I just think like if I call you he / him right now, does that make you a male (I’m assuming you’re a woman)? No of course not, you’re still female no matter what I call you, words can’t change biology, so who cares?

I do. Because the very fact of "misgendering" a person is grounds in some areas for police intervention. Moreover as a woman why would you call me he/him?

 

[Fledgling Psycho]

"Treat me like a woman and choke me", no this movement isn't a threat to women & children.

 

[HeyBabes]

Apologies for butting in, but me, and many other women both in real life and on here are feeling tit scared and disenfranchised right now. The concept of 'women's solidarity' seems to have been hijacked by the 'be kind' and other such performative 'movements'. The word woman is now offensive. Women no longer have the right to their own free or safe spaces. We now have to accommodate men with penises who have decided they are women. Do I feel threatened and terrified? Yes. Am I going to fight with every fibre of my being against this bull? Yes I bleeping am.

It hasn’t been discussed on this thread, it has on the Gender Discussion thread, but have you heard about the bill passed in Scotland yesterday? I live in Scotland and I’ll be honest, I’m feeling tit scared

 

[Cocobaby09]

It hasn’t been discussed on this thread, it has on the Gender Discussion thread, but have you heard about the bill passed in Scotland yesterday? I live in Scotland and I’ll be honest, I’m feeling tit scared

I feel the same, but I’m livid too. My hole MSP Bob Doris replied to me AFTER the bill was passed, and I emailed him 2 months ago. These trans identifying males are already emboldened, they’ll be much worse now.

 

[Winthropp Tuesday]

Think he’s been at the same flavour Pringles Jack Monroe eats…

 

[TooFarScone]

Holy tit I can't believe he got surgery.

 

[DoraMaar]

That’s the thing, I actually agree with pretty much all the GC stuff, I just don’t care when it comes to pronouns or names as to me it’s just words.
I don’t think you should feel forced to call him she/her (or anyone else) if you don’t want to either.

If it's just words then how about we compel people to say 'Inshallah' or 'God Bless' at the end of every sentence, even if they are atheists? Words matter, they are part of the indoctrination process - and, unfortunately, women are more susceptible to this because they have taken the 'be kind' mantra as a direct order.

 

[Vanelope]

Be kind

Why?

They aren’t kind. They are angry and dangerous misogynists. I don’t care to be kind to those who threaten the rights of my children.

If you mean be kind because they have a mental illness, they would deny that is the case.

Be kind because they are oppressed? They aren’t. It’s invented. They have the same or more rights than I do.

 

[Deeznutslol]

If it's just words then how about we compel people to say 'Inshallah' or 'God Bless' at the end of every sentence, even if they are atheists? Words matter, they are part of the indoctrination process - and, unfortunately, women are more susceptible to this because they have taken the 'be kind' mantra as a direct order.

How have you actually quoted my post where I literally said ‘I don’t think you should be forced to call him she/her if you don’t want to’ and started bleating on about compelling people to say stuff? Are you illiterate?

 

[Merpedy]

I’m sort of surprised that she’s been allowed to travel?? I always got the sense that you’d need to be on bed rest for a while

 

[DoraMaar]

How have you actually quoted my post where I literally said ‘I don’t think you should be forced to call him she/her if you don’t want to’ and started bleating on about compelling people to say stuff? Are you illiterate?

This is what I responded to in your post - "to me it’s just words"

 

[Deeznutslol]

This is what I responded to in your post - "to me it’s just words"

Ok, so you’ve completely taken out of context what I was saying then. I said that no one should feel forced to say anything they don’t want to, so why respond going ‘oh so how about we compel people to say inshallah at the end of every sentence’?
You’re essentially responding to my post and attempting to get me to defend a point which I am literally not making.

 

[gisellejoly]

I’m sort of surprised that she’s been allowed to travel?? I always got the sense that you’d need to be on bed rest for a while

It’s genuinely absurd to me that anyone, especially on this thread can refer to this absolute weirdo piece of tit p as “she”. Female socialisation really does a number on some women I guess. I can’t understand catering to a delusional man’s wishes, especially on an anonymous gossip forum that he’s never even going to read.

Anyway, I’m not surprised he’s decided to travel. Surgeries like the one Dylan just got are considered “no big deal” a lot of the time on trans forums, probably so as not to discourage others from going down the same route.
Doctors who operate on trans identified people are known for kicking them out of hospital and into hotels mere hours after their surgeries leaving them to fend for themselves, even after more serious procedures like penile inversion (happened to jazz Jennings). It probably contributes to the high complication rates trans surgeries have.

 

[DoraMaar]

Ok, so you’ve completely taken out of context what I was saying then. I said that no one should feel forced to say anything they don’t want to, so why respond going ‘oh so how about we compel people to say inshallah at the end of every sentence’?
You’re essentially responding to my post and attempting to get me to defend a point which I am literally not making.

Nothing personal - I was commenting on the importance of language - in everyday life, in law, in the media - once something becomes a norm then the indoctrination is complete - 'her pen', 'sex change; 'female rapist', 'born in the wrong body', middle-aged men calling themselves 'girls' - there is no end to this.

 

[Deeznutslol]

Nothing personal - I was commenting on the importance of language - in everyday life, in law, in the media - once something becomes a norm then the indoctrination is complete - 'her pen', 'sex change; 'female rapist', 'born in the wrong body', middle-aged men calling themselves 'girls' - there is no end to this.

I know, and I appreciate that argument which is why I don’t think that anyone should be forced to use this type of language, and I strongly believe that it should never be punishable by law to ‘misgender’ someone.