COVID-19 vaccine #16 & general vaccine conversation

[Freedomofspeech89]

We must never Forgive or Forget the War against the Unvaccinated

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Yes most people are acting like it never happened but some things are just too big to forget and move on.

Now I look back at what we went through I feel extremely proud of myself for not giving in and getting something that I didn't want injected into my body. We endured so much over that year. We were called vaccine refuseniks, selfish, anti vaxxers and lots more, so for anyone who stood up for what they believed in and said no to something they didn't want I commend you. I believe it takes a very strong person to do that.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

I don’t feel like I was manipulated into believing anything or even getting the vaccine. I don’t regret my choice. I guess there will be people who feel similarly but there will also be people who don’t.

With all due respect, we all know you have not changed your mind and still believe everything you were told But many many others have. Even my stubborn family who gave me shit while pointing and laughing at my stance have since moved on, none of them has taken the boosters.

IMO Anyone still fully believing they were not lied to or manipulated in any way must be related to a certain large bird.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

I disagree with the government on a lot of things, but when it came to the vaccine program I do believe they did it with the interests of the population at the front and centre. They didn't make all the right decisions but covid was new and some decisions were hastily made.

Putting people with covid in care homes while stopping those people in care homes from having visitors or going out in case they got covid.

Making people wear (useless) masks and obey SD while they themselves didn't when not in front of a camera, including our lovely queen.

Going out as and when they please twisting the rules to suit while keeping us locked up.

Making people have vaccines they didn't need or they would lose their jobs. still making people have vaccines even though it was proved not to be working as they thought..

That brings me to the "we don't think they were tested enough" V "they were fully tested" arguments. I remember you and Pre saying testing was full and conclusive ( not in those exact words) and the vaccines did and do what they were supposed to.... yet now?

 

[Purrrrrrr]

It is a horrible place for many reasons. I don’t know why you think my issue is with how people use it and not about people breaking the rules. You seem to be coming up with your own conclusion as to what I think/have an issue with.

Never said it would be nice if all people were like me. There will always be a variety of opinions and discussions just like there is on here.

You want those who you feel spread misinformation not to be on SM and what they post should be removed.
The trouble with that though is you and I both have very different beliefs in what misinformation is.

I got banned from Twitter for talking about Hunter Biden's laptop as it was supposedly fake news, Alt news was showing 100% proof, and the main news was saying it was a lie. it was and is 100% the truth.
FB fact-checkers have been shown to not actually check any facts time and time again but still, people like you believe if someone has their post removed it's because it's turned out not to be true.


You and those like you are the dangerous ones because you would stop one side from having a voice.

 

[Piff paff puff]

Re the beibers possible vac injuries and others injuries. I 100%believe the vac is the cause. I could never believe any supposed official poll or stats so I'd have to go along with personal experiences of people we know who had the vac.
I just can't believe that 2 young healthy people who never had health issues before are now like that after having the vac. It's no coincidence

 

[Emmelina Ball]

Now I look back at what we went through I feel extremely proud of myself for not giving in and getting something that I didn't want injected into my body. We endured so much over that year. We were called vaccine refuseniks, selfish, anti vaxxers and lots more, so for anyone who stood up for what they believed in and said no to something they didn't want I commend you. I believe it takes a very strong person to do that.

We should all be so proud of ourselves! Along with the media and covid obsessors, a lot of us lost friends and family along the way who didn’t respect our choice and instead of agreeing to disagree they turned their backs on us too. It was really tough going but we did it! And I would do it all again in a heartbeat I’m so confident in my choice that I made the right decision for me! Well done to every one of us.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

I didn't take offence to what your husband said. I replied to the post you made before the one where you mentioned your husband.

It was the head in sand bit I was more referring to and that was aimed at people like me -- i.e. those who don't regret their decision.

Maybe if you could stop taking things personally and actually read what was said then we might get somewhere

My post was aimed at those who truly believe the media and governments didn't manipulate and lie about the situation.

