theleagueofgentlemen
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Oh I absolutely agree! The mans a total bell end. Has he got a thread on here?
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butterfliesandhurricanes
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yeah I totally love Donna! i think Ten and Donna is the best pairing. I don’t particularly enjoy the doctor romance arcs. Rose and then Martha’s unrequited love. I much prefer the friendship companions.Cannot waitTennant and Tate work so brilliantly together because they're mates! That and Donna is just pure kick-ass and I love her!!! (plus her style is more mine than rose/Martha/Amy because I'm old!)
theleagueofgentlemen
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Ooooh. High five.
Tidy mun!!!
Crazy German woman sat at the end of my street the entire time they were filming there, blogging everything on her blackberry. The crew were bringing her food and everything.
It was the first time I'd ever seen that level of extreme fandom, because it struck me as quite sinister.
Apple In My Pie
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I\m really excited! I don’t know Ncuti but I think he seems a great fit for the role.
Reverend
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Interesting notes on twitter.
That is not 10th Doctors Tardis, it's the 13th.
The Doctor is wearing very dark clothes compared to what he wore in 2006-2010
More cast for the 60th due to be unveiled soon (Matt Smith? Billie Piper? Paul McGann? (Please bring McGann back RTD!).
Rockin' Robin
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I had to wade through a lot of threads to find this one.
I am old enough to remember Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker as The Doctor. Although I wasn't an avid viewer of the show, I still enjoyed it from time to time. I never saw any of the episodes with Sylvester McCoy as the Doctor. Then it was cancelled.
I was really pleased when they rebooted the series back in 2005, Christopher Eccleston was an excellent Doctor. Russel Davies did a brilliant job, of bringing the Doctor to a modern audience. Brilliant stories, well acted with memorable characters, it was a recipe for success. It is a pity that Christopher Eccleston only stayed for one series. But David Tennant was a fantastic replacement.
Matt Smith was an interesting choice to play the Doctor, his first two series were good. But somewhere along the way, the rot was setting in. I didn't really take to Peter Capaldi as the Doctor, really good actor though.
I am a little old school where the Doctor is concerened, he should be played by a man. So when Jodie W was announced as the new Doctor, I inwardly groaned. As it turned out she was alright, it is just a pity that the last two series stank, mostly down to the dreadful writing. I quite like the other actress who plays the Doctor, she has the gravitas for the role. It is a pity she was so underused.
So now we have come full circle, Doctor Who has become unwatchable because of the preaching and undermining of the history of the show. It might be on the brink of being cancelled again. What a way to treat a much loved character.
I am old enough to remember Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker as The Doctor. Although I wasn't an avid viewer of the show, I still enjoyed it from time to time. I never saw any of the episodes with Sylvester McCoy as the Doctor. Then it was cancelled.
I was really pleased when they rebooted the series back in 2005, Christopher Eccleston was an excellent Doctor. Russel Davies did a brilliant job, of bringing the Doctor to a modern audience. Brilliant stories, well acted with memorable characters, it was a recipe for success. It is a pity that Christopher Eccleston only stayed for one series. But David Tennant was a fantastic replacement.
Matt Smith was an interesting choice to play the Doctor, his first two series were good. But somewhere along the way, the rot was setting in. I didn't really take to Peter Capaldi as the Doctor, really good actor though.
I am a little old school where the Doctor is concerened, he should be played by a man. So when Jodie W was announced as the new Doctor, I inwardly groaned. As it turned out she was alright, it is just a pity that the last two series stank, mostly down to the dreadful writing. I quite like the other actress who plays the Doctor, she has the gravitas for the role. It is a pity she was so underused.
So now we have come full circle, Doctor Who has become unwatchable because of the preaching and undermining of the history of the show. It might be on the brink of being cancelled again. What a way to treat a much loved character.
