Clementine Ford

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Seems like her dad is the only man allowed to have a differing opinion to her own without getting absolutely slammed 😂
 
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She has always said she had different political opinions to her Dad but obviously doesn’t want it to be well known who he is and where he works
 
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She has always said she had different political opinions to her Dad but obviously doesn’t want it to be well known who he is and where he works
Oh yea I don’t think it really matters but I guess that lady is trolling her. She’s clearly got very different opinions to him. My god I wouldn’t want to be compared to my father 😳😂
 
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I am confused by this new direction of hers. The botox and filler, the thirst-trap photos on her grid 🤢. It seems so off-brand
 
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I am confused by this new direction of hers. The botox and filler, the thirst-trap photos on her grid 🤢. It seems so off-brand
I thought that too but the procedures seem to be free #gifted #paidpromotion like every other influencer and it’s on brand for her latest book. Leave your husbands and be happy like meeeee (but she seems to still date men so 🤷🏻‍♀️)
 
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I mean, that photo is at least 10 years old. So it's not comparing apples to apples. She'd obviously look older.

I find Clem's promotion of cosmetic procedures problematic (and I find her 'brand' of feminism problematic in general). But I'm not going to begrudge someone to choose what they want to do with their face or body.

I'm not attacking you previous poster, but I'm curious why you think cosmetic procedures makes a woman "pathetic".
 
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As a woman with thin-ish lips (I’ve not gotten fillers because I just don’t feel the need to) it always baffles me when woman with lips that are way plumper and fuller than mine, go and get lip fillers to make them even bigger!
 
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As a woman with thin-ish lips (I’ve not gotten fillers because I just don’t feel the need to) it always baffles me when woman with lips that are way plumper and fuller than mine, go and get lip fillers to make them even bigger!
This! Or as someone with quite full lips who used to get routinely mocked in school (people would call me "Angelina" and do exaggerated pouts at me) for the size of my lips, it spins me out that 20 odd years later these same people are getting fillers in an attempt to look the same or bigger than what they teased me for having naturally!
 
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I thought that too but the procedures seem to be free #gifted #paidpromotion like every other influencer and it’s on brand for her latest book. Leave your husbands and be happy like meeeee (but she seems to still date men so 🤷🏻‍♀️)
Also, she’s never come across as particularly happy to me so I don’t understand how she’s some role model for single bliss.
 
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I mean, that photo is at least 10 years old. So it's not comparing apples to apples. She'd obviously look older.

I find Clem's promotion of cosmetic procedures problematic (and I find her 'brand' of feminism problematic in general). But I'm not going to begrudge someone to choose what they want to do with their face or body.

I'm not attacking you previous poster, but I'm curious why you think cosmetic procedures makes a woman "pathetic".
No that photo was to show her natural beauty before she had an eye lift and before she had her neck shaved down and lips pumped up and face filled with botox. Its pathetic because she is on her soap box and speaking down about women who choose marriage , lecturing women about patriarchy but she is paying for expensive treatments to upkeep with patriarchal beauty ideals. Her choices arent pathetic its her hypocrisy that is pathetic which has been discussed a lot in this channel.
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This! Or as someone with quite full lips who used to get routinely mocked in school (people would call me "Angelina" and do exaggerated pouts at me) for the size of my lips, it spins me out that 20 odd years later these same people are getting fillers in an attempt to look the same or bigger than what they teased me for having naturally!
Im Blak and have big lips and relate to this so much. I love mine and never thought about my lips much as a kid until I was teased for them in high school.
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I mean, that photo is at least 10 years old. So it's not comparing apples to apples. She'd obviously look older.

I find Clem's promotion of cosmetic procedures problematic (and I find her 'brand' of feminism problematic in general). But I'm not going to begrudge someone to choose what they want to do with their face or body.

I'm not attacking you previous poster, but I'm curious why you think cosmetic procedures makes a woman "pathetic".
you are right though.
 
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I also find the knee-jerk "because I like it" without any reflection on the broader context, the pressure women feel to have these treatments, kinda lame. I mean, she inserts herself into so many issues, why not explore this one more?
She kiiind of did ... although I don't know if you'd call this an 'exploration'.
 

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She kiiind of did ... although I don't know if you'd call this an 'exploration'.
It’s not an exploration. It’s:
1) I like it and want to do it
2) if you don’t like it, go away

I would be more interested if she actually delved into WHY she likes it. WHY she wants to look younger, fresher etc.
 
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Yes she definitely picks and chooses what she supports, and then it's either portrayed as right or wrong in the gospel according to Clementine.

Motherhood GOOD Marriage BAD Cosmetic Procedures EMPOWERING Hetero Relationships TOXIC etc etc etc
 
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I do find the freebie promotion of cosmetic / beauty treatments a little odd. However it’s nothing new as I can think of at least 4 Aussie women I’ve followed who championed online to their audience about Body Positivity who later had tummy tucks/lipo/large transfer to boobs/boob jobs.

I think the bigger picture is why are so many women conditioned by society to dislike their natural selves and want to change? Is it the beauty industry/media/advertising/men/other women or all of it. No one talks about the medical risks until something goes wrong.

I’m trying to teach my daughter to love herself but how can I do that if I get lip fillers and Boxox my own wrinkles (I don’t) I like makeup but I use it to enhance my features not change them. It’s complicated! 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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I do find the freebie promotion of cosmetic / beauty treatments a little odd. However it’s nothing new as I can think of at least 4 Aussie women I’ve followed who championed online to their audience about Body Positivity who later had tummy tucks/lipo/large transfer to boobs/boob jobs.

I think the bigger picture is why are so many women conditioned by society to dislike their natural selves and want to change? Is it the beauty industry/media/advertising/men/other women or all of it. No one talks about the medical risks until something goes wrong.

I’m trying to teach my daughter to love herself but how can I do that if I get lip fillers and Boxox my own wrinkles (I don’t) I like makeup but I use it to enhance my features not change them. It’s complicated! 🤷🏻‍♀️
It’s interesting, I suppose it’s the advance and accessibility plus excessive promotion of cosmetic tweaks.. I remember being in my late teens and early 20s and would sometimes be vaguely dissatisfied with XYZ on my face, however at that time, solutions weren’t readily accessible.. (nor were they promoted, and Instagram wasn’t yet much of a thing, this was still in the era of Mary Kate and Ashley and Nicole Ritchie all dying from anorexia on the front pages of magazines 🥴.) so I didn’t really fixate on it too much, and just accepted what I had and moved on with it (did also suffer from crippling eating disorder though.) BUT NOW.. one deep line on my face looks at me the wrong way, and I nip that baby in the butt next time I’m at the injectors for a Botox top up.
 
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It’s interesting, I suppose it’s the advance and accessibility plus excessive promotion of cosmetic tweaks.. I remember being in my late teens and early 20s and would sometimes be vaguely dissatisfied with XYZ on my face, however at that time, solutions weren’t readily accessible.. (nor were they promoted, and Instagram wasn’t yet much of a thing, this was still in the era of Mary Kate and Ashley and Nicole Ritchie all dying from anorexia on the front pages of magazines 🥴.) so I didn’t really fixate on it too much, and just accepted what I had and moved on with it (did also suffer from crippling eating disorder though.) BUT NOW.. one deep line on my face looks at me the wrong way, and I nip that baby in the butt next time I’m at the injectors for a Botox top up.
Yea the 20’s were wild with the Rachel Zoe look. Thin was very in!
 
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