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StrawberryCream

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I would never get vaccinated just so I can go to the pub or a gig. No offence but I see this as being really weak and pretty much falling at the first hurdle. Men gave up their lives to fight in wars and we can’t handle giving up the pub and cafes.
 
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880411

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The vaccinated are not the problem

The unvaccinated are not the problem

The government is the problem! They want people to turn and blame each other. It stops people looking at the real culprit, them!!

They already know if they are going to lockdown again, they already know when. It’s all set in stone.
The uncertainty they are creating is done on purpose
The media drip feeding information is all done on purpose
It’s designed to cause anxiety and confusion.


The amount of infighting and backbiting I’m seeing is saddening.
unvaccinated people being blamed for bringing the NHS to its knees! It’s been on its knees for decades
I remember A&E in 2017 myself and others waiting on beds in corridors as there was no room. It’s not fit for purpose, nothing to do with covid.
 
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StrawberryCream

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OK. Was a bit worried about my strong anti-antivaxx opinions. 😂

The majority of anti vaxx people are stupid or easily led.

The whole antivaxx movement started in the 90s from a frauulent medical report funded by a private donor, the results were cherry picked to fit the narrative of being able to get the results they wanted to have the mmr done individually, which the Dr had already had put in a patent to make millions if not billions by making the doses single. His medical license was revoked because of his complete lack of caring for the health or patients and lying. This has snowballed from idiots who get news from social media.

None of the side effects for the covid vaccine are proven. Just suspicions or unrelated coincidence.

I'm for covid passports. It doesn't force people to get the vaccination, it just stops people with covid socialising in an area that's easy to pass it on and or travel.

The reason the vax was done so quickly was due to the amount of money put into it and sharing of information. It was like a race to get the billions from the vax. It being done so quickly is not a risk to it being untested, it's used from the basis of other sars vaccinations.

And if the experts are wrong and we all become infirtile and die off I wouldn't want to be left on a planet with only anti vaxxers anyway.

Phew I'll end it there.
Covid passports are fascist, cause segregation and discriminate against people who don’t want to have a medical procedure, they are also pointless because the vaccinated can spread it amongst each other. Your attitude toward people that don’t want to get vaccinated is disgusting and dehumanising, it is not ok to say ‘I don’t want to be left on a planet with anti vaxxers anyway’ would you be happy if you read a comment saying I hope all the people that took the vax died because I don’t want to be on the same planet as them? You have a really disturbing mind.
 
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StrawberryCream

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She said she’s heard of 7 year okds having Covid and never waking up again even though they had Covid mild. She said people die in their sleep after having a mild dose of Covid because it can affect the heart, she said you’ve got more chance of heart side-effects from Covid no matter how old you are than you do with the vaccine. She said she would happily give it to her 4 year old if she could.
Firstly, this is not true, if seven year olds had caught covid and never woken up this would be worldwide, never-hear-the-end-of-it news, just look how they report on 1 death.
Secondly your friend said you need to stop reading scaremongering stories online when honestly she is the one scaremongering you with these false stories.
Lastly, she sounds insane. Happily vaccinate her 4 year old so she (an adult) can feel safer, worlds best mother right there. 😐
 
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Jaynefnw

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I don't understand how this can be the focus of those unvaccinated when there are hundreds of people dying every week in ICU across the country from not being vaccinated.
You are far more likely to die from covid complications than from the vaccination.

Having been triple vaccinated I'm fed up of our lives being on stand still and our NHS on its knees for those who choose not to get vaccinated....of which how many of you have a medical degree?
Why are we at the mercy of the few who won't accept hard, scientific facts. We are so lucky we are in a developed country with access to vaccinations
It's mind blowing that even nearly 2 years in people still want to believe conspiracy theories and Facebook 🥴🙄
I'm unvaccinated and I don't get my info from face book or here, I aslo don't believe the numbers of hundreds dying in hospitals unvaccinated from Covid each week, as we all know they have messed with the numbers, but even if that was true I still wouldn't get the vaccine and a stranger ranting on a forum wouldn't changed my mind either. I'm 46 years old, for as long as I can remember the NHS has been on its arse every year..... Mostly because of bad management and staffing issues.

I'm not making you put your life on hold that is the government and yourself by following their rules..... Which they don't even follow themselves. They told you 2 jabs and you get your freedom back.... Not unvaccinated fault they lied to you and now you had to have a 3rd jab and yearly ones it looks like from now on.

I had covid and was fine, according to my doctor I have better immunity and stronger anti bodies than if vaccinated, so will take her advice over Boris and his pals or strangers online.
 