Interesting... we are the same age but have very different perspectives! I did love 9, and will always have a soft spot for him as my first doctor. “If you’re an alien why do you sound like you’re from the north?” “Lots of planets have a north.” 
As with 10 to 11 I was initially very unhappy about eccelston’s regeneration. I didn’t like DT at all at first ... that changed quickly tho, by the end of ‘the Christmas invasion’ pretty much. (“Don’t you think she looks tired?” Genius !)
I agree that Moffat went too far with trying to be clever and turned things into a confusing mess by the end of his tenure. Episodes like ‘blink’ and ‘the girl in the firelplace’ were so brilliant but I think fuelled his ego that by the time he took over he was obsessed with doing things that way - to summarise that way in four made up words: “wibbly wobbly timey wimey”
That said there were some great episodes. Series 5’s entire arc and finale - yes it was complicated but still enjoyable at that point. All the stuff with the pandorica and stone henge. I also loved the silence and the episodes in America I thought they were brilliant, and terrifying.
I even enjoyed the melody pond / river song twist. By then I was in my early 20’s and not keeping up with all the fan theories etc so genuinely didn’t see it coming!
It kind of lost its way by ‘the angels take Manhattan’ - I don’t think the angels should ever have returned at all, just wasn’t ever necessary and too much of a good thing.
11’s last episode was pretty disappointing. I don’t remember that much, just that he had a long indulgent Moffat speech, and it was a let down.
I never got into peter capaldi. And I tried, on the basis I hadn’t liked either of the past two at first. Lots of people say he was let down by writing, which is probably true. But tbh I also think he just didn’t have the charisma and spark to be the doctor, something was missing. I know he’s a lifelong fan and a lovely bloke. it’s a shame. But that’s how I felt. I dipped in and out during those years.
When Jodie Whittaker was announced my interest was peaked of course. The backlash online was so pathetic I really wanted it to be good. But what I saw of her first series (lost track of numbers) was just terrible. The writing seemed to take a back seat to the ‘moralising’ - and don’t get me wrong im not one of those keyboard warriors hating any hint of equality. Far from it. But I felt this just fuelled their arguments because it was so weak.( I watched 2 or 3 episodes)
I did still dutifully return for the new years special, because the James Bond thing looked good, plus Stephen fry ! And actually, I loved it. Such an improvement.
I haven’t watched any more of the series tho, not yet. I did see something about a black female doctor on an alternate timeline?
I’m sure certain corners of the internet went into meltdown but I’d need to watch it to see if it worked. Maybe I’ll start the new series now actually....
As with 10 to 11 I was initially very unhappy about eccelston’s regeneration. I didn’t like DT at all at first ... that changed quickly tho, by the end of ‘the Christmas invasion’ pretty much. (“Don’t you think she looks tired?” Genius !)
I agree that Moffat went too far with trying to be clever and turned things into a confusing mess by the end of his tenure. Episodes like ‘blink’ and ‘the girl in the firelplace’ were so brilliant but I think fuelled his ego that by the time he took over he was obsessed with doing things that way - to summarise that way in four made up words: “wibbly wobbly timey wimey”
That said there were some great episodes. Series 5’s entire arc and finale - yes it was complicated but still enjoyable at that point. All the stuff with the pandorica and stone henge. I also loved the silence and the episodes in America I thought they were brilliant, and terrifying.
I even enjoyed the melody pond / river song twist. By then I was in my early 20’s and not keeping up with all the fan theories etc so genuinely didn’t see it coming!
It kind of lost its way by ‘the angels take Manhattan’ - I don’t think the angels should ever have returned at all, just wasn’t ever necessary and too much of a good thing.
11’s last episode was pretty disappointing. I don’t remember that much, just that he had a long indulgent Moffat speech, and it was a let down.
I never got into peter capaldi. And I tried, on the basis I hadn’t liked either of the past two at first. Lots of people say he was let down by writing, which is probably true. But tbh I also think he just didn’t have the charisma and spark to be the doctor, something was missing. I know he’s a lifelong fan and a lovely bloke. it’s a shame. But that’s how I felt. I dipped in and out during those years.
When Jodie Whittaker was announced my interest was peaked of course. The backlash online was so pathetic I really wanted it to be good. But what I saw of her first series (lost track of numbers) was just terrible. The writing seemed to take a back seat to the ‘moralising’ - and don’t get me wrong im not one of those keyboard warriors hating any hint of equality. Far from it. But I felt this just fuelled their arguments because it was so weak.( I watched 2 or 3 episodes)
I did still dutifully return for the new years special, because the James Bond thing looked good, plus Stephen fry ! And actually, I loved it. Such an improvement.
I haven’t watched any more of the series tho, not yet. I did see something about a black female doctor on an alternate timeline?
I’m sure certain corners of the internet went into meltdown but I’d need to watch it to see if it worked. Maybe I’ll start the new series now actually....
thinkofacoolname
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I’m so happy that Ncuti is going to be the new Doctor, he’s brilliant in Sex Education and just has a warmth about him. I gave up midway through Capaldi’s turn and tried to give Jodie’s Doctor a go, but couldn’t get into her portrayal plus thought the storylines were horrendous and convoluted.
Excited again now though, I think he’ll be great and just hope the writing doesn’t let him down like Capaldi!
Excited again now though, I think he’ll be great and just hope the writing doesn’t let him down like Capaldi!
supertickedoff
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Was it just me, or did anyone else pick up on the nods to Jurassic Park?!?
Oh I was not a fan of torchwood at all... it was at the height of doctor who mania and the bbc would commission anything with a vague connection and RTD as exec producer...he’s mentioned himself how he had about 6 shows on the go at one time, all of which he had to personally sign off on...
Anyway torchwood felt like the supporting cast of an average doctor who episode were given their own show (so lots of dodgy acting) but then sex and swearing was stuck on top. It was very contrived and cringey. And it was frustrating because ‘doctor who for grown ups’ isn’t a bad idea in theory - but the best episodes of doctor who are down to the strong writing. A well written spin off with darker themes and some adult elements when relevant would have been far more satisfying.
THAT SAID they did one amazing long running story , was that s3? Hold on going to look it up...yes s.3 the mini series ‘miracle day.’ As above poster said, a change of tone which worked for me. This had the strong writing I wanted all along. I don’t remember the details but I do remember being pleasantly surprised and eagerly awaiting each new episode. I’m going to re watch it on iplayer soon to see if I feel the same way ten years later.
And series 4... well it seems at least we agree on one thing @hrh89 ... I recall it being some of the worst tv I’d ever seen... to the point of humour ... and back again to basically unwatchable. Approach with caution!
Anyway torchwood felt like the supporting cast of an average doctor who episode were given their own show (so lots of dodgy acting) but then sex and swearing was stuck on top. It was very contrived and cringey. And it was frustrating because ‘doctor who for grown ups’ isn’t a bad idea in theory - but the best episodes of doctor who are down to the strong writing. A well written spin off with darker themes and some adult elements when relevant would have been far more satisfying.
THAT SAID they did one amazing long running story , was that s3? Hold on going to look it up...yes s.3 the mini series ‘miracle day.’ As above poster said, a change of tone which worked for me. This had the strong writing I wanted all along. I don’t remember the details but I do remember being pleasantly surprised and eagerly awaiting each new episode. I’m going to re watch it on iplayer soon to see if I feel the same way ten years later.
And series 4... well it seems at least we agree on one thing @hrh89 ... I recall it being some of the worst tv I’d ever seen... to the point of humour ... and back again to basically unwatchable. Approach with caution!
Rockin' Robin
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Its good news the RTD is returning, just so long as he removes all the elements that made it unwatchable. It is disheartening to hear that he admires Chris Chibnall, the man that ruined the show.