I did read it one go, yes. I tend to do that though with this category of fiction about millennial women dating!
What was the WTF moment? I don’t want to write spoilers, am trying to guess but I’m thinking it could be a couple of different parts?
I did read it one go, yes. I tend to do that though with this category of fiction about millennial women dating!It looks to be in Waterstone's and Amazon's bestseller lists, but I don't know how to get an aggregated view of all the book charts, is it possible?
Did you read it in one go @Lanavalentine? I found myself really enjoying the first half probably more so than the second. It just felt a bit 'meh' by the end, and there was also a bit of a WTF moment which I found quite weird
the downstairs neighbour!What was the WTF moment? I don’t want to write spoilers, am trying to guess but I’m thinking it could be a couple of different parts?
That was just so jarring to the whole story, did they make her put it in there? Felt so out of the blue!the downstairs neighbour!
it did, didn’t it? I had to go back and re-read the first sentence of that... sequence of events to make sure I hadn’t misread itThat was just so jarring to the whole story, did they make her put it in there? Felt so out of the blue!
Yeah, I think it’s par for the course for people like Pandora though. They all think they’re original but open any issue of House & Garden and all their homes look exactly the same.Is it just me that finds Pandora’s decor tastes a bit...much? Swear I got a headache looking at that pic of her daughters room.
Yeah, I think it’s par for the course for people like Pandora though. They all think they’re original but open any issue of House & Garden and all their homes look exactly the same.
Yeah i thought it was horrible! It looks like the before pic rather than the after!You took the words right outta my mouth.
That wallpaper reminds me of some late 80’s/early 90’s wallpaper that was on my brothers bedroom wall when we moved into a house when I was younger. I have no idea why but I was strangely fascinated by how awful it was.
It’s er, intense. Also love how she highlights that the table was £20 off eBay... she decorated the nursery with Christian Lacroix wallpaperIs it just me that finds Pandora’s decor tastes a bit...much? Swear I got a headache looking at that pic of her daughters room.
I agree! And I don't think this is particularly a particularly new discussion either, other than Chrissy Teigen's strikingly raw photos. Plenty of other celebrities have spoken about baby loss and difficult pregnancies.was anyone else as unimpressed by Pandora’s article in the Evening Standard as I was? I think this is a really important topic and I was disappointed to see such a brief, aimless article that kind of skims over the issue without addressing the root of the backlash; in my opinion, the obvious driver is misogyny.
I HATE this focus of a "natural" childbirth, there is no other medical procedure in which people would brag about not using painkillers, it is so bizarreI agree! And I don't think this is particularly a particularly new discussion either, other than Chrissy Teigen's strikingly raw photos. Plenty of other celebrities have spoken about baby loss and difficult pregnancies.
This reminds me of a discussion on the podcast a few weeks ago. They were talking about some celebrity who had said she was "proud" of the fact she'd given birth "naturally", and how this might affect other women. I thought that Dolly was far more sensitive and thoughtful in the discussion - she recognised that "pride" might not be the right word to use, given that childbirth is not something that most women have any control over. I certainly couldn't have chosen to have a "natural" birth - I needed an emergency C-section - so does that mean I'm a "failure"? Obviously not, but framing natural birth as something to be "proud" of risks this connotation.
Pandora didn't seem to get this, at least not as much as Dolly. I thought that was striking, given that Pandora is the one with children.
Also: "I've found myself recently grateful" - terrible wording! And what is going on with that first paragraph: word salad!
It’s so bizarre! Just another way that women are pitted against each other and some women are made to feel inferiorI HATE this focus of a "natural" childbirth, there is no other medical procedure in which people would brag about not using painkillers, it is so bizarre
exactly! I have friends who are doctors who bragged about giving birth without an epidural, I just will never understand this!It’s so bizarre! Just another way that women are pitted against each other and some women are made to feel inferior
Plus having the 'ideal' birth does not mean by default you will be the perfect parent. It has no meaning other than how your child came into the world and nothing else. Somehow we've managed to create a society where what happens over those few hours can cloud years of a woman's actual mothering because they feel they failed before the baby even arrived... I shall stop now or I will rant.exactly! I have friends who are doctors who bragged about giving birth without an epidural, I just will never understand this!
I went down an Internet deep-dive trying to find out who the Guru was after reading it. I would love to know! I suspect she changed a lot of names and jobs to disguise them all.I am, having never read it before, reading Everything I Know About Love. While I think all of the really interesting things are Farly's stories more than Dolly's, I can't help myself wondering who the Guru is? I had a Google but nothing came up easily. Does anyone know?
Yes I am sure she's disguised them well, although I do remember the day her ex got married to the actress she tweeted about it and I read the story on the sidebar of shame. Cannot remember for the life of me who the man and the actress were but at the time I remember thinking it wasn't as interesting as it sounded as the actress wasn't hugely famous (although if my own ex had married someone that sounds instantly glamorous in the way 'Hollywood actress' does, that's how I'd be saying it too)I went down an Internet deep-dive trying to find out who the Guru was after reading it. I would love to know! I suspect she changed a lot of names and jobs to disguise them all.
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