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Mbouzer

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Went shopping today with my husband unmasked got a few dirty looks, the usual but no one challenging. We went into a local record/clothes shop and on the way out I noticed a flyer on the wall saying “against vaccine passports”, anyway that was it, me and my husband ended up speaking to the three blokes in there for ages about everything and they were all unvaccinated and felt exactly the same as us. It was so refreshing and hopeful and we both left there feeling so much more positive. Felt like l’d found my people. Theres so many like us who feel the same way but they don't want us to know that.
 
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Freedomofspeech89

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Tbh this thread is indeed very “anti-vax”, I’m definitely not, but I find it an interesting read
What the hell does "anti vaxx" mean? Someone who's had no vaccines ever? Someone who's had one jab? Someone who's had two jabs and not going for the third? What about the 4th jab in 6 months time? Does that make someone anti vaxx if they don't want that? Such a ridiculous derogatory term because really there is no intelligent argument so it's easier to name call. Anyway that's as much energy as I'm willing to waste on such a pathetic argument. Moving on.
 
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Cupcakemum

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OK. Was a bit worried about my strong anti-antivaxx opinions. 😂

The majority of anti vaxx people are stupid or easily led.

The whole antivaxx movement started in the 90s from a frauulent medical report funded by a private donor, the results were cherry picked to fit the narrative of being able to get the results they wanted to have the mmr done individually, which the Dr had already had put in a patent to make millions if not billions by making the doses single. His medical license was revoked because of his complete lack of caring for the health or patients and lying. This has snowballed from idiots who get news from social media.

None of the side effects for the covid vaccine are proven. Just suspicions or unrelated coincidence.

I'm for covid passports. It doesn't force people to get the vaccination, it just stops people with covid socialising in an area that's easy to pass it on and or travel.

The reason the vax was done so quickly was due to the amount of money put into it and sharing of information. It was like a race to get the billions from the vax. It being done so quickly is not a risk to it being untested, it's used from the basis of other sars vaccinations.

And if the experts are wrong and we all become infirtile and die off I wouldn't want to be left on a planet with only anti vaxxers anyway.

Phew I'll end it there.
I'm not even anti vaxx, but I wouldn't want to share a planet with people like you either.
I prefer kind, empathic, understanding people who respect people choices.
Each to their own hey 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
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jackolantern

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We should have said yes it is indeed an anti-vax thread and maybe we would have been spared that horrendous display :sick:
 
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Poddular

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I have two questions for the anti-covid vaxxers,

Why do you completely agree and believe that deaths after the vaccine is definitely vaccine related, yet don't believe deaths while having covid is covid related?

Secondly, I don't know the proper numbers, just more interested in the reasoning. Why do you mock people caring/vaccinating against a virus with a "0.01%"* death rate, yet won't take a vaccine that could have a "0.01%"* serious side effects/death rate?

* = to reiterate I don't know the numbers, I've just made them up for the sake of the question.

Also, just to include I understand those not having the vaccine as a result of personal experience or know somebody personally who had a bad reaction to the vaccine. I just see lots of these small numbers to argue against not having it, whereas the exact same could be counter-argued. Just curious 🙂
Newsflash.
People who choose not to be vaccinated are individuals, not a group of people who all have the same narrow views that you put on us.
Many of us choose not to take a needless medical procedure for many reasons and don't care about people who have the vaccines for what they consider to be health reasons.
ON A personal note it is distasteful to me millions of healthy people having 3 unnecessary, questionable medical procedures for reasons other than health. And this had lead to Governments thinking it's acceptable to segregate people based purely on a vaccine status and not for health reasons
 
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monga

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If your friends and family think more of a vaccine than they do you they're not worth bothering about imo
 
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Mbouzer

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Also how many appointments have been cancelled or postponed in order to vaccinate healthy people who are not at risk of dying from covid? This is okay? They are fine to suffer just so the government can keep jabbing everyone on Earth?
Just imagine how much man power and resources it takes to manufacture and administer this many vaccinations every six months, that could be pumped into other things that would actually benefit the population more. COVID is not a death sentence for the vast majority of people.
 
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bubbadabut

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Anyone else who isn't vaccinated been told by their family they can't come for Christmas cos they ain't had the jab and they need to protect themselves 🙄
So the family are vaccinated but you aren't? They obviously don't have much confidence in the vaccine they've had then.
 