" Anyone still fully believing they were not lied to or manipulated in any way must be related to a certain large bird"


If you truly believe we were told the truth at all times and the unvaccinated were indeed killing granny while the vaccinated were keeping them safe Then sorry I do think you are beyond actual help

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

They berate us for what they themselves do


I believe its clear at this point we are being trolled or baited. Same things over and over thus turning each discussion into the "blank and blanker" show until everyone forgets what the discussion was.

Yesterday I was clearly talking about the very first thread where people were discussing not getting the vaccine and how awful so many of the replies were back then. So I wondered if any of those who were nasty had changed their minds and realised how they were manipulated. Q the same people once again telling us they have no regrets. WE KNOW you tell us every day. let the people at the back speak, but as always the actual discussion gets buried under a ton of absolute crap so the people at the back don't even see it.

Those posters aren't even worth responding to at this point. It's clear as day these vaccines are causing serious injuries (some of us have experienced this first hand), so to argue that they are safe is just insulting our intelligence now.

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

Thank you for posting this.. love his voice so much. You reminded me how much.

I don't know how you all have the energy to keep going with all this. If there is another "pandemic" and the same people fall for it I will have no sympathy this time. I won't do anything this time, not one thing to make anyone else feel better or safer. The emperor is, and always was buck arse naked.

Yeah completely agree. The absolute misery of the lockdown and the insane fear peddled daily. From "killing your granny" to "knocking on vaccine refuseniks doors". I will NOT go through it again and I will not humour anyone who expects me to sacrifice my children's childhood and happiness just so they can feel "safe".

 

[StrawberryCream]

Mysterious sudden death syndrome

There have been 4 in my small town in the last 6 months, all ‘died suddenly’ and one was only 19! It’s gotten everyone talking and so many people I have spoken to are all saying the same thing- vaccines.

Also, I was shopping in Tesco the other day and they now do a tannoy message about heart attacks and how they have trained staff to deal with it if someone collapses or needs medical attention while shopping in store. The whole thing is insane. You have to laugh at the ones who still refuse to see it too. Absolute fools!

 

[Emmelina Ball]

You have the patience of a saint!

I think you'll find on these threads there's very much been the attitude of 'I'm alright Jack' when it comes to the jabs. As in 'I've had them all and I'm still alive teehee' / 'Wonder when I'll keel over teehee' / 'Everyone I know who's had them has been fine so the reactions must be rare and therefore either not true or of no concern to me'

Pretty grotesque.

It’s so sad how ignorant people can be about the catastrophic consequences of these vaccines, and of lockdowns too. It really saddens me to see people day and daily justifying the vaccines and lockdowns and making out they’ve never caused anyone any harm. Children have lost mothers and fathers, mothers and fathers have lost children it’s just heart wrenching isn’t it. How anyone can trust the government after this entire pandemic is beyond me

My brother in law took a seizure while driving his work van 2 days after his second jab, thank god his colleague was in the car and was able to pull the handbrake and no one else was hurt. He’s now going through lots of scans and tests to work out what’s going on. He never had any previous neurological problems and he’s in his 40s. Now he’s no driving license because he’s not medically fit to drive! I guess you could call that long covid vaccine injury because that’s long term consequences alright.

 

[Emmelina Ball]

Can't see how anyone who thought the unvaccinated were killing old people and were selfish, not only still believe they were unmanipulated, but haven't changed their minds in any way.

My husband was just saying yesterday how they must either be sticking at it because they’re so stubborn and don’t want to admit they were fooled or they’re totally delusional! I mean surely seeing all the big wigs paying to have a vaccine record so they wouldn’t have to actually have the vaccine should make even the biggest believers consider what they’ve been fed! If the people at the top of the chain don’t trust the vaccine why do they expect other people to.. hmmm money talks

 

[xyzcba]

I've been very interested to find out in the aftermath as the jab has come up in conversation, just how many people we know who didn't have it. We own a gym and it turns out a lot of our members didn't have it. These are fit, strong, healthy people. I might also suggest given the sport we specialise in, they are determined and mentally strong too.

I would make the same decision again in a heartbeat. I remember at the time being astounded how many people were queueing up for it, sharing their vax cards like a badge of honour, changing their profile pics to I've Been Vaxxed! I thought I was in an episode of The Truman Show.

It honestly is insanity the things that occured. "HANDS - FACE - SPACE" / Oh but actually "Eat Out to Help Out" / Lockdown Tiers; which meant you could drive into the next county in order to sit down with a drink, but only if you ordered a scotch egg ..... and on and on.

Honestly! My husband and I said in years to come school children will be taught about the pandemic, and learn in hindsight all the errors that millions and millions went along with, without asking questions.

And I'm not here gloating. All of my family have had their jabs. I'm more frustrated that it's now all being brushed under the carpet, so most will never know, and will continue on with their stance on us selfish "anti-vaxxers" (who are actually probably mostly anti-covid jab / anti-mandatory jabs).

 

[gisellejoly]

No it isn’t. There are plenty of tests which shows the effects of Covid. Brain shrinking between 0.2 and 2% … is that psychosomatic?

plenty of respiratory illnesses have effects that last a few months after recovery from the infection. normal to feel fatigued after recovering from a nasty infection or virus. we dont call it 'long tonsilitis' or 'long glandular fever' do we? we just accept that it takes a while to recover. covid is no different, it's just the only one thats being researched. its only people who feel sorry for themselves who are claiming this long covid shite.

 

[Brigitjonesbuttcheek]

I recon covid and monkey pox is gonna mix and turn us all into fly monkeys so we can do the wicked witches bidding.

 

[StrawberryCream]

Surely people aren't going to thick enough to fall for it a second time??

Monkeypox has not whipped up the same hysteria as covid did in early 2020 so my guess is majority of people don’t care. They are done with pandemics, ‘trusting the science’ and vaccines, it’s really old news now. The MSM will keep fear mongering though, I just hope with Elon musk taking over Twitter and promising to wipe out bot accounts and stop mass censorship that Twitter won’t be the propaganda cesspit it was with covid.

 

[Brigitjonesbuttcheek]

I think it’s more about the misleading and inaccurate things that are tweeted/posted/shared on social media.

Social media is in my opinion no different to people chatting in an office or cafe. It's not a place to get accurate information from. It's a place to hear personal opinion, theories, hearsay and gossip.

So if people wanna talk shit on social media it should absolutely be their prerogative. The issue is people taking chat on social media as fact.

Like you woulndt try and censor Shelia at work because she told you over a tea break that the vax caused people's to cough up their own hip bones. You'd think Shelia's talking shit again, or maybe Google an actual news source to see if it's true. Social media should be no different. You can't censor people's opinions and theories even if they are baseless or nonsense.

 

[Poddular]

Now I look back at what we went through I feel extremely proud of myself for not giving in and getting something that I didn't want injected into my body. We endured so much over that year. We were called vaccine refuseniks, selfish, anti vaxxers and lots more, so for anyone who stood up for what they believed in and said no to something they didn't want I commend you. I believe it takes a very strong person to do that.

Yes the past is the past and we are supposed to be chattering about " costoflivingcrisis,Depp,Ukraine, love Island, whatever " but I don't think anyone should forget the tyranny, threats,restrictions, hate. Unbelievable to think that health/care workers were actually threatened jab vs job!! People who had worked all through lockdowns .
And people thought this was acceptable or put their fingers in their ears.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

I think there are many people who recognise now how they were deceived and manipulated. There are still some believers we see them everyday still muzzled. My GP doesn’t even wear a mask - speaks for itself really!

Can't see how anyone who thought the unvaccinated were killing old people and were selfish, not only still believe they were unmanipulated, but haven't changed their minds in any way.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

I think it's verging on trolling to be honest. Deliberately and continually misrepresenting someone's view to bait them into repeatedly defending themselves.

Oh well. I was on a short break from a Stranger Things marathon. Going back to it now.

Exactly what you were both doing to me yesterday..