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Poddular

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Can't put into words what I think of that evil creature Blair.
Gutted right now how this bullshit is affecting peoples hopes and fears now.
I feel so angry and done with it all I can't speak. All those hate pieces about people who choose not to have endless useless dodgy vaccines are now a seemingly normal and acceptable part of daily life. Never questioned or called out.
My lovely sister isolated where she is as the only one unvaccinated has yet again had a day of "persuasion". She feels ready to snap. Then she gets home to a text off family telling her the first meet up in two years on boxing Day is off due to "anxiety over the situation" !!!!
As she said due to believing scaremongering propaganda and letting the lying corrupt government rule your thoughts. She was so looking forward to it for many reasons. Who's to say how long any of us have left. Motorways scare me more than covid.
Then I've just had a text off my isolated brother who no one is able to visit because of travel restrictions "I'm done, no hope left"
Sorry to offload but do the media and government not realise or care what damage they are doing on a large scale.
Fuck their vaccine segregation and scaremongering campaign and control of our lives.
 
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StrawberryCream

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I don't understand how this can be the focus of those unvaccinated when there are hundreds of people dying every week in ICU across the country from not being vaccinated.
You are far more likely to die from covid complications than from the vaccination.

Having been triple vaccinated I'm fed up of our lives being on stand still and our NHS on its knees for those who choose not to get vaccinated....of which how many of you have a medical degree?
Why are we at the mercy of the few who won't accept hard, scientific facts. We are so lucky we are in a developed country with access to vaccinations
It's mind blowing that even nearly 2 years in people still want to believe conspiracy theories and Facebook 🥴🙄
You seriously believe the NHS is on its knees because of the unvaccinated and you’re fed up of having your life on hold 😂 awww boo hoo 🥺 Nice of you to deny all the people that have had terrible reactions to the vaccines though and trying to demean it as ‘conspiracy theory’. I’m sure they will appreciate your disgusting comment.
 
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bluecups

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As a unvaccinated person, I'm bamboozled as to the sheer egos of these celebs and the MPs and ex MPs who think just because they do little videos asking us or slagging us off for choosing not to get the vaccines, that they think I will (can only speak for myself) run to my nearest centre roll my sleeves up and get my 3 jabs.... Never going to happen.

Andrew lincoln could knock on my door bollock fucking naked and tell me I can ride him all night and I would still refuse.
I don't trust these vaccines, I believe they have harmed/damaged people and killed some.
I will not get them on the word of the government never trusted them before covid.... Definitely don't now.
I won't get them for the NHS, or to not kill granny(most my family are dead anyway) I'm sorry but I don't live my life for others and would never expect anyone to do that for me.
I would never tell anyone not to get the vaccines... It is imo a personal choice.
They can stop me from travelling /working or even lock me down I will never back down... I will however fight them every step of the way for my right to refuse any vaccine or medical procedure I choose not to have.
The scary thing is that I don't think all these videos are aimed at unjabbed people. Tony Bliar calling me an idiot isn't going to make me change my mind and he knows that. The videos are designed to encourage jabbed people to demonise, shame and harass the non-jabbed. These people are sowing division, it's sinister.
 
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judgejohndeed

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The government is the problem! They want people to turn and blame each other. It stops people looking at the real culprit, them!!

The amount of infighting and backbiting I’m seeing is saddening.
100% wholeheartedly agree with this. The vast majority of people are not going to die from getting covid whether jabbed or not, equally the majority who get jabbed won’t die from the jab either. Those are both facts. I’m sick of it all being a competition, people having to try and prove that what they’re doing is the right or most scientific thing, people wanting another ‘side’ to blame. I know so many people who are testing positive for covid and have no symptoms, they’re not even sick so who cares that they have covid? I also know many people who have not died from the vaccine. The hysteria around both and from both sides about the other is just absolutely insane at this point IMO. And a distraction from the real issue, which is that we’re going to get stuck in lockdown or have jabs forced on those who don’t want it, for a condition similar to a bad cold or flu. It’s absolutely batshit.
 
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cill2019

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If your friends and family think more of a vaccine than they do you they're not worth bothering about imo
I’ve literally just read a post on Jeremy Vines Twitter feed 🤮
A guy asked his friend his vaccine status (unvaccinated) and hasn’t allowed him in his house since as he’s only double vaccinated and won’t take the risk.

Reading that Twitter feed has just made me feel so 😔😔😔 I think if it wasn’t for this thread I’d feel incredibly lonely and like I was the only unvaccinated on the world.

#bekind is a distant memory and it feels like it’s a just a free for all now 😔
 
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Scoobysnacks

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To be honest, I am anti Vax. I'm anti this vaccine as it's not a vaccine in the traditional sense. So what? So come for me. "Antivax" is a lazy term used by lazy people to disregard someone as not being worthy enough to even consider their viewpoint, carelssly; especially as I always make an effort to consider someone's view point even if it differs to mine out of respect and namely as I like to behave like an adult.
 